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11-02-2006, 02:30 PM
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thanks for the advice, i would like a new lens because the rebel kit lens is garbage.....ill try your ideas and post em up. Quote: Originally posted by dspirit79
Remember that when you create a portrait you should be trying to make an image that is flattering to the subject or be creative in trying to tell someone about that person's life or personality.
Although it is not imperative that you use a 50mm+ for a portrait it is typically a more pleasing result for a head and shoulder portrait. The distortion that comes from a lens focal length of 50mm and less can be quite dramatic. This being said, I've shot some pretty neat portraits with some wide angle lenses.
As a beginner, I think more importantly is that you understand what different focal lengths do to your images. When you get a good grasp of this concept you will be able to be more flexible with your portraits.
Lighting is an issue, but not something you can easily get away with on a point and shoot. The only way is to use extraneous lights to light your subject and not use the built in flash. This can sometimes be cumbersome or not really viable. Another alternative would be to use natural lighting such as the sun through a window.
There are so many types of lights and to go into that discussion is a whole other matter.
For you personally I would suggest using the furthest zoom you have to take portraits. It may mean you will have to stand further back, but for now start there. Once you start posting some more I'll slowly add to the critique. |
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11-02-2006, 04:22 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by xxx19
thanks for the advice, i would like a new lens because the rebel kit lens is garbage.....ill try your ideas and post em up. | Remember too that too long a lens will make your subject look too "flat". As I recall, the rule of thumb for 35mm cameras was a 100mm lens for "typical" portraits... something in 70-80mm should be about right for 1.5X-1.6X crop factor DSLRs. Your kits lens is a little too short too get past the "barrel distortion" for most portrait work (unless you're going for that effect, of course).
Best lens recommendation for you is Canon L-series... like this: http://tinyurl.com/yn4kbl
Of course, you get what you pay for... L-series glass AIN'T CHEAP. $1500 for that 24-105mm!
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11-02-2006, 08:00 PM
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11-02-2006, 09:32 PM
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11-02-2006, 10:10 PM
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11-02-2006, 10:14 PM
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11-02-2006, 10:21 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by ramir
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11-02-2006, 11:15 PM
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11-02-2006, 11:17 PM
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#1559 | | I don't get it
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| Quote: Originally posted by Gopher
Thats a really interesting shot... Bulb exposure? front or rear sync? | both, lol i'm trying to set my flash to just go on rear but i can't seem to figure it out so it went on both front and rear puahahahaha, but the stronger flash would be the rear
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11-02-2006, 11:32 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by ckrieg
[B] We ran our sprinklers last night for 5 minutes every two hours so they wouldn't freeze up before we got them blown today.
This was the result this morning:
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explain WHY you had to run the sprinklers?!
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11-03-2006, 12:44 AM
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^ we thought they might freeze up over night because it dropped below zero. So we ran them for 5 minutes every two hours to keep them from freezing. They were to be blown out at 8am the next day
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11-03-2006, 08:14 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Soundy
Remember too that too long a lens will make your subject look too "flat". As I recall, the rule of thumb for 35mm cameras was a 100mm lens for "typical" portraits... something in 70-80mm should be about right for 1.5X-1.6X crop factor DSLRs. Your kits lens is a little too short too get past the "barrel distortion" for most portrait work (unless you're going for that effect, of course).
Best lens recommendation for you is Canon L-series... like this: http://tinyurl.com/yn4kbl
Of course, you get what you pay for... L-series glass AIN'T CHEAP. $1500 for that 24-105mm! | Portraits at 200mm don't look flat. The bokeh off of the photograph is amazing and the ability to really focus on the eyes are great. LIGHTING makes your portrait look flat. If you don't have good lighting the photograph looks 2 dimensional.
85mm - 100mm are great portrait lenses for a couple of reasons: You can be closer to your subject and maintain good conversation to loosen them up. And they remove the barrel distortion that you have with lenses that are 50mm or so.
200mm are also excellent portrait lenses BUT the ability to maintain good conversation and instructions diminish due to the distance you have to be away from your subject. In loud places it can be quite difficult. The other problem that can arise is your ability to hand hold steadily. Typically a tripod may be needed to hold the lens steady enough so that you don't see blur or slight fuzzyness due to your motion.
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11-03-2006, 03:22 PM
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#1563 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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wide angle lens have perspective distortion, not barrel distortion.
meaning if you use a wide angle for portraits the face looks distorted and unnatural,
that has to do with the lens length, not the lens quality.
a good quality lens probably have less barrel distortion but the perspective is inherent
but it really depends on what kind of look do you want,
a good portrait can be taken with a 17mm lens as well as a 300mm.
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11-03-2006, 03:33 PM
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11-03-2006, 03:34 PM
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god damn! That's a nice shot!
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11-03-2006, 05:52 PM
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11-03-2006, 07:55 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by ckrieg
^ we thought they might freeze up over night because it dropped below zero. So we ran them for 5 minutes every two hours to keep them from freezing. They were to be blown out at 8am the next day | See, you have to explain to these city kids what you mean by "blowing them out". Those of us who grew up in wintery Interior climes get it, but slickers who've never ventured north of Grouse Mountain don't understand... 
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11-04-2006, 07:57 AM
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#1568 | | I don't get it
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barrel distortion???
i know about lens distortion but what's barrel distortion?
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11-04-2006, 10:10 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by ramir
barrel distortion???
i know about lens distortion but what's barrel distortion? | http://www.mellesgriot.com/glossary/...ls.asp?wID=102
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11-04-2006, 10:51 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Soundy
See, you have to explain to these city kids what you mean by "blowing them out". Those of us who grew up in wintery Interior climes get it, but slickers who've never ventured north of Grouse Mountain don't understand... | lol
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11-04-2006, 11:14 AM
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So, err.....what does it mean to 'blow them out?"
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11-04-2006, 11:17 AM
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^ haha well here' what happends.
In the winter, it drops below zero. When this happends, it is very possible for the water in the pipes to freeze. If that happends, they will bust. So to prevent this, you basically stick a big compressor on one end of the pipes, and "blow them out" so that there is no more water in them, and so they dont freeze and break
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11-04-2006, 11:29 AM
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Ooohhhhhh.....I though it had something to do with the damn grass.
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"Below zero" is like the temperature inside your freezer, ya see. You know those little square things you call "ice cubes" in there? That's what happens to the water inside sprinkler pipes in Kelowna
It almost never actually gets "below zero" in the GVRD, so...
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11-04-2006, 11:39 AM
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