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07-20-2011, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Energy  Quartz is generally more accurate than automatics but like impulse_x said, its about the mechanicals inside the watch.
And yes, unless you spend for a high end brand like Rolex or Patek that makes their own movements then most automatics use the same movement too. So you pay for materials, design, and marketing.
I'd still like an Oris skeleton watch even if it has a mass produced movement   | Oris makes some very nice quality pieces for the price point. I have an Oris Artelier Complication myself
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07-20-2011, 06:08 PM
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#652 | | My name is PJ and I like dogs.
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Originally Posted by iamon Does this mean that my quartz tag heuer is on par as a fossil? Should I have invested in one of their automatic watches instead? | Quote:
Originally Posted by sonick Tag is actually a watch brand as compared to Gucci, D&G, etc. so even though it's quartz it's still a step above Fossil as it's probably got better materials for the casing, strap, crystal, etc. however the movement that actually makes the watch run are pretty much considered the same as a Fossil. | Depends on what you're after. Quartz is more actually more accurate, but the mechanics are very generic.
Like Sonick said, Swiss made brands like Tag and Tissot are actually respected watch brands - the companies dedicate their whole brand towards watches, Quartz or not.
But Gucci, Armani, etc. are fashion brands, and they make their watches to be more fashion accessories. So pretty much one of their designers draws a picture of what they want the watch to look like, and send it into a generic watchmaking company, likely Fossil, who then outsources to China to be made. Ironic how people still hunt for "authenticity" of these watches.
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07-20-2011, 06:14 PM
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^Well, Tag Heuer made sunglasses and branded cell phones for awhile  | |
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07-20-2011, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermyzy ^Well, Tag Heuer made sunglasses and branded cell phones for awhile | For those I wouldnt choose Tag for. I'll stick with Persol and Apple :-P Posted via RS Mobile | 
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07-20-2011, 09:02 PM
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#655 | | My name is PJ and I like dogs.
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Haha, Tag's glasses are actually pretty decent too. They have some interesting styles.. But yeah, they wouldn't be my first choice..
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07-21-2011, 01:20 AM
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#656 | | I STILL don't get it
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Contrary to what Tag would make you think, they do not make their own watches, cell phones, or glasses.
Though they have a number of great watches in their line up, they are outsourced to the highest bidder and have the generic swiss movements put into them (nothing wrong with this). Unfortunately you will find similarities in design with such brands as Tissot, where a rebranded "Tag" version of the same watch is easily triple the price.
For this reason, 2nd hand Tags can be bought for a fraction of the retail price. If I could afford an entry level Tag brand new, I would get an Oris instead (considering today's market).
Also, please try not to base any purchase decision on "the watch snob." He is purely commentary but his suggestions are nonsensical. If he is suggesting a reader to ditch his Uboat and buy a Patek, that is pretty much the same as telling me to get rid of my Subaru and get a Maserati (or something worth 5x my car). A better comparison would be suggesting the reader to look at Sinn watches, as they are a tool watch, and carry a lot more cred than Uboat for the same price.
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07-21-2011, 01:58 AM
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Yeah, after his articles were mentioned on this thread I read a few of them and they are entertaining but I would take what he says with a grain of salt.
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07-21-2011, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by notjustforshow Contrary to what Tag would make you think, they do not make their own watches, cell phones, or glasses.
Though they have a number of great watches in their line up, they are outsourced to the highest bidder and have the generic swiss movements put into them (nothing wrong with this). Unfortunately you will find similarities in design with such brands as Tissot, where a rebranded "Tag" version of the same watch is easily triple the price.
. | Well they now have their own "in-house" movement with Cal. 1887, which is reasonably priced for an in-house movement (although some people saying buying Seiko's movement developing their movement with Seiko's designs doesn't count as an in-house movement). Also, some of their higher end pieces have the El Primero movement. Also, they've been making some new innovative stuff like the Mikograph, able to time to 1/100th of a second. Having said that I agree, there are better "bang for buck" watches (e.g. Oris, Frederique Constant, etc)
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07-21-2011, 11:19 PM
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#659 | | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by Jermyzy Well they now have their own "in-house" movement with Cal. 1887, which is reasonably priced for an in-house movement (although some people saying buying Seiko's movement developing their movement with Seiko's designs doesn't count as an in-house movement). Also, some of their higher end pieces have the El Primero movement. Also, they've been making some new innovative stuff like the Mikograph, able to time to 1/100th of a second. Having said that I agree, there are better "bang for buck" watches (e.g. Oris, Frederique Constant, etc) | ^Nice to have a watch fan here that follows these things.
Yah the bashing they received from the community such as TZ and WUS was anything but nice. Nothing wrong with Tag, but it may be more appropriate to say that there is nothing wrong with Heuer (remember those old school stopwatches??). I've owned a Tag previously, and sold it due to a certain golf star's reputation.
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07-26-2011, 10:54 AM
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07-26-2011, 11:05 AM
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#661 | | Hyde's Understudy
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^ its a "fashion" watch.
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07-26-2011, 10:26 PM
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#662 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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since we're talking about watches and movements, thought i'd throw this in here What watch companies still make their own movements?
thread about which companies still make their movements, what companies supply to who etc.
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07-27-2011, 10:51 AM
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Hey guys! I've got an old automatic Rado watch that my dad gave me when I was in HS and it isn't running anymore. Any suggestions for places to get it fixed?
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07-31-2011, 12:49 AM
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Bought me self an Omega PO  
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07-31-2011, 01:10 AM
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#665 | | My name is PJ and I like dogs.
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^Very nice.
Itching to get another..
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08-01-2011, 03:23 PM
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I have this incoming (Perrelet Split-Second Chrono Ratttrapante). Will post actual photos when it arrives  | |
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08-01-2011, 06:46 PM
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08-01-2011, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermyzy I have this incoming (Perrelet Split-Second Chrono Ratttrapante). Will post actual photos when it arrives | Will hold you to that promise of pics.
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08-04-2011, 12:29 AM
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08-04-2011, 12:53 AM
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^ replica meaning fake? A watch is 20k because of the movement, brand and materials etc. Why would you buy a fake? Posted via RS Mobile | |
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08-04-2011, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackZRoadster ^ replica meaning fake? A watch is 20k because of the movement, brand and materials etc. Why would you buy a fake? Posted via RS Mobile | Because of the design and its availability. Makes logical economic sense to me.
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08-04-2011, 10:44 AM
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^ do you wear fake designer clothing , leather goods etc? If you already do, then i dont see a problem with your choice because those all make financial sense to you.
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08-04-2011, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackZRoadster ^ do you wear fake designer clothing , leather goods etc? If you already do, then i dont see a problem with your choice because those all make financial sense to you. | I have some replica designer good and I have some genuine designer goods, I have some genuine car parts I have some replica car parts. It really depends on the product itself, the design and the options that are offered on the market.
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08-04-2011, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackygor I have some replica designer good and I have some genuine designer goods, I have some genuine car parts I have some replica car parts. It really depends on the product itself, the design and the options that are offered on the market. | dont get me wrong, i will use replica car parts. Example: There are fake AC lips out there for BMW, but they dont have the AC badge or emblem on it. They just copy the style but don't pretend they are the real thing.
But the Panerai you posted wasnt just copying the style, it's also got the Panerai logo on it. I have no problem wearing a shirt that has a similar design to a designer label. However, i wont wear a replicated style that's stamped with a logo that didnt make the product.
to each their own i guess
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08-04-2011, 11:44 AM
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#675 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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i think what jackygor posted were the originals, but there are some "replicas" out there that are just "homages" and don't have the logos. i could be wrong about his idea of a replica.
besides, why would anyone want to wear a replica watch. it can't keep time!
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but in replica, because the real one is 20k 
