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There's a weekly call option for $3500... hahaha. I think unless some crazy events like SP500 inclusion gets announced this week, the chance of that happening is pretty slim, even though some people are willing to bet money on it. I mean, even with SP inclusion announcement, there's just no way for share to duplicate in a 4days. |
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Anyone else in RKT? I bought shortly after IPO at 23.75, but DCA'd down to 21.85 as it dropped in price. https://markets.businessinsider.com/...0-8-1029505305 Quote:
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We having a BBQ this weekend, supposedly he's going to bring some crazy wagyu steak to celebrate this milestone... :fuckthatshit: |
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I thought $97 was too high... :( Made a nice tidy profit on Nintendo this week, sold off my entire position. Bought in around $20 when Pok駑on go broke out. Moved some of the profits into TD as I don’t have any Canadian bank exposure |
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But really, if I were to invest into Tesla today, or any company for that matter, what I look is for what kind of future is the company looking to be in, and how far are they from achieving it? I believe the hardest part for Tesla is behind them. They now have Model3/Y that would serve as their foundation, much like how 3-series paves the way for BMW in term of spreading fixed costs. The next stage that Tesla is entering is the exponential growth part. This is the same part where AMZN started its many years of money losing trend while revenue continue to climb exponentially. TSLA seems to be managing fine with expenses, so I don't think we'd see the money losing trend like AMZN had to go through, but I'm just saying don't be surprised to see losses as it takes money to make money. With 2 Gigafactories under construction, 1 (Giga Shanghai) expanding, Tesla is going to easily 3-5x its current production in a year or 2 once everything is completed and operational. IMO (again, biased af, so do your own dd), with car business alone, by being the leader in EV industry (Tesla got 80% of market share in H12020 for US EV market), it can justify its current valuation and beyond (I give no less than 1T valuation). And with the recent events in California, we can see that the power infrastructure in even a developed market like California is no match to the global warming/climate change. The reason is that increasing capacity is costly. And they wouldn't build 110% of capacity if the usual load is sub 80%.So, Tesla's battery pack business (both residential and industrial scale) would expand in the next few years. And if Tesla solves the autonomous driving, sky is the limit for share price. Anyway, I think in the long term, TSLA has room to grow. Yes... probably won't be the 100x climb from IPO to now... but I expect a decent return too. Right now, I think the market is too volatile and there'd likely be some profit taking after the split (record date is today, but new price is not until 08/31). Maybe keep an eye on it and if after 08/31 and prior to battery day (09/22 IIRC), there's a dip for profit taking, I'd probably get some shares by then as the battery day suppose to bring some mind blowing stuff. I'd mark this thread and revisit it if we ever reach 2050 again post-split (5x current valuation) |
XPENG has its IPO tomorrow. Chinese Tesla backed by Alibaba. |
I was thinking of buying Tesla and Microsoft last year - ended up putting it into Index funds instead. I am so risk adverse. Boo. |
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i bought bigC ipo and made so much off of it! more than 100% gains lol |
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I値l hunt you down if I知 not a millionaire in a month |
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If I bought it, I was going to eventually sell it later today or tomorrow for a quick play, but not sure that's possible based on price movement I've seen today. I'm expecting it to drop next week to $18. |
Mine is just a small position looking at more of a longer term hold but the more I read into it the less appealing it seems lol |
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IMO XPEV is only worth a speculating play, but if you are in for long term, you should recheck your research. They claimed out loud that US upcoming requirement for double auditing (until now, Chinese companies listed in US can choose not to have their result audited by US auditors) might impact the share price. I don't find that very reassuring. :fuckthatshit: And if I learned a thing or two about good company to invest in, is that always pick those who has a principle on the way they do business. You can outsmart and outplay your competitors by any legal means... but as soon as you willing to get into grey areas like IP stealing from employees poaching and other quasi-illegal stuff (as not proven in court yet), there's no line they aren't willing to cross. So I avoid any of those companies (last example I can remember was Uber) because there isn't likely money to be made in the long term, and I'm a long investor. |
Not a stock picker but my index funds are back to pre covid levels... |
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still a lot for me to learn but i have most of my high earning stocks on auto stop market in case it crashes so i'm still left with profit if for some reason it crashed while i was sleeping or away. |
Something I learned recently: diversification=deworsification. Warren Buffett once said that diversification is a protection against ignorance. But when one finds a great business that can successfully grow itself, you should put as much money into it as your budget allows you base on risk assessment. While there is nothing wrong with having a diversified portfolio in general, I'd suggest to invest in yourself with some books that really teachs you how to analyze a business on a value proposition. And instead of investing in index funds, invest in a portfolio of value stocks that consists of different market segment... say a portion on general consumables, transportation/utilities for stability, and then with another portion in growth stocks. A small tip I do myself: I use cash account for stability stocks, and use TFSA for growth stocks. Usually that's against the general consensus as stability stocks means dividend and steady growth, and they become taxable in cash account. But take my TSLA holding in TFSA for example. It has grown about 200%. And I expect it to continue growing in the foreseeable future. Say if I had 15k in it, and by the time I actually sell in 20yrs, it becomes 165k, based on my tax bracket by then, I'd be looking (150k*0.5)*0.29=roughly 22k in tax saving. If I had same 15k of stability stock in TFSA with a decent 5% dividend payment and grows to 50k... I'd have only saved ~4350(dividend)+~5000 in taxes. Numers are rough and rate chosen for simplicity sake, but you get the idea. |
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TSLA prices driven by speculation and option chain gambling? Shocking news lol.:smug: Anybody else starting to hear a lot of non investor, first time trader going crazy over aapl and TSLA post split? The janitor at our company has made 50%+ on this TSLA investment, he has no idea what he is doing nor have any idea on the fundamental. He's about to dump all his saving into more TSLA. starting the get the "bubble about to burst" vibe. |
That Zoom jump today WutFace |
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This is also a great spot for institutions to dump their long time holding on to the retail players. the only role retail investor serve in this great game of stock market is to provide liquidity for the big boys. Market might be bullish in the near term but wouldn't be surprise if we see 20-30%+ flash dump/correction in the not so far future |
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