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Senna4ever 06-23-2006 01:02 AM

With my Minolta 50mm macro, the closest focusing distance at 1:2 ratio is 23 cm. With my Nikon 55mm micro, the closest distance is 25cm @ 1:2. A 1:1 ratio Minolta 50mm macro lens focuses at 2 inches. A little too close. The Canon 60mm macro close focuses at 4 inches.

Ch28 07-12-2006 10:34 PM

Newest D-SLR member here
 
So after a little bit of procrastinating and saving up, I went ahead and ordered a Nikon D50 (body only) I was debating between this one or a Canon but from reading online reviews and user feedback, it seemed that the D50 was a better camera to start out with.

I've been doing some reading and I can't figure out which one is a good lens to start with. It seems that everybody recommends a different one as their "must have" lens: 35-70, 18-55, 55-200, 24-85, 18-70 etc.

I'm not made of money :p so I can't afford a lot of lenses right now so I'm looking for some recommendations on which lens is the must have lens. I can start off with that one and then slowly build up from there.

Thanks :D

MikesJo 07-12-2006 10:41 PM

18-70.

You should've bought my canon!

Ch28 07-12-2006 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikesJo
18-70.

You should've bought my canon!

Haha...Wendy told me about your camera but I got a great deal on the D50 body.

MikesJo 07-12-2006 10:46 PM

Well if you got a really good deal then that's great :).

Now you have to start posting pics too!

Meowjin 07-12-2006 11:20 PM

d50 has probably some of the best anti-noise for any nikon camera... still not a fan. Go to bccamera.com and look on the forums for some used nikon lenses. Hope that helps.

Also 18-55 is always good. You get your wide angle and your small zoom.

Senna4ever 07-13-2006 12:24 AM

Welcome to Nikonia! I'm glad you saw the light and got a Nikon instead of a ergonomic nightmare of a Canon....but a Sony a100 would also have been a good choice too.

Get primes, not zooms. :) If yu must get a zoom, I think a lens 18-70 rang would be great.

MikesJo 07-13-2006 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Welcome to Nikonia! I'm glad you saw the light and got a Nikon instead of a ergonomic nightmare of a Canon....but a Sony a100 would also have been a good choice too.

Get primes, not zooms. :) If yu must get a zoom, I think a lens 18-70 rang would be great.

The ergonomics on a canon are great! I don't know what you're talking about...

GFunk 07-13-2006 12:40 AM

i agree with the 18-70, if you want something even cheaper though just grab the kit lens, 18-55.

and if money wasn't an issue, i'd say try the 18-200

Rikaro 07-13-2006 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikesJo
The ergonomics on a canon are great! I don't know what you're talking about...
if you play with both systems, the Canon are more simplified, where the Nikon has more buttons. However if you know how the Nikon systems works, then change settings would be wooping fast! I hate where the ergonomics on the Canon 5D sucked compared to the D200, but when you jump up to the 1 series, it's a whole different story.

Domani 07-13-2006 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikesJo
The ergonomics on a canon are great! I don't know what you're talking about...

i agree

nikon has like menus within menus...

Senna4ever 07-13-2006 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikesJo
The ergonomics on a canon are great! I don't know what you're talking about...
Both Canon & Nikon cameras are so menu biased, but the Canon is worse. I hate going through layer upon layer just to change a simple setting. That is why I love my 7D & F4s! :)

ramir 07-13-2006 02:44 AM

hey mikesjo what canon do you have and how much?

dub.dub 07-13-2006 08:36 AM

He has a 20D currently and selling an XT which is posted on the FS section.

Bonjour43MA 07-13-2006 08:39 AM

Congrats.

The 18-70 is a bit of a mystery; if you're lucky and get a good copy, it's as sharp as some pro lenses on a 6MP body. However if you get a normal, or "so-so" copy, you'll neither be blown away nor disgusted by the performence... kind of an "ok" lens by common standards.

If you're familiar with Nikon's systems, the 17-55/2.8 is the best in that range, but many have said that the 18-70 is just as good at similar apetures...

and based on my own comparison between the 2 lenses... I probably got a very good copy of the 18-70 because although there are minor diffrences in sharpness, the difference's not significant enough to justify the big lens over the 18-70 at 3 times the cost if you absolutely need f2.8 and more rugged build.

So yeah, find a good 18-70 and avoid the 18mm end, and you'll be very happy with it as a starter lens.

Bonjour43MA 07-13-2006 08:43 AM

Congrats.

The 18-70 is a bit of a mystery; if you're lucky and get a good copy, it's as sharp as some pro lenses on a 6MP body. However if you get a normal, or "so-so" copy, you'll neither be blown away nor disgusted by the performence... kind of an "ok" lens by common standards.

If you're familiar with Nikon's systems, the 17-55/2.8 is the best in that range, but many have said that the 18-70 is just as good at similar apetures...

and based on my own comparison between the 2 lenses... I probably got a very good copy of the 18-70 because although there are minor diffrences in sharpness, the difference's not significant enough to justify the big lens over the 18-70 at 3 times the cost if you don't absolutely need f2.8 and more rugged build.

So yeah, find a good 18-70 and avoid the 18mm end, and you'll be very happy with it as a starter lens.

Meowjin 07-13-2006 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Welcome to Nikonia! I'm glad you saw the light and got a Nikon instead of a ergonomic nightmare of a Canon....
hey!

Ch28 07-13-2006 01:47 PM

Would this be a good lens to go with?

Nikon 18-70mm DX G AF-S Lens

http://www.cametaauctions.com/ebay/n...on_18-70mm.jpg

Quote:

This versatile Nikon 18-70mm AF-S DX Nikkor lens marks a significant advancement in lens design specifically optimized for all Nikon D-series digital SLR cameras.

The AF-S DX 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G has a 3.8x zoom capability which covers the popular focal length range equivalent to 27-105mm in 35mm format. It offers wide-angle, portrait and telephoto capabilities in one compact design with outstanding center-to-edge-to-corner image quality.

This DX lens offers a selection of Nikon's highly regarded technologies such as Silent Wave motor (AF-S) for super fast and quiet autofocus operation, Extra-Low Dispersion glass (ED) for minimized chromatic aberrations, and Internal Focusing (IF) for convenient and balanced handling.

In addition, the AF-S DX 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF also incorporates hallmark Nikon features that customers have come to expect from Nikkor lenses, such as distance information guide window, a reliable metal lens mount for years of durability, and a M/A mode for seamless switching between autofocus and manual.
Focal Length: 18-70mm (27-105mm in 35mm format).
Maximum aperture: f/3.5
Lens construction: 15 elements in 13 groups (3xED glass lens elements, 1x aspherical lens element)
Picture angle: 76° - 22° 50'
Minimum focus range: 0.38m (15 in.)
Max. reproduction ratio: 1/6.2 (.16)
Filter Size: 67mm
Dimensions (Diameter x Length): 073 x 75.5mm (2.9 x 3.0 in.)
Weight : Approx. 390g (14.8 oz.)

endless402 07-13-2006 02:12 PM

yes haha thats what they have been talking about for awhile

its around 350-450

Ch28 07-13-2006 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by endless402
yes haha thats what they have been talking about for awhile

its around 350-450

Good...I just wanted to make sure :p

Meowjin 07-13-2006 09:27 PM

its decent. does it come in an f/4 constant

Meowjin 08-08-2006 01:43 AM

Question About Sigma's.
 
So i picked up a UK photo magazine called Digital Photographer, and I was reading some of the lens reviews they had, and what suprised me is they recommend sigma lenses over most canon lenses/l lenses.

And the the thing is sigmas are remarkably cheaper. Especially since im considering buying a 10-22 and sigmas cost 450 us will the canon cost around 600 us.

So is there a quality diffrence? slower focusing?

Sigma owners post up :D

lowside67 08-08-2006 07:46 AM

I was at Kerrisdale yesterday comparing the Canon 10-22 and the Sigma equivelant and let me be the first to say when I spend the money I will not be saving $200 by buying that Sigma. What a piece of garbage. The Canon is quiet, super fast to focus with the USM, and very sharp - not to mention the rings are smooth. The Sigma just feels cheap, takes forever to focus, and is really noisy.

Kasino 08-08-2006 07:54 AM

^^
agree on super fast focus and very silent focus :)
been a 10-22 owner for 7 + months and no regrets what so ever.

Gopher 08-08-2006 09:28 AM

Yeah, the 10-22 is definitely going to be my next lens purchase... it WAS already going to be, but yesterday I bought a 50mm 1.8 on impulse and am loving every minute of it.

I played with other lenses, and I just think Canon feels nice and solid, everything else feels like a toy.


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