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Old 11-11-2012, 12:53 PM   #8051
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Finally... Veris Gold AKA YNG makes some money!

Veris Gold Corp. - News Releases - Veris Gold Corp. Reports Record Net Income of US $9.0 Million and Positive Cash Flow of US $3.8 Million for the Third Quarter 2012 - Mon Nov 12, 2012...

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Wonder how this will affect the share price...
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:15 PM   #8053
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Does anyone have any advice/resources for someone looking to get into stocks? I have a pretty strong background in statistics (not sure of that is of any help) and currently taking a few courses in finance so familiar with some terminology.

I'm looking to maybe starting off with around 2000-3000 then slowly move my way up just so I don't lose too much money at the start.
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Does anyone have any advice/resources for someone looking to get into stocks? I have a pretty strong background in statistics (not sure of that is of any help) and currently taking a few courses in finance so familiar with some terminology.

I'm looking to maybe starting off with around 2000-3000 then slowly move my way up just so I don't lose too much money at the start.
Learn the "street smarts" of the market + book smarts( for things like TA etc) *( No emotion / discipline) = success

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So should I load up with some more AMRN? Make it an even 10k shares? lol.
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So should I load up with some more AMRN? Make it an even 10k shares? lol.
Pulled the trigger, now holding 10k shares of AMRN @ avg. of $10.92



Friday is the next issue of FDA orange book, should act as a catalyst in one way or another.

PS: If this goes well, I will be selling and staying out of the market for a while.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:27 AM   #8057
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Not sure if that's "Good Luck" or "Good Lord"...

Either way, I appreciate it, and worst case scenario - I lose a bunch of money, and provide others with some amusement as they laugh at my misfortune.

The joys of disclosure... not like so many others who invest and claim to make tons of money.. but never actually provide any proof. (Many of my co-workers who know nothing about investments).
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Either would be appropriate in your case, but best of luck!

Disclosure is nice... my long term GIC's have matured and I have everything sitting in a HISA at the moment. I think I will be purchasing a big lump of VCE & VTI before the new year and another big lump a few months later depending on market conditions.
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Not sure if that's "Good Luck" or "Good Lord"...

Either way, I appreciate it, and worst case scenario - I lose a bunch of money, and provide others with some amusement as they laugh at my misfortune.

The joys of disclosure... not like so many others who invest and claim to make tons of money.. but never actually provide any proof. (Many of my co-workers who know nothing about investments).
If you're playing catalyst, why don't you buy calls instead?
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If you're playing catalyst, why don't you buy calls instead?
I'm not sure how well calls will work out if AMRN is acquired in the near term...?

Feel free to educate me in the matter lol

Edit: Unless I'm a complete retard.. the options market sure seems to suggest a lot of bullish interest.
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If it's acquired in near term, the problem with options is that you don't know when. So to be safe you have to buy later expiration options.

I thought you were buying for the FDA orange book? I'm not familiar with pharma stuff so if you're playing that, i don't see why options isn't a better way to play it.

It seems like people are betting on that since I saw a lot of Nov 17 expiration call options. But it looks like some have hedged it with puts too.

Hopefully someone else on the board can help us with options.
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Highly doubt amrn gets NCE, good luck. if they pull it off somehow should be big pop
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Highly doubt amrn gets NCE, good luck. if they pull it off somehow should be big pop
My little bet really has nothing to do with expecting a pop if they get NCE status, more so a bet that once the FDA makes its decision (good or bad) a potential suitor will finally come forward with a formal offer.

Either way, I need all the luck I can get lol.
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i don't play stocks but i charted AAPL for u guys. too lazy to post

but the fibonacci projection was right on the dot... the projection was right at 700.

I would look for a buy around ~528.66, wait for a GOOD green day and buy in.
if it breaks ~528.66, it could easily drop to ~420.

remember those numbers!
525.xx today!, did you buy or are you waiting for more of a drop?
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:31 PM   #8066
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525.xx today!, did you buy or are you waiting for more of a drop?
what part of "wait for a GOOD GREEN DAY" didnt u understand lol

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you don't catch a falling knife.

what you perceive as a low price, may not actually be low.

say apple is at 700, and it drops to 547. is that low? would u buy there?

to some that's low. what a deal! 150 bux cheaper!

what if it drops to 400? 300? 200? 100? 0?

the strategy is knowing WHEN it's ACTUALLY a "low" (as in it's gonna turn around). not just guessing out of your ass.

always wait for a confirmation before entering.

if it's going up, you can buy anywhere and you'll make money.

so why the fuck would buy when its going down? why not wait till it's going up and reduce your risk by THAT much.

you gotta be able to flip your "buy" mentality to "short".

if it's going down, you gotta remember, all the bears that are short the stock have the OPPOSITE mentality as you.

it was HIGH, and it started to go DOWN and it was CONFIRMED going down, therefore they SHORT the stock.

and all the poor bulls are trying to buy it as it goes down. no. wrong mentality. you'll get fucking slaughtered.

as it's going down the bears are selling into it everyday. and as it slides they make money everyday.

if you're a bull, you should do the opposite, WAIT (patience) till it's actually going up (after it's gone down), and buy in. and if you're confident in your trade, then that means the market will go up almost immediately. meaning you can keep buying in as long as it keeps going up.


im a big bear, i can tell you, things always drop faster than they rise.
could take 3-4 years to build a position, and in a fraction of the time the bears can wipe it out.

fear is the strongest human emotion. as markets are going up, there's always doubt that it's topped out. but as it's tanking, everyone is fearful, and dumps.

it would be 100% retarded to buy as it's dropping like a stone. that's just gambling. trying to pick a low based off of nothing. you always wait for a confirmation.
wait for confirmation.

it can bounce here (temporarily... or not)
it can bounce at the next level or around ~466.
or ~390...etc

Honestly, I would already be short apple, and today I would have added on to my position and short more. I would double to triple my position in shorts today.

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New to stocks which broker service do you guys use??

I asked TD and its $30/trade
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FDA Orange Book update, can anyone confirm that this is in fact released at the end of trading day?
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Damnnn AAPL 505 to 530 today, there are definitely a lot of options players who bankedddd on the burst from 505

Attributed to "Story going around that several hedge funds were forced to liquidate Apple holdings owing to sizeable margin calls. This makes sense. $AAPL"
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FDA Orange Book update, can anyone confirm that this is in fact released at the end of trading day?
Orange Book did not contain an update for AMRN's Vascepa. Worst possible outcome, I'm surprised the stock didn't fall below 10$ immediately.

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wait for confirmation.

it can bounce here (temporarily... or not)
it can bounce at the next level or around ~466.
or ~390...etc

Honestly, I would already be short apple, and today I would have added on to my position and short more. I would double to triple my position in shorts today.
What do you think of todays action? looks like a hammer reversal off that 505 point. Anyone think it was telegraphed since 505 is exactly 200 point from its all time high lol.
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Did not sell, sat at my desk with a box of kleenex, a bottle of vodke,... and a revolver lol.
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