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Old 01-17-2006, 11:44 AM   #1326
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i might be wrong

but, the light source to shine the white seems to have set
correctly via custom white, or at least set on the right light source.

however in the bg, there are many diff light sources, you can't
possibly get them all corrected because each bulb has a
slight variation of colour temp.
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Old 01-17-2006, 11:43 PM   #1327
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i might be wrong

but, the light source to shine the white seems to have set
correctly via custom white, or at least set on the right light source.

however in the bg, there are many diff light sources, you can't
possibly get them all corrected because each bulb has a
slight variation of colour temp.
so is the only way to correct that through a double exposure or two exposures, not sure what the correct terminology is
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:32 AM   #1328
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dr. salar!

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Old 01-18-2006, 05:25 PM   #1329
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yes i would like to hear input as well on double exposures and how to do them and such
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:48 PM   #1330
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now i've got another question

this was also shot with custom WB with the above method, and i'm wondering... is it properly white balanced? the car looks right, but is the backdrop supposed to be tinted in a shade of blue like that?

A proper WB is exactly that, proper whites in your image.
However, some images get tricky; ie' the one above.

In the case that you have multiple color temps, depending on the composition you are going for, it can aid the overall presentation of the image. One rule of thumb that is often spoke of is attaining "depth" within your image. This visual depth can be either through space (DOF), colors (WB), time (Shutter), or a myriad other methods to display depth.
Your image above succeeds because it provides that visual depth due to multiple color tempertures.

However, if you wanted to display a picture exactly as your eye sees, then you will have to take multiple shots, each custom white-balanced for different light kelvins. You would do this by customizing the wb to each light source, and subsequently combining the layers into one (a good tutorial can be found here: http://www.webdesign.org/web/photosh...ures.5288.html).

In fact, for my paroxym shot, this is exactly what I did.



The two different WBs in this picture are to emphasize the warm building tones in contrast to the "cold" environment. This was acheived in the camera (WB Shift/BKt 0,0/BA+-3) and PS (layer masks).
And to answer your question from the other thread: the reflection was achieved through PS. The reflection already existed, but it was too faint, so I re-did it in PS.

What you do with the WB really depends on the look you are going for. I would say the WB in the picture above worked very well because of the contrast you were able to achieve. But this may work against you in other pics.

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Old 01-19-2006, 08:06 AM   #1334
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A proper WB is exactly that, proper whites in your image.
However, some images get tricky; ie' the one above.

In the case that you have multiple color temps, depending on the composition you are going for, it can aid the overall presentation of the image. One rule of thumb that is often spoke of is attaining "depth" within your image. This visual depth can be either through space (DOF), colors (WB), time (Shutter), or a myriad other methods to display depth.
Your image above succeeds because it provides that visual depth due to multiple color tempertures.

However, if you wanted to display a picture exactly as your eye sees, then you will have to take multiple shots, each custom white-balanced for different light kelvins. You would do this by customizing the wb to each light source, and subsequently combining the layers into one (a good tutorial can be found here: http://www.webdesign.org/web/photosh...ures.5288.html).

In fact, for my paroxym shot, this is exactly what I did.



The two different WBs in this picture are to emphasize the warm building tones in contrast to the "cold" environment. This was acheived in the camera (WB Shift/BKt 0,0/BA+-3) and PS (layer masks).
And to answer your question from the other thread: the reflection was achieved through PS. The reflection already existed, but it was too faint, so I re-did it in PS.

What you do with the WB really depends on the look you are going for. I would say the WB in the picture above worked very well because of the contrast you were able to achieve. But this may work against you in other pics.

G'luck,

Thanks Salar for pointing out that tutorial! It's helped me for a few of my shots!

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Old 01-20-2006, 04:56 AM   #1335
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i see u found it,
like the 2nd shot a lot, contrasting with the bg
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Old 01-20-2006, 11:20 AM   #1338
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Just thought I'd share 2 quick pics from 2 nights ago. Haven't really touched them up in PS yet.



Quick clip as well... couldn't help myself (Sorry bout the bad quality... camera was set on compact vid mode by accident . Just view 200% or something.)
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Old 01-20-2006, 02:41 PM   #1339
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synth: I actually saw you that night taking photos. THat or it was another white s2k. I knew those big puddles would work well. I've always wondered though, how does the driver get out when in the middle of the puddle?

Domani: thanks for the lead. There's a lot more potential in that general area too.

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Old 01-20-2006, 03:25 PM   #1340
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Yeah that was probably me there.

haha well.. I just set-up the camera and asked my friend to take the pic as I ducked down in the car. Not exactly the classiest way to take a picture but it works

Although I did soak my foot on the first attempt.... wasn't sure how deep it was at first heh
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Loving the reflection there synth. Nice pics!
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Unit03: ahahahahaha...Dr. Tran....so funny:

http://www.beyondgrandpa.com/drtran/main.html

Gotta love Spike & Mike's...(sorry, completely off-topic)
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Loving the reflection there synth. Nice pics!
Thanks man, but I just took a look at your site... looks like you could teach me a thing or two, or three, or four, or........
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Old 01-24-2006, 09:33 AM   #1344
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sigh.. the puddle is alot smaller yesterday night than it was when synth took the picture.. hahaha !!!
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some tips for the s2k shots..

1) bigger aperture to get the star like effects on the lights
2) rule of thirds. the car is dead center.
3) try and do some light painting on the car to brighten it up.
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some tips for the s2k shots..

1) bigger aperture to get the star like effects on the lights
2) rule of thirds. the car is dead center.
3) try and do some light painting on the car to brighten it up.
Thanks for the tips! Yeah I like the whole rule of thirds thing but the only hard part here was that I set up the camera and had to drive the car in the puddle... after that I was pretty much stuck in the car while my friend aligned the camera a bit.
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for the first pic, how do i us photoshop to actually leave the logo as is, but tone everything else?

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for the first pic, how do i us photoshop to actually leave the logo as is, but tone everything else?
few ways u can mask it
one way is

select the logo, and select inverse.
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