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Old 04-24-2009, 02:16 PM   #3951
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http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...s&n=Bubbleworm

This is currently my off spec set.

I got mostly naxx 25man gear a few heroics stuff for my main resto set.

How much is it worth?
Cant tell cause your not wearing your main spec gear lol

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How much do you think my two toons are worth?

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This is just my off-spec resto set. Main boomkin uses the staff off 10 man maly, t7.5 shoulders, chest, and gloves, with t7 helm. Legs are the wanton leggings from 25 maly, and the 10 man quest necklace off maly.

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Old 04-24-2009, 02:56 PM   #3952
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Cant tell cause your not wearing your main spec gear lol



$100-$150?



$150.
:S so little for mostly bis tanking gear and bis boomkin gear.
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:15 PM   #3953
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:S so little for mostly bis tanking gear and bis boomkin gear.
hows that bis?

missing shield off kt, 3 piece valorous (bis tier)
and the defense trinket!

my pally needs last laugh and helm off kt.
and hopefully the pants off sarth drops..
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Old 04-24-2009, 06:49 PM   #3954
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Umm.. I have the defense trinket... and tier is far from bis. Very few pally tanks use tier gear because the set bonus is shit along with the fact the stats aren't very good. My set is based on avoidance/threat generation, and any guild main tank that can't hold aggro with very geared dps/healers is a useless tank.

Helm of Vital Protection
1867 Armor
+68 Strength
+126 Stamina
Equip: Increases defense rating by 59
Equip: Increases your parry rating by 56
Equip: Increases your expertise rating by 36

T7.5 Helm
1867 Armor
+80 Strength
+127 Stamina
Equip: Increases defense rating by 66 (13.42 @ L80).
Equip: Increases your expertise rating by 35 (4.27 @ L80).
Equip: Increases the block value of your shield by 77.

Expertise diff negligible, def rating diff negligable. The biggest diff is block value and parry rating. Any tank can tell you parry rating > block value.
Compare the two and you'll find that my helm is much better than the t7.5 helm. That's the reason I used my helm token to buy a holy t7.5 helm instead of the tanking one.

Plus $50 for a boomkin with almost all bis gear except maybe 1-2 items?
http://www.themoonkinrepository.com/...e6c5a365780a1d

If you think that DK with mostly naxx10 gear is worth $100-150, then there's something wrong.

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Old 04-24-2009, 07:32 PM   #3955
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why is everyone selling their accounts? sheesh, when did this thread turn into an account worth appraisal thread..

with 3.1.0 in,

i'm glad that RMP are back on top ahahah
same with RP and RM in 2s
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Old 04-25-2009, 04:38 AM   #3957
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Umm.. I have the defense trinket... and tier is far from bis. Very few pally tanks use tier gear because the set bonus is shit along with the fact the stats aren't very good. My set is based on avoidance/threat generation, and any guild main tank that can't hold aggro with very geared dps/healers is a useless tank.

Helm of Vital Protection
1867 Armor
+68 Strength
+126 Stamina
Equip: Increases defense rating by 59
Equip: Increases your parry rating by 56
Equip: Increases your expertise rating by 36

T7.5 Helm
1867 Armor
+80 Strength
+127 Stamina
Equip: Increases defense rating by 66 (13.42 @ L80).
Equip: Increases your expertise rating by 35 (4.27 @ L80).
Equip: Increases the block value of your shield by 77.

Expertise diff negligible, def rating diff negligable. The biggest diff is block value and parry rating. Any tank can tell you parry rating > block value.
Compare the two and you'll find that my helm is much better than the t7.5 helm. That's the reason I used my helm token to buy a holy t7.5 helm instead of the tanking one.

Plus $50 for a boomkin with almost all bis gear except maybe 1-2 items?
http://www.themoonkinrepository.com/...e6c5a365780a1d

If you think that DK with mostly naxx10 gear is worth $100-150, then there's something wrong.
whoa, i never said that you should get 4 piece bonus.
but run with 2 or 3 pieces... and sorry, i meant should get rid of the defense trinket :P

err and parry isnt that great.. too much dr imo to consider it a viable source of avoidance..
at least block value gives threat and partial damage absorb
thats why str is probably 2nd best stat next to stam
str gives ap, block which equals to more threat.
which is also why any gem that involves parry is garbage...

damn, i logged out on my pally as holy =/
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Parry gives threat too because after a parry, the next melee swing is much faster. It's a much better stat for DKs, though but no one should ever gem parry.
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Pally tanks should be enchanting +20 str to their weapons, BTW.
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Cant tell cause your not wearing your main spec gear lol



$100-$150?



$150.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...s&n=Bubbleworm
My main spec with all my healing set on. So how much this is worth now?
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Sigh.. you guys need to realize there's no one way to build a tank. I've yet to find someone who has been able to pull aggro off me so that's why I haven't changed my mongoose enchant yet. Sure there's better enchants out there right now, but for me it's not necessary yet. And no, parry doesn't increase the speed of the next attack. Only dodge does.

And about that defense rating trinket, there's nothing much that is better than it in terms of defense rating. It gives me the flexibility to use less def rating in other sockets so I don't see how it is not good.
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man.. if ur mage is worth $225.. my mage is worth like $500+???

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by the looks of all your gears.. it looks like you haven't even cleared naxx 10.. otherwise you'd at least have 1 or 2 piece of naxx 10 gear or even tier gears? the only thing i see is a BOE naxx 10 item and it's not even meant for a mage.. and a word of advice.. you are no way geared for arcane arcane is haste>crit ur gears are the other way around :S
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Sigh.. you guys need to realize there's no one way to build a tank. I've yet to find someone who has been able to pull aggro off me so that's why I haven't changed my mongoose enchant yet. Sure there's better enchants out there right now, but for me it's not necessary yet. And no, parry doesn't increase the speed of the next attack. Only dodge does.

And about that defense rating trinket, there's nothing much that is better than it in terms of defense rating. It gives me the flexibility to use less def rating in other sockets so I don't see how it is not good.
Either the DPS you run with is bad that cant pull aggro off you or you are that pro and can generate a butt ton of threat.

With my pally I pull about 6k TPS on average. BiS warlocks for example pull aggro off me and need salvs...

and oh... 20 str to weapon or accuracy is the best enchants.
every other enchant for tanks are pretty bad imo.
the defense trinket needs to go... theres alot of better things to get instead + the use effect is crap as well.
if i was a jc i would roll with jc trinkets probably
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...wow, do you even know how to play this game?

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That was my error. I read wrong from another site and never bothered to double check. And no, my threat is fine. My guild has the 2 of the top geared players in our serv and none of them can pull aggro off me unless I slack off. I looked at your build and I see parts you should change to increase your threat output. Try using glyph of seal of vengeance (+10 expertise) + putting 5 points in the holy talent that buffs seal of corruption. Also, my main weapon > yours. The threat output from Hammer of Righteous adds up. Lastly I geared for a balance between expertise/stamina. Looking at your gems alone, you're going for the mana sponge build which doesn't do much to help your threat generation.

Also, I know my enchant isn't the best atm, I just said that I didn't change it cause I didn't need to yet. Not gonna waste gold buying enchants when I play my druid more.

And yes i know how to play this game. There's no need to be a dick because I have wrong information. Plus, when did knowing theory translate into a good player?

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ooh ooh! do me next! I'm gonna say...... $25 (I haven't played in a while, that's why I'm untalented lol)
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you should just xfer when I do if you're ally, or come play on Tortheldrin or whatever with me I made a hordie, she's level 4! I can't find her on armory though lol.
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I don't know who the first part of that message was directed at but I don't have a pally so I'm guessing not me. However, I know the mechanics of all classes so I do know what I'm talking about. As far as I know, expertise is less important to paladins than other tanking classes because of the higher than usual amount of spells used to hold agro. Expertise is much more important to warriors, druids and death knights...in that order.

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Knowing theory and game mechanics makes you a better player. It means knowing proper rotations, min/maxing and priorities in raid situations.
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My shaman was very near BiS pre-3.1 and my DK was two pieces from full BiS tank gear. With Ulduar out, they're no longer even close.
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ooh ooh! do me next! I'm gonna say...... $25 (I haven't played in a while, that's why I'm untalented lol)
Pre-3.1 BiS stat-stick...and a good trinket. But that's about it.
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you should just xfer when I do if you're ally, or come play on Tortheldrin or whatever with me I made a hordie, she's level 4! I can't find her on armory though lol.
yeah i'm ally. i haven't played since the patch came out lol

i'll figure something out.

i might just really quit cuz i seriously don't want to sit for hours through a raid. it's boring as hell.
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Lol yea I figured it wasn't worth much I don't like raiding, especially not with my guild. They all have sticks up their asses (hence me xferring, which my GL is going to be mad about since we've been friends for a few years now and I still haven't told him).
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