Photo Lab Offtopic

[Volvoman]

So I have a D600 with an oily sensor. I'm going to be shooting some landscapes soon and will be shooting at f11. I decided to see just how bad my sensor was. This is at f22. yikes. I'm going to bring it into Nikon and see what they can do. This is just over 7k shutter count. I've used a blower but it doesn't help with oil.

[!MiKrofT]

Originally Posted by StylinRed

Hey did you guys hear the EOS M2 was announced in Japan for sale this month (in japan)

Canon's EOS M Interchangeable-Lens Camera Announced in Japan | Popular Photography | Popular Photography

Hmmm. Tempted. I can mount my Canon lenses on it.

[StylinRed]

i felt the eos m was too big when i had one (returned) so this being 8% smaller actually sounds interesting to me
i wonder if that 2.3X faster is based off of the firmware update or the original speed...probably original


i still havent decided between the 3n or nex6 :/ i like that the 3n is smaller/cheaper but i like the dials on the 6 and the screen (dont care for the evf or price) lol but still can't decide

[m3thods]

Originally Posted by StylinRed

i felt the eos m was too big when i had one (returned) so this being 8% smaller actually sounds interesting to me
i wonder if that 2.3X faster is based off of the firmware update or the original speed...probably original


i still havent decided between the 3n or nex6 :/ i like that the 3n is smaller/cheaper but i like the dials on the 6 and the screen (dont care for the evf or price) lol but still can't decide

Cheaper! lol like I said you can always upgrade down the road. It's better than feeling bad for spending extra on an eventual paperweight.

Besides, glass is where you should invest any extra money (not that the Nex has any goodies, but you can get an adapter for some legacy glass).

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by Volvoman

So I have a D600 with an oily sensor. I'm going to be shooting some landscapes soon and will be shooting at f11. I decided to see just how bad my sensor was. This is at f22. yikes. I'm going to bring it into Nikon and see what they can do. This is just over 7k shutter count. I've used a blower but it doesn't help with oil.

Mine is at Nikon now for the same thing but it's a bit less of an issue on mine. I just figured it's time to have Nikon take care of it under warranty and see what they wind up doing.

[Volvoman]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Mine is at Nikon now for the same thing but it's a bit less of an issue on mine. I just figured it's time to have Nikon take care of it under warranty and see what they wind up doing.

I just dropped it off this morning at the Richmond repair center. I spoke with the lady there, she said a typical sensor clean takes 3-5 business days, but if they decide to do more and replace parts, it could take up to three weeks. Just need it back in time for xmas day

[m3thods]

Given the publicity that this issue has garnered, I would've thought that it's an automatic repair and not just a sensor clean.

That said: I'm totally jelly of you Nikon guys being able to just drop off a camera at their repair depot.

[StylinRed]

I just found out that the package I sent back to Henry's for a refund wasn't the Nex6 like i planned but I had actually put the Nex3N in the mail instead -_-

bah I was certain I had checked to make sure that I didn't do that too -_- it was only now when I was going to play with the camera that I realized.

[!MiKrofT]

^LOL!

It'd be hilarious if they refunded you the Nex 6 price for your Nex 3N

[StylinRed]

i called them and they said they'd look out for it and ship it back they also gave me a return shipping label to send the correct unit back so that was nice

I had called Canada Post to see if they could intercept the package for me but they said they only do that if the police are involved

ah well, maybe i should just keep the nex6 maybe this was a sign /sigh

[LiquidTurbo]

Originally Posted by Volvoman

So I have a D600 with an oily sensor. I'm going to be shooting some landscapes soon and will be shooting at f11. I decided to see just how bad my sensor was. This is at f22. yikes. I'm going to bring it into Nikon and see what they can do. This is just over 7k shutter count. I've used a blower but it doesn't help with oil.

I know that feel bro.

Check out my sensor after only 500 shots. (edited to show the dust/debris)



However, since wet cleaning twice, problem has since went away.

[Ronin]

Wow...and this is just okay by Nikon? How are there not mass recalls?

[m3thods]

They released the D610 instead, which is "newer and better" in every sense. They just didn't mention that it possessed the fix for the D600 oily sensor issue.

As much as it irks me that they did it, I suppose it's not happening to everyone. Plus this way they leave the onus on the consumer (which again I don't condone, but I'm thinking that's their way of thinking). It's much more costly (in dollars and intangibles like reputation) to call for a recall. I would think that something like a recall is a last-resort for a corporation (unless there's the possibility of legal action, which in this case is likely nil).

[Hehe]

Any1 into the Nikon Df?

I just ordered one for the heck of it.

Gonna give it to my dad (an oldschool FE/FM Nikon fan who converted to Leica as he couldn't stand the modern DSLR design) if I don't like it enough.

[Ronin]

I tried it out at Broadway Camera recently. Meh. Not that impressed. It's still too big. If they made it actually the size of the FE, I'd be more interested but it's just a D4 with dials that doesn't record video.

So a big, fat "Meh."

[Ronin]

The worst part about that camera for me is the lack of video, not because it lacks video but I'm nearly sure that the only reason it doesn't have video is because it's blocked by the firmware. We've seen cameras like the 50D get hacked for video that it's actually had all along which leads me to believe that if live view exists, then video is possible.

I hate this weird idea that they have where somehow artificially crippling the camera makes it "pure". Seems like a bullshit cash-grab as they're seeing more and more people head to M43, NEX and Fuji.

[Hondaracer]

whats a good lense for travelling?

came upon this in the LD flyer:

Sigma 18-250mm F/3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS II Lens for Canon - OS18250MHC - London Drugs

is somthing like that decent as an all around lense or shjould you might as well just stick with the kit lense VS somthing like this?

budget would probably be max $500 for T4i

[Ronin]

I never recommend any of those zooms. Everyone I know that buys those things regrets it. No one uses them when they get some better gear. It's like throwing money in the toilet.

Lenses aren't cheap. Don't cheap out on them. Save up and buy a 24-105 for $700 and a 50 1.8. That's what I'd get if I was just starting.

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

whats a good lense for travelling?

came upon this in the LD flyer:

Sigma 18-250mm F/3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS II Lens for Canon - OS18250MHC - London Drugs

is somthing like that decent as an all around lense or shjould you might as well just stick with the kit lense VS somthing like this?

budget would probably be max $500 for T4i

As Ronin has said, I don't think those crappy megazoom lenses are worth the money.

It's convenient... but that's about it.

For $500 budget, I'd say, unless you really need the wide and telephoto end, pick a good prime and be done with it (35mm equivalent is my favorite).

Another option would be pick an used 24-105mm (can be had for less than 700 if you hunt around) or up your budget a bit further and get the new Sigma 24-105 F4 OS. On all review I read so far, it's an outstanding lens.

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by Ronin

I tried it out at Broadway Camera recently. Meh. Not that impressed. It's still too big. If they made it actually the size of the FE, I'd be more interested but it's just a D4 with dials that doesn't record video.

So a big, fat "Meh."

What I'm concerned is the build quality.

Does it feel solid when holding? If it's anything close to the original FM/FE or even old Leica, I'm sold.

The video doesn't bother me all that much as DSLR's video still has a long way to go before it makes any sense for dumb video taker like me.

[Senna4ever]

I shot with the Df extensively over the past 2 weekends, and I do like the IQ (D4 sensor DUH), and the way Live View is implemented is very smooth - like Canon. I'm not a fan of the retro controls, but for people who want a FF camera but don't need or want 36MP (lots of pro wedding shooters) its perfect. You'll eventually get used to the controls - I did.

Having said that, from our preliminary testing, the new Fuji XE2 has just as good IQ up to and including 6400 ISO at an even smaller form factor. Fuji lenses are pretty damn good, too.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by Hehe

What I'm concerned is the build quality.

Does it feel solid when holding? If it's anything close to the original FM/FE or even old Leica, I'm sold.

The video doesn't bother me all that much as DSLR's video still has a long way to go before it makes any sense for dumb video taker like me.

It did not. It doesn't have that feeling of quality, honestly. Most well built cameras are surprisingly heavy, too heavy for their size but this felt a little light. The original FE is a damn solid piece of metal and Leicas are tanks.

[Ronin]

If you want to save money, you shouldn't have gotten into Canon. Canon and Nikon have sat as kings of photography for so long that they've gotten lazy. None of their sub-$500 lenses are worth a damn while MFT, Sony and Fuji all have amazing glass for under that price. I shoot 80% of my stuff with three lenses: 24mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4, 85mm f1.8, which is probably about $2000 all together, most of which is the 24.

2014 is supposedly when Canon is releasing a lot of new lenses but I'm not holding my breath...and nothing they release will be cheap. Even the rumored 50mm f1.8 IS is probably $500.

Invest in good lenses. They'll lose very little value (you'll be able to sell them for almost what you paid) and the overall quality, feel and look is worth the money.

[LiquidTurbo]

Originally Posted by Ronin

If you want to save money, you shouldn't have gotten into Canon. Canon and Nikon have sat as kings of photography for so long that they've gotten lazy. None of their sub-$500 lenses are worth a damn while MFT, Sony and Fuji all have amazing glass for under that price. I shoot 80% of my stuff with three lenses: 24mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4, 85mm f1.8, which is probably about $2000 all together, most of which is the 24.

2014 is supposedly when Canon is releasing a lot of new lenses but I'm not holding my breath...and nothing they release will be cheap. Even the rumored 50mm f1.8 IS is probably $500.

Invest in good lenses. They'll lose very little value (you'll be able to sell them for almost what you paid) and the overall quality, feel and look is worth the money.

True, but only if you're a serious photographer. An average joe blow who want to casually snap pictures will do just fine with any kit lens.

[Ronin]

I don't think most of the guys in here fall in that category. I mean, they're on the Internet talking about photography...they have to be interested beyond the level where a 18-250 meets their needs.