very. My s2 is actually could shot 1/60th with the focus being a little soft or if the subjects were sitting still sharp.

Lets start off by saying 17-85IS can only be used on the rebel or 20D, while the 28-135IS is for all EOS cameras.
Alot of people use the 28-135IS, but they don't like it on a 1.6x crop camera. So Canon decided to release the 17-85IS which is the smaller brother of the 28-135IS
ex. 17-85 x 1.6 = 28-135IS

Same lenses. It just depends if you want more wide, or more telephoto

thx mananetwork. i have the rebel. i dont mind the wideness of teh 28 cuz i only use it to take party pictures so i could careless.
i guess in terms of resale value its easier to sell the 28-135 if i decide to.

Now how is the quality on these things? i heard its soft, but some say sharp. can anyone tell me this from exp?

My friend's got a 17-85 and I swear to god he got one of the BEST copies evermade... at 70mm his lens is just as sharp as some L lenses, I kid you not.

It really depends on sample variation and what "copy" you happend to get... if it's good, then it's REALLY good.

Go buy from a store and try out 2 or 3 copies, and get the one that seems to be the sharpest at the focal range that you'll be using the most.

The 28-135 would be a very good walk-around lens. If you got it I think it would rarely leave your camera.

Do IS lenses let you pan?

yes, I believe you have to turn off the is or set it to tripod mode or something.

Many of them have a mode that'll only stabilize one axis so that the other can blur. I haven't done much panning myself so I can't really verify if it works in full IS mode, but you can always turn IS off if you find it undesirable for the shot you're taking.

the basic IS ones no, but the more advanced ones IS2 will

what lenses have IS2?

24-105 IS *I THINK*, 70-200 2.8 IS, 300 IS, 100-400 IS, + the rest of the expensive lenses

oh... hmm.. is it a switch or just a feature within the IS? :o

70-200 F4L or 70-300 F4-5.6 IS?

I'm sure everybody will say the L lens, and call me a noob, but what is better about the L series vs the non-L?

Depending on where you look, the prices aren't too far apart.

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Bonjourma listed your basic options if you want wide.

And to answer your question: 14mm is pretty close to as wide as you can go and be rectilinear. The 6mm Senna mentioned is a circular fisheye, which means it doesn't fill a frame.

Sigma 18-200

I probably going to buy in the next year

70-200 f/2.8L 1200 can with ship
50 mm f/1.8 (cheap glass with such sharp results) 100 dollars used
An Is lens... i think the 24-105 is (or somethign liek that) goes for around 600

he's asking about advice on what lenses are good to buy, not what your getting and how cheep you can get it for :gay:

Actually those are probably 3 good lenses anyone should buy with a canon system, so why you gotta be a troll?

24-105

No idea how your gonna get that for 600bones

i think i ment this...

I think

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

Do you have any firsthand experience with any of the aforementioned lenses that you're giving purchase advice on?

sorry no, its advice that other photographers have given me.

i reallly think either buy the 70-200mm f4 or the IS


the f2.8 is so heavy...it'd be hard to use without IS

saying this because i used an IS two weeks ago shooting a music concert

the pics are so damn sharp



i was at about 30 feet (?) away...take shots at 200mm f2.8

and u can still see single hairs on the pictures.

everyone needs a 70-200mm f2.8 IS!!!



well, if u can't buy it, at least rent it for $35!!!

its 500 dollars more american though :/

I have a 70mm~210mm f2.8, but I get a lot of CA on my 7D. Super sharp on film, though.