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RacePace 03-12-2009 11:47 AM

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Tapioca 03-12-2009 12:36 PM

This is my third season and what I've noticed so far is that there are several teams recruiting. I think the recession has had a huge impact since the start-up costs can be somewhat daunting. Either that or other people have taken up other sports like running, MMA, yoga, ultimate frisbee, etc.

But as K-Dub has said, once you race, you get hooked. That 2 minutes makes months of seat pulls, tire drills, endurance drills, ass blisters, and core training worth it.

RacePace 03-12-2009 01:02 PM

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Tapioca 03-12-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminate (Post 6325673)
wow, you have to do all of those in practices?

Well, not necessarily all of these drills in the same practice, but at least a couple. Not all teams refer to these drills the same way that I have, but I would imagine that teams do similar types of drills. Here's a breakdown:

Endurance drill - paddling non-stop for an extended period of time, say 12-20 minutes. During one of these drills, you'll paddle at about 80% the majority of the time, with maybe a few bursts at 100% and a couple of minutes of 'active rest' at 50-60%. Most teams can paddle hard for 200-250 meters, but you need these drills for the typical 500m race.

Seat pull - paddling by row (1, 2, 3, etc.) so the coach can assess your individual abilities and so you can learn to paddle in time with your partner.

Tire drill - a tire is dragged by the boat to create resistance. This increases overall strength and endurance. This drill can be used in combination with seat pulls.

Core training - The optimum stroke requires use of your back, shoulders, and hips, so you can understand why strengthening the core is important. This type of training is not required, but coaches often encourage it to put you over the top when it gets closer to race season.

Ass blisters - if you have proper technique, you will develop a blister on your butt cheek. As you rotate your back, your outside leg 'drives' (or pushes) into the centre of the boat and thus creates friction between your butt and the seat.

RacePace 03-12-2009 01:55 PM

Thanks for being so informative, pretty interesting stuff, I think I'll definately give it a try

Tapioca 03-12-2009 02:14 PM

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Thanks for being so informative, pretty interesting stuff, I think I'll definately give it a try
It's unfortunate that our male roster is full because I would have definitely invited you out to one of our practices. On the other hand, if you happen to know any women who might be interested, PM me.

Check out the video on Dragonboat West's homepage - particularly around the 2 minute mark. That's an example of why dragonboating is such a great sport - boats and paddlers fighting until the end.

Alphamale 03-12-2009 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by K-Dub (Post 6325578)
I mean think bout it this way. You're in a boat with 20~ or so other people. You're all doing the same thing. No one stands out, there really is no I in this team, it's we.

Hell, it feels like you're going to war with the other boats when you're in a race. That's how intense it is. Once you've sat in the boat for your first race ever, you'll understand how exhilarating it is. The surges, the pure primal energy of the grunts that come with every stroke.

Communist.

Next thing you know, you'll be talking about the rise of the proletariat.

Filthy communist.

sho_bc 03-12-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminate (Post 6325587)
Cool, thanks for the great info. Yeah, the social aspect is probably the biggest draw for me. The fitness not so much since I go to the gym 4 days a week and do yoga 2 days currently, but I'd really like to see how I do. I'll keep my eyes on dragon boat west for openings.

To speak to how addictive it is, I've been "retired" since the end of 2007, and go to the gym in an effort to stay in shape. However, every day there is an inkling of sunshine, I CRAVE to be out on the water paddling. I miss the guys I paddled with a lot.

I promise you that after your first solid practice, your body will be in a world of hurt if you put effort and energy into it. Paddling uses much different muscle groups, most of them smaller muscle groups that 99% of people don't focus out in the gym. For me, if I were to hit the water today, I'd be sore after an hour or two of being on the water, and thats just from lack of using and working my paddling muscles for so long.

One of my friends is quite a bit stronger than me (thats an understatement) in the gym. However, put us in the water in outrigger canoes, and I'll paddle circles around him whether its sprinting or distance.

RacePace 03-12-2009 08:08 PM

Yeah, I totally understand that, I wouldn't expect to instantly become a top rower because of my gym strength. It'll probably take me a while to perfect the technique as well.

RacePace 05-07-2009 12:06 PM

So I'm in RGL now, excited bout my first race at the FCRCC regatta. Who's in what team this year?

sho_bc 05-07-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminate (Post 6413600)
So I'm in RGL now, excited bout my first race at the FCRCC regatta. Who's in what team this year?

Ooo, sorry to hear that. j/k They're an awesome bunch. If I wasn't so competitive, I'd be paddling with them. Make sure you go to all their fund-raising events, they're always a blast.

RacePace 05-07-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sho_bc (Post 6413630)
Ooo, sorry to hear that. j/k They're an awesome bunch. If I wasn't so competitive, I'd be paddling with them. Make sure you go to all their fund-raising events, they're always a blast.

They're probably a bit different than you remember. A lot of the old guard has gone and there's a lot of new people to the team. But the spirit has been maintained

TracerFX 05-08-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sho_bc (Post 6413630)
Ooo, sorry to hear that. j/k They're an awesome bunch. If I wasn't so competitive, I'd be paddling with them. Make sure you go to all their fund-raising events, they're always a blast.

i think the important thing to understand from this msg is to NOT miss the fundraising events coz of the RGL girls! lol

speaking of which, my friend is in RGL this year too, u should have plenty of fun in that team! enjoy the season to the fullest!

RacePace 05-08-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TracerFX (Post 6414913)
i think the important thing to understand from this msg is to NOT miss the fundraising events coz of the RGL girls! lol

speaking of which, my friend is in RGL this year too, u should have plenty of fun in that team! enjoy the season to the fullest!

*ahem*May 17th at Crush*ahem* We magically sold out of tickets in the past week

Seriously though, most of the girls are either taken or too old for me (I'm 25) or a combination of both lol. Eye candy is always nice though I guess

Tapioca 05-08-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Illuminate (Post 6413600)
So I'm in RGL now, excited bout my first race at the FCRCC regatta. Who's in what team this year?

RGL has always been a good team and you guys should be able to give a few of the other comp teams, like Magnum and Scotia Dragons, a good run for their money at the regatta. If you enjoy practice, just wait until you get a race or two under your belt...

My team won't be at the regatta, but we'll of course be there for the Alcan tune-up in early June. Look for us in the RED uniforms...

TracerFX 05-08-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Illuminate (Post 6414921)
Seriously though, most of the girls are either taken or too old for me (I'm 25) or a combination of both lol. Eye candy is always nice though I guess


lol, true dat. Eye candy is eye candy...cant be beat.

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 6414936)
If you enjoy practice, just wait until you get a race or two under your belt...

QFT! The feeling of being neck to neck with boats on both sides of you, while giving it ur all sorta gives you a feeling of being high from db adrenaline, trust me you will be addicted. Its pretty much a hate it or love it sport. You'd never see a guy who's been doing it for a while say 'its ok' when u ask them how they feel abt dragonboating.

btw, what team are you in Tapioca?

RacePace 05-08-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 6414936)
RGL has always been a good team and you guys should be able to give a few of the other comp teams, like Magnum and Scotia Dragons

I dunno how the coach feels, but I think we'll be looking over at Magnum seeing at how they placed 2nd in the Deep Cove 200m sprint a few weeks ago, and we beat them at Kelowna for 3rd. They practice 3 times a week though so they deserve to be there

Tapioca 05-08-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminate (Post 6415084)
I dunno how the coach feels, but I think we'll be looking over at Magnum seeing at how they placed 2nd in the Deep Cove 200m sprint a few weeks ago, and we beat them at Kelowna for 3rd. They practice 3 times a week though so they deserve to be there

Magnum is pretty hardcore and I think they're trying to give FCRCC a good run this year. However, they are on the smaller side which is why they were able to take 2nd an a 200m race. RGL has always been a heavier team and unless you guys lost a tonne of guys, you should be able to compete with the higher level Competitive teams at Alcan.

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btw, what team are you in Tapioca?
I'm managing Red Fusion this year.

RacePace 05-08-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 6415114)
Magnum is pretty hardcore and I think they're trying to give FCRCC a good run this year. However, they are on the smaller side which is why they were able to take 2nd an a 200m race. RGL has always been a heavier team and unless you guys lost a tonne of guys, you should be able to compete with the higher level Competitive teams at Alcan.

It's pretty impossible to match FCRCC with a regular club I think. Our coach is in FCRCC and he paddles 6-8 times a week just in hopes to make the team that's going to Prague. Yeah we did lose quite a few, our team is about 50% new paddlers (including myself). But we've started off better than we did last year (so I've heard), so I think we will probably aim for Comp B again.

sho_bc 05-09-2009 09:01 AM

Who is your guys' coach this year?

TracerFX 05-09-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 6415114)
they are on the smaller side

That's one of the things that drives us actually, to know that its all mental and not sheer power that wins races. I remember so many times last year when we would wait in line between HUGE teams (ie: sandwiched between Sudden Impact Black and Navy) and looking pretty damn small hahaha


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Originally Posted by Illuminate (Post 6415138)
It's pretty impossible to match FCRCC with a regular club I think. Our coach is in FCRCC and he paddles 6-8 times a week just in hopes to make the team that's going to Prague.

Yea being able to try running along with FCRCC is cool but they are definitely the hardcore of hardcores...i mean that many times on the water + gym + gf/wife/kids + full time job/school is harsh. That much time spent on the hardwork and maybe u wont even get to the A team? lol. it would be cool to try to qualify for the A team just for sake of the experience..

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Originally Posted by sho_bc (Post 6416078)
Who is your guys' coach this year?

no change from last year

sho_bc 05-09-2009 11:12 AM

Sorry, I was out of province last year. The last coach I know of is Darwin. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post it here.

As for being the "hardcore of hardcore", it was a huge trade-off for me for the years I was paddling with FCRCC. Working full-time and it being shift work, I found it difficult to juggle work, paddling, the gym, friends, and family. As a result, I cut back on "friend and family time". In the long run, being able to race in the Club Crews and the Worlds was an awesome experience. They're an awesome group of men and women who are very passionate about what they do and to have been able to be as fast as them on the water was something I didn't think was possible when I first started paddling. It took/takes a lot of sacrifice to get to that level and honestly, I'm enjoying my free time this year. ;) I was asked to come back for some of the larger races, but my work schedule is working against me on each one this year. Maybe next year?

RacePace 05-09-2009 03:03 PM

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sho_bc 05-09-2009 06:54 PM

Australia was an awesome experience, no doubt about it. To race amongst the world's best with what was essentially a Club Crew and put in a decent showing (despite what some of the paddlers out east seem to think) was a thrill I can't describe.

I didn't have an understanding girlfriend in the lead-up to Australia, and things ended between us in the months prior to leaving. That left me lots more free time for paddling. :D Right now, my job is what's holding me back from committing to a team and more specifically, to FCRCC.

RacePace 05-09-2009 08:51 PM

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