REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Vancouver LifeStyles (VLS) > The Business and Financial Forum

The Business and Financial Forum THIS SPACE OPEN FOR ADVERTISEMENT. YOU SHOULD BE ADVERTISING HERE!
Revscene Wall Street.
Consolidating debt? Good business tips? Buying stock? How's our economy doing? Discuss and share advice and tools on everyday banking, investing, wealth management and insurance.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-11-2012, 12:53 PM   #8051
I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
 
strykn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: vancouver
Posts: 3,550
Thanked 4,012 Times in 988 Posts
Failed 210 Times in 55 Posts
Obama meeting weds... expect the same market reaction from outcome.
Advertisement
strykn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 05:32 AM   #8052
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
jasonturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
Finally... Veris Gold AKA YNG makes some money!

Veris Gold Corp. - News Releases - Veris Gold Corp. Reports Record Net Income of US $9.0 Million and Positive Cash Flow of US $3.8 Million for the Third Quarter 2012 - Mon Nov 12, 2012...

Spoiler!


Wonder how this will affect the share price...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo
Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life
jasonturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 04:15 PM   #8053
14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
 
Mizter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 661
Thanked 452 Times in 55 Posts
Failed 19 Times in 5 Posts
Does anyone have any advice/resources for someone looking to get into stocks? I have a pretty strong background in statistics (not sure of that is of any help) and currently taking a few courses in finance so familiar with some terminology.

I'm looking to maybe starting off with around 2000-3000 then slowly move my way up just so I don't lose too much money at the start.
Mizter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 07:01 PM   #8054
I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
 
strykn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: vancouver
Posts: 3,550
Thanked 4,012 Times in 988 Posts
Failed 210 Times in 55 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mizter View Post
Does anyone have any advice/resources for someone looking to get into stocks? I have a pretty strong background in statistics (not sure of that is of any help) and currently taking a few courses in finance so familiar with some terminology.

I'm looking to maybe starting off with around 2000-3000 then slowly move my way up just so I don't lose too much money at the start.
Learn the "street smarts" of the market + book smarts( for things like TA etc) *( No emotion / discipline) = success

strykn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 02:38 PM   #8055
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
jasonturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
So should I load up with some more AMRN? Make it an even 10k shares? lol.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo
Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life
jasonturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 07:22 AM   #8056
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
jasonturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo View Post
So should I load up with some more AMRN? Make it an even 10k shares? lol.
Pulled the trigger, now holding 10k shares of AMRN @ avg. of $10.92



Friday is the next issue of FDA orange book, should act as a catalyst in one way or another.

PS: If this goes well, I will be selling and staying out of the market for a while.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo
Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life
jasonturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 09:27 AM   #8057
SiRVs up, dude
 
SiRV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Outerspace
Posts: 4,771
Thanked 345 Times in 178 Posts
Failed 31 Times in 17 Posts
GL
__________________
My Feedback Rating
SiRV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 09:58 AM   #8058
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
jasonturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by SiRV View Post
GL
Not sure if that's "Good Luck" or "Good Lord"...

Either way, I appreciate it, and worst case scenario - I lose a bunch of money, and provide others with some amusement as they laugh at my misfortune.

The joys of disclosure... not like so many others who invest and claim to make tons of money.. but never actually provide any proof. (Many of my co-workers who know nothing about investments).
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo
Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life
jasonturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 10:57 AM   #8059
SiRVs up, dude
 
SiRV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Outerspace
Posts: 4,771
Thanked 345 Times in 178 Posts
Failed 31 Times in 17 Posts
Either would be appropriate in your case, but best of luck!

Disclosure is nice... my long term GIC's have matured and I have everything sitting in a HISA at the moment. I think I will be purchasing a big lump of VCE & VTI before the new year and another big lump a few months later depending on market conditions.
__________________
My Feedback Rating
SiRV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 01:10 PM   #8060
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,945
Thanked 1,123 Times in 533 Posts
Failed 71 Times in 38 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo View Post
Not sure if that's "Good Luck" or "Good Lord"...

Either way, I appreciate it, and worst case scenario - I lose a bunch of money, and provide others with some amusement as they laugh at my misfortune.

The joys of disclosure... not like so many others who invest and claim to make tons of money.. but never actually provide any proof. (Many of my co-workers who know nothing about investments).
If you're playing catalyst, why don't you buy calls instead?
highfive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 01:16 PM   #8061
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
jasonturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by highfive View Post
If you're playing catalyst, why don't you buy calls instead?
I'm not sure how well calls will work out if AMRN is acquired in the near term...?

Feel free to educate me in the matter lol

Edit: Unless I'm a complete retard.. the options market sure seems to suggest a lot of bullish interest.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo
Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life

Last edited by jasonturbo; 11-14-2012 at 01:22 PM.
jasonturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 01:30 PM   #8062
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,945
Thanked 1,123 Times in 533 Posts
Failed 71 Times in 38 Posts
If it's acquired in near term, the problem with options is that you don't know when. So to be safe you have to buy later expiration options.

I thought you were buying for the FDA orange book? I'm not familiar with pharma stuff so if you're playing that, i don't see why options isn't a better way to play it.

It seems like people are betting on that since I saw a lot of Nov 17 expiration call options. But it looks like some have hedged it with puts too.

Hopefully someone else on the board can help us with options.
highfive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 03:14 PM   #8063
I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
 
strykn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: vancouver
Posts: 3,550
Thanked 4,012 Times in 988 Posts
Failed 210 Times in 55 Posts
Highly doubt amrn gets NCE, good luck. if they pull it off somehow should be big pop
strykn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 03:23 PM   #8064
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
jasonturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by strykn View Post
Highly doubt amrn gets NCE, good luck. if they pull it off somehow should be big pop
My little bet really has nothing to do with expecting a pop if they get NCE status, more so a bet that once the FDA makes its decision (good or bad) a potential suitor will finally come forward with a formal offer.

Either way, I need all the luck I can get lol.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo
Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life
jasonturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 08:58 AM   #8065
SiRVs up, dude
 
SiRV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Outerspace
Posts: 4,771
Thanked 345 Times in 178 Posts
Failed 31 Times in 17 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma View Post
i don't play stocks but i charted AAPL for u guys. too lazy to post

but the fibonacci projection was right on the dot... the projection was right at 700.

I would look for a buy around ~528.66, wait for a GOOD green day and buy in.
if it breaks ~528.66, it could easily drop to ~420.

remember those numbers!
525.xx today!, did you buy or are you waiting for more of a drop?
__________________
My Feedback Rating
SiRV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 03:31 PM   #8066
I keep RS good
 
Ulic Qel-Droma's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Cosmos
Posts: 28,720
Thanked 5,581 Times in 1,516 Posts
Failed 869 Times in 293 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by SiRV View Post
525.xx today!, did you buy or are you waiting for more of a drop?
what part of "wait for a GOOD GREEN DAY" didnt u understand lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma View Post
you don't catch a falling knife.

what you perceive as a low price, may not actually be low.

say apple is at 700, and it drops to 547. is that low? would u buy there?

to some that's low. what a deal! 150 bux cheaper!

what if it drops to 400? 300? 200? 100? 0?

the strategy is knowing WHEN it's ACTUALLY a "low" (as in it's gonna turn around). not just guessing out of your ass.

always wait for a confirmation before entering.

if it's going up, you can buy anywhere and you'll make money.

so why the fuck would buy when its going down? why not wait till it's going up and reduce your risk by THAT much.

you gotta be able to flip your "buy" mentality to "short".

if it's going down, you gotta remember, all the bears that are short the stock have the OPPOSITE mentality as you.

it was HIGH, and it started to go DOWN and it was CONFIRMED going down, therefore they SHORT the stock.

and all the poor bulls are trying to buy it as it goes down. no. wrong mentality. you'll get fucking slaughtered.

as it's going down the bears are selling into it everyday. and as it slides they make money everyday.

if you're a bull, you should do the opposite, WAIT (patience) till it's actually going up (after it's gone down), and buy in. and if you're confident in your trade, then that means the market will go up almost immediately. meaning you can keep buying in as long as it keeps going up.


im a big bear, i can tell you, things always drop faster than they rise.
could take 3-4 years to build a position, and in a fraction of the time the bears can wipe it out.

fear is the strongest human emotion. as markets are going up, there's always doubt that it's topped out. but as it's tanking, everyone is fearful, and dumps.

it would be 100% retarded to buy as it's dropping like a stone. that's just gambling. trying to pick a low based off of nothing. you always wait for a confirmation.
wait for confirmation.

it can bounce here (temporarily... or not)
it can bounce at the next level or around ~466.
or ~390...etc

Honestly, I would already be short apple, and today I would have added on to my position and short more. I would double to triple my position in shorts today.

Last edited by Ulic Qel-Droma; 11-15-2012 at 03:39 PM.
Ulic Qel-Droma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 04:56 PM   #8067
2 Wheelin' Mod
 
Jas29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Surrey
Posts: 849
Thanked 505 Times in 188 Posts
Failed 18 Times in 10 Posts
New to stocks which broker service do you guys use??

I asked TD and its $30/trade
Jas29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 05:46 PM   #8068
I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
 
strykn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: vancouver
Posts: 3,550
Thanked 4,012 Times in 988 Posts
Failed 210 Times in 55 Posts
^ Questrade / IB / ToS Canada are the best brokers
strykn is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 11-15-2012, 07:00 PM   #8069
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
jasonturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
FDA Orange Book update, can anyone confirm that this is in fact released at the end of trading day?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo
Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life
jasonturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 09:41 AM   #8070
My homepage has been set to RS
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,489
Thanked 1,458 Times in 588 Posts
Failed 16 Times in 9 Posts
Damnnn AAPL 505 to 530 today, there are definitely a lot of options players who bankedddd on the burst from 505

Attributed to "Story going around that several hedge funds were forced to liquidate Apple holdings owing to sizeable margin calls. This makes sense. $AAPL"
shawnly1000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 12:48 PM   #8071
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
jasonturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo View Post
FDA Orange Book update, can anyone confirm that this is in fact released at the end of trading day?
Orange Book did not contain an update for AMRN's Vascepa. Worst possible outcome, I'm surprised the stock didn't fall below 10$ immediately.

Fack.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo
Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life
jasonturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:52 PM   #8072
My homepage has been set to RS
 
xpl0sive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Burnaby,BC
Posts: 2,053
Thanked 1,185 Times in 304 Posts
Failed 115 Times in 62 Posts
did you sell at the 11.30 level?
__________________
Fast, Reliable, Cheap

A car can be only 2 out of the 3.
xpl0sive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 03:18 PM   #8073
Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
 
Scoobysnax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 223
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Failed 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma View Post
what part of "wait for a GOOD GREEN DAY" didnt u understand lol



wait for confirmation.

it can bounce here (temporarily... or not)
it can bounce at the next level or around ~466.
or ~390...etc

Honestly, I would already be short apple, and today I would have added on to my position and short more. I would double to triple my position in shorts today.
What do you think of todays action? looks like a hammer reversal off that 505 point. Anyone think it was telegraphed since 505 is exactly 200 point from its all time high lol.
__________________
Boo
Scoobysnax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 05:02 PM   #8074
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
jasonturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by xpl0sive View Post
did you sell at the 11.30 level?
Did not sell, sat at my desk with a box of kleenex, a bottle of vodke,... and a revolver lol.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo
Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life
jasonturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 05:03 PM   #8075
I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
 
strykn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: vancouver
Posts: 3,550
Thanked 4,012 Times in 988 Posts
Failed 210 Times in 55 Posts
playing stocks for buyouts is the worst strategy ever in bio
strykn is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net