Must.. not.. engage in replica convo..

For the Citizen, I'd go with #1.. I'm just really not into metal right now. I have a leather strap for my Rolex Sub coming in the mail :fullofwin:

I would actually prefer that, but I couldn't find a low priced watch similar to the design I wanted that wasn't a replica.

I don't like buying anything that's a fake, but I somewhat justify the fact that I own one with the knowledge that when I'm done school I'll buy an identical authentic.

Wow a 104 replica, man that looks pretty good for $400, but I can already spot 2 things that are dead giveaways even from 5 feet away. Of course $400 is like 10% of the real thing in second hand (no box and papers) market.

I'm not going to say anything about replicas other than that is pretty close. There are reasons why I'd never wear one, and also I can understand why others wear it, even if they can afford the genuine. My biggest beef is that some watch models are harder to sell or trade because of existing replicas.

If you are wondering what's wrong with it, the crystal's AR is wrong, the seconds subdial is wrong, cannon pinion is wrong. I only know this because I sold my 104 to get into the older series Panerai. I think the problem you will run into with the 104 is a lot of guys (relative to panerai owners) have it and its a big conversation piece. I had mine on sale for around $4200 for awhile and still couldn't move it, and I guess it's because of that really good looking replica :-(

Don't do it. Buy my real 104F, its got everything, and in great condition. We can meet face to face. PM me.

Very interesting.. did you ever sell your 104? I'm just entertaining the thought of selling mine and upgrading.

you must have the open 6 dial then...that is way better than the closed 6 they started using halfway through 104i

yes, I sold it and ended up downgrading to a 176 but then moved into the older series.

I don't like the hands on the 104, as well as the fact that I had a newer one with a closed 6 dial...

If at the time I had an open 6 dial I would have kept it...

Yes, its an open 6. It's funny because one girl said to me, "oh that's a cute watch, especially the cute 6"... :(

Hmm, I'll see how it goes. I really want a 312 or a 320 with in house movement. The good thing is that I can keep all of my straps and use it on the new one. Thanks!

Open 6 dial will probably appreciate, it is something a lot of Pam guys like since that is how the some A and pre-A models had it (along with the weird "2")

In house is really nice, especially since that is the direction Panerai is going as a company. There is an argument that the ETA models will actually increase in value but that maybe some ristis just praying their watches don't become worthless (not likely Pams will depreciate).

notjustforshow said it. watches are different than wallets or purses. when you buy one, other collectors/enthusiasts will want to see and talk about your watch. you're just gonna feel embarrassed trying to pretend that its real. or cheap admitting its not.

this is a really good point. i was also thinking the exact same thing.
i think im going to hold off buying that rep. My gf was going to buy it for my birthday present.

can anyone suggest a nice watch for $300-400?

A nice citizen or seiko! :)

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To name a few, some popular ones to check out are Seiko Divers (automatic), Tissot PRC200 and V8 (Quartz), and Citizen Eco-drives (runs off light).

There's a lot of budget-friendly choices with these highly respectable brands. You can't really go wrong. :)

The latch on the right, it is flimsy on all the replicas I've seen - the ones ranging from $50 to the $500 replicas.

Bulova Men's Diamond Black Watch

Anyone know where I can buy watch tool kit (tools for changing straps on watches) locally?

^I'd like to know too.. sorta. Not sure if it's worth the time and trouble though.
I just went to some random Chinese watch place and they changed mine for $5.

^ can you tell me where about is this Chinese watch place? The Bay does it for to 15 dollars

I just go to the retailer and they clean and size my watches for free.

Montecristo , lugaro Siba they all have no problem cleaning or resizing
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I went to one of those random watch kiosks in Metrotown lol
I think there's a place in Kingsgate that my brother went to too.

Lacy West Jewellery Tools and Supplies

Not the cheapest compared to online.

I think my bracelet pin changer was about $25. Was swiss made though.

My screwdrivers from there were about $80 for a set, which was cheap for what it was.

RPM there's a watch place next to the alterations on 2nd floor. 5$

Concept for future Tag Heuer watch:

Tag Heuer concept watch beats 3.6 million times per hour, $89,000 price tag gives heart palpitations -- Engadget

^Yeah, that was revealed a couple months ago, still pretty cool. I think the chronograph can only run for an hour or something though.

Feeler: Rolex GMT master II Pepsi, bought it in 2006, box and certificate included, 85% new.