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Old 09-01-2013, 04:34 PM   #1
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BMW 767i - The 16 Cylinder BMW That Almost Was...





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It's 1987, and Dr. Karlhienz Lange, Adolf Fischer and Hanns-Peter Weisbarth, the very germanic gentlemen who would also be responsible for the 8 series BMW, decide to make a production ready 16 cylinder version of the e32 7 series.

Lange instructed Fischer to explore the possibilities beyond the M70 engine. And it was from then that the Secret Seven project was born and BMW’s first V16 engine came into fruition.

Less than six months after Lange gave the go ahead on the project, Fischer had a complete (and production ready) 6.7 liter V16 engine on a dynamometer on Christmas Eve in 1987. Naturally the numbers on the V16 engine were nothing short of impressive boasting 408 bhp at 5200rpm and 461 ft lb of torque at 3900rpm, more than 100bhp and 100 ft lb torque than the 5.0 liter V12. The engine was run by two Bosch engine management systems, essentially treating it as two straight-eight cylinders.

The 16 cylinder BMW that almost was.... BMW 767i "Goldfish"Expand

Within the walls of BMW, the Secret Seven project was also known as the “Goldfish”. Reason being, the 7 Series sedan that the V16 engine was fitted into was a golden color so the project was christened the Goldfish.

The V16 was 12 inches longer than the V12 in the engine bay. Naturally, this caused many problems, such as the fact there was no room for cooling. So, being pragmatic germans, the cooling was relegated to the rear of the car!

The 16 cylinder BMW that almost was.... BMW 767i "Goldfish"Expand

The best part of the car? It came with a 6 speed manual transmission also used in the 8 series! And BMW's first airbag steering wheel, and by far its ugliest.

The 16 cylinder BMW that almost was.... BMW 767i "Goldfish"

In the prototype phase, the V16 was ready for full production and BMW did consider building a “Super 7″ of sorts but securing approval from the board was too far fetched and the V16 never saw a garage or driveway.

Sure, 400bhp is what a lot of cars get out of 6 cylinders today, and its 0-60 times of just under 6 seconds isn't neck snapping, but owning a 16 cylinder 7 series must have felt very nice to say.
The 16 cylinder BMW that almost was.... BMW 767i "Goldfish"
That rear is ugly as fawk, but damn... too bad this thing never made it into production.
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dem vents beneath the C-pillar are so awkwardly shaped
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There are sooooo many skunkworks bmw vehicles hidden away in various dealerships and basement bmw warehouses all across Europe. Some of the best known ones are the e34
M5 convertibles, or the x5 with the mclaren s70 v12 shoehorned up front.

I'm on my phone, so maybe someone else can google and post up some of the multiple blogs that document these one off bmw Frankenstein cars
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Scroll down to see cars like the e46 m3 touring, e36 m3ti, e30 touring "vanagon", the 8 series M etc etc etc.
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I would totally rock that M3 wagon. Hard.
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Yep, m3 wagon is pretty much the dreamiest of dream cars.
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Yep, m3 wagon is pretty much the dreamiest of dream cars.
I'd settle for one of these; So pricey though.

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great post!

p.s. there as an official e30 m3 pickup truck
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great post!

p.s. there as an official e30 m3 pickup truck
As is a E92 M3 pickup!



Some fan in England actually custom-built a M3 E91 wagon though! Conversion from a regular 318i Touring.

!!!!!..E91 M3 V8 DCT Touring/Wagon Full Conversion..!!!!!



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Old 09-02-2013, 09:16 AM   #11
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lol this started out as the v16 car that would and now its a free for all bmw thread!
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V16... imagine the wall of endless torque on that thing.
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I love all these black project M cars and one off skunk works. The E91 V10 M3 wagon was one of my favorite. There are other interesting ones like the V12 NA 700hp LeMans X5, M8 coupe, E60 V10 M5 CSL 25th anniversary edition. Here are some of the other interesting ones.

E30 M3 Pickup (with new E9x sibling)
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I would totally rock that M3 wagon. Hard.
totally, I drooled so hard when I saw the pic.
why, oh why, did BMW not even make a 4dr e46 M3?!
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Yep, m3 wagon is pretty much the dreamiest of dream cars.
I raise you the E39 M5 Touring:

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Mercs has AMG wagons... put it into production, BMW!
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They did build it. Top Gear did a comparison between the E60 M5 Touring and the E63 AMG wagon except the M5 was only available in Europe.
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I'm a 3 series fan myself though. I have no need for a wagon that big, however still amazing. I've driven a modded dinan supercharged 540i/6 touring though, so I imagine it was pretty similar to what the M5 touring would be like.
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