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Old 06-01-2006, 11:31 AM   #26
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so you really have to see if it's worth it for you to get certain lenses.

you can always start out with a 70-300 lens that shouldn't cost more than 400 bucks or if you want a cheaper 70-200 f2.8 lens you can always checkout Sigma's version, as it is very good for the price as well.

and buy used, you'll save a ton of money that way.
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I say go for a 18-200, its the perfect all-in -one

Wide for party shots and it has enough reach for 90% of the shots needed. You can geta deal on the New Tamron XR DiII LD (won the new Tipa 2005 award) or get a Canon version.

IS is great to have as well, but if your steady, you can get away with having no IS under 200
18-200? there's no good lense for the canons with this range, not even the Tamron
infact there's none that is good at this range
even the 18-200 VR from nikkor is overrated. distortion, bad bokeh, and a slow zoom. It happens to be not that sharp as well.
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Go used. Both of my lenses are 2nd hand and the condition has been great while saving me $ as well.
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Old 06-01-2006, 01:01 PM   #29
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18-200? there's no good lense for the canons with this range, not even the Tamron
infact there's none that is good at this range
even the 18-200 VR from nikkor is overrated. distortion, bad bokeh, and a slow zoom. It happens to be not that sharp as well.

the distortion is no worse than any other super-zooms. at 18mm it's quite bad but so is everything else out there.

bokeh... find me a consumer zoom lens that has good bokeh, please. it's not just the 18-200 VR.

slow zoom... again, find me a super zoom that is faster than this. at 200mm , f5.6 is acutally pretty good. With VR you get a couple more stops for handholdability.

Sharpness, the copy I tried was good, about the same as the 18-70 ,and that says a lot about it because the 18-70 is pretty good for a cheap zoom lens.

If you compare any of these lense with the pro ones (any Canon L lens or any Nikon ED lens) then sure it's not as good, but it also doesn't cost 1500 or 2000 bucks.

At $899 (it was $799 when announced but stupid Nikon jacked up the price), find me a lens that goes from 18 to 200, with VR and AF-S, and produces similar image quality.

The closest is the 17-85 IS and that thing is nowhere near as good as nikon's 18-200.

Overrated? Only beucase of the huge demand.
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Old 06-01-2006, 02:53 PM   #30
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Hmmm....to combine these lens threads all into one or not.....that's the question....



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We do consolidate a lot of threads around here, I dont think it'd hurt to have "The Lens Thread"
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where can You find used?
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www.camerabuysell.com
www.craigslist.org
www.bccamera.com (buy/sell forum)

and if you don't mind buying things sight-unseen:

www.fredmiranda.com (probably the biggest inventory of used camera stuff but most are in the US)

www.keh.com

lots and lots of used stuff out there.
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where can You find used?
Kerrsdale Cameras
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I checked the richmond location for kerrisdale... they were pretty rude to me when I asked.

Wheres leos?
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You need to go to the main store in Kerrisdale or check their website.

Leo's is on Granville st between Nelson & Helmcken.
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Is there much of a difference between the Tamron and Sigma 18-200's?

I'm in the same situation, I want to get a better array of lenses for my 20d.

I was thinking of the 28-135mm IS, and the 10-22mm. I probably do a lot more wide angle than zoom, but I'd like to have the capability... so maybe a 10-22 and 18-200?
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I'm actually thinking about saving my bones and buying the 70-200 f/2.8L

Those things look sick.
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I'm actually thinking about saving my bones and buying the 70-200 f/2.8L

Those things look sick.
Why not get a 600 f/4, they look even more sick.
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I'm actually thinking about saving my bones and buying the 70-200 f/2.8L

Those things look sick.
Hey I got 1200mm L4 in storage.. Trade you your first born for it!
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You know what, I should correct myself. If you want a cool looking lens you need to get a Nikon 200-400 f/4 VR. Nevermind that it doesn't fit your camera, it looks MEGA SICC though.
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oh, you mean this thing? nah it's not sick at all

it's GROSS

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You need an X-ray lens that will see through women's clothing!
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I like the way he's thinking!
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You need an X-ray lens that will see through women's clothing!
All you need is a very slightly modified SONY digicam with the Nightshot feature.
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sick as in image quality and performance :P

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canon 28-135 IS? or 17-85 is??

IM not too familiar with the IS system. How dependable are they for low light indoor use?

Ive read both of these lenses reviews and got mixed results. I cant afford L lenses so these 2 are within my budget range.

Anyone use these lenses before? can you tell me how the quality of the pictures are? Pros and cons of these lenses? Any rec. for other lenses?

Rite now i got a 28mm and a 50mm prime lenses. Both are very good for indoor use, im just getting lazy switiching em all the time when im taking party shots. so i need to replace em with one of the suggested lenses.
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