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09-15-2008, 10:38 PM
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09-15-2008, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by clowe  Wow, Jokinen, Cammalleri and Brunnstrom? | that's assuming that Florida + LA will deal with Nonis
i highly doubt he had these deals confirmed...it's more like what he wanted to do
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09-15-2008, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stuff99 From the Province:
Nonis vs. Gillis: Go ahead, second guess
Are they new and improved or would things be better under old regime?
Ed Willes, The Province
Published: Monday, September 15, 2008
After a two-month hiatus, which probably wasn't long enough for a lot of you, we proudly present the return of the Monday morning musings and meditations on the world of sport.
- Canucks GM Mike Gillis has said he isn't finished building his team and, with $10 million in cap space, he has the freedom to move in a couple of different directions. But it will also be interesting to compare what Gillis does with the plan Dave Nonis had laid out before he was fired.
Nonis told Canucks' ownership he would add three forwards and let Markus Naslund go through free agency. Swedish free agent Fabian Brunnstrom was committed to signing with the Canucks. Nonis was also going to trade the Canucks' first-round draft pick this summer, which probably would have landed the Kings' Mike Cammalleri. And he was going to move a defenceman, likely Kevin Bieksa, and/or prospects for another proven scorer. Hello, Olli Jokinen.
Gillis, for his part, has improved the Canucks' fourth line and added Pavol Demitra and Steve Bernier while losing Naslund and Brendan Morrison. As mentioned, he said he isn't finished but the Canucks with Brunnstrom, Cammalleri and another top-six forward would be causing a lot more excitement in this market than their current lineup. |
More like Nonis would have resigned Naslund, kept Mo and beefed up our 3rd and 4th lines similar to what Gilis has already done. How many seasons did we go through where Nonis was supposed to make that big trade and it never happen. Nonis had an entire season fall apart in front him but he decided to sit on his hands and do nothing about it and this reporter comes around and acts like Nonis was the knight in shining armor? Please.
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09-15-2008, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jah More like Nonis would have resigned Naslund, kept Mo and beefed up our 3rd and 4th lines similar to what Gilis has already done. How many seasons did we go through where Nonis was supposed to make that big trade and it never happen. Nonis had an entire season fall apart in front him but he decided to sit on his hands and do nothing about it and this reporter comes around and acts like Nonis was the knight in shining armor? Please. | To Nonis's defense he wasn't able to do much..If it was a trade during last season the price would have been really high. I don't really like the idea of throwing away the Canucks future like Hodgson, Edler or Schneider for a quick exit in the 1st round. I'd rather have a team that can last a couple rounds then one year getting into the 1st round and then the next 3 are rebuilding mode because we traded away all our prospects and picks.
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09-15-2008, 11:36 PM
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#2505 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline To Nonis's defense he wasn't able to do much..If it was a trade during last season the price would have been really high. I don't really like the idea of throwing away the Canucks future like Hodgson, Edler or Schneider for a quick exit in the 1st round. I'd rather have a team that can last a couple rounds then one year getting into the 1st round and then the next 3 are rebuilding mode because we traded away all our prospects and picks. |
Well I agree he couldn't do much but I still think he had a market to trade Naslund. I was reading today that Wild were interested in signing Naslund and it makes you wonder what if Nonis could have traded Nazzy for Gaborik last season.
I can't say i'm jumping for joy with the moves Gillis has made so far but I'll reserve my comments about Gillis' performance for December when we should have a good idea were the team is at as far as the standings and offensive output goes.
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09-15-2008, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jah Well I agree he couldn't do much but I still think he had a market to trade Naslund. I was reading today that Wild were interested in signing Naslund and it makes you wonder what if Nonis could have traded Nazzy for Gaborik last season.
I can't say i'm jumping for joy with the moves Gillis has made so far but I'll reserve my comments about Gillis' performance for December when we should have a good idea were the team is at as far as the standings and offensive output goes. | I hope you are joking when you say Nazzy for Gaborik. First of all they are in the same division. Second of all, Nonis would have add half the canucks roster for the Wild to even glance at the deal. Third of all, its fucking insane.
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09-16-2008, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline I hope you are joking when you say Nazzy for Gaborik. First of all they are in the same division. Second of all, Nonis would have add half the canucks roster for the Wild to even glance at the deal. Third of all, its fucking insane. |
I think the Canucks had a chance with Naslund + another roster player. I don't know what the relationship was between Gaborik and the Wild during the season but right now their sure looking at offers to get rid of him and it was reported that the Wild tried their hardest to lure Marian Hossa, Markus Naslund and/or Kristian Huselius but couldn't.
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09-16-2008, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jah I think the Canucks had a chance with Naslund + another roster player. I don't know what the relationship was between Gaborik and the Wild during the season but right now their sure looking at offers to get rid of him and it was reported that the Wild tried their hardest to lure Marian Hossa, Markus Naslund and/or Kristian Huselius but couldn't. | Once again I hope you are joking. Nazzy + roster player wouldn't even fetch us Mikko Koivu.
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09-16-2008, 12:09 AM
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#2509 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline Once again I hope you are joking. Nazzy + roster player wouldn't even fetch us Mikko Koivu. |
The Wild sure thought Naslund would help them offensively so I guess he had some sort of value. Quote:
The uncertain future of Marian Gaborik could become a distraction for the Wild if it is not resolved in short order.
The Minnesota Wild emerged from the tightly-packed and ultra-balanced Northwest Division to finish first last season for the first time in franchise history, but that accomplishment didn’t go very far in helping the offseason recruiting effort.
The Wild have their defense-first, counter-attack system set under respected coach Jacques Lemaire, but Minnesota also had designs on improving on its ability to score and shore up a couple areas that slipped last season.
What did and didn’t get done in the offseason is greeted with mixed reviews.
According to reports, Minnesota shot pretty high, hoping to lure Marian Hossa, Markus Naslund and/or Kristian Huselius to fortify an attack that lost Brian Rolston, Pavol Demitra and Todd Fedoruk, among others. Those efforts fell short. And while the Wild did acquire Owen Nolan, Andrew Brunette and Antti Miettinen, the general feeling is the Wild will be fortunate to improve upon their 18th-place average of 2.68 goals per contest.
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09-16-2008, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jah The Wild sure thought Naslund would help them offensively so I guess he had some sort of value. | reading comprehension ftl.
minny was interested in signing naslund, a free agent this summer. that in no way means there was any interest in trading gaborik for naslund + anything.
making it nazzy + luongo for gaborik, that'd be about the only way that was going down. or something equally dumb like adding in edler and two 1st rounders.
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09-16-2008, 12:53 AM
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#2511 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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Originally Posted by Hot Karl reading comprehension ftl.
minny was interested in signing naslund, a free agent this summer. that in no way means there was any interest in trading gaborik for naslund + anything.
making it nazzy + luongo for gaborik, that'd be about the only way that was going down. or something equally dumb like adding in edler and two 1st rounders. |
The point I was trying to make was the Wild obviously had interest in Naslund even before the offseason and Gaborik hasn't been happy in Minnesota for a while now so who knows maybe we could have landed Gaborik in Vancouver using Naslund. And I’m too lazy to search this but I'm pretty sure we had trade rumors about Gabroik wanting to play in Vancouver late last season as well.
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Camrose Prosepct Tournament or as the Flamer fans called it "Calgary prospects vs The Gillis plan C club". Quote:
Grabner steals show in loss
Iain MacIntyre, Vancouver Sun
Published: Monday, September 15, 2008
CAMROSE, Alta. - He could have had five goals Monday night, but Michael Grabner settled for two.
Still, it was a good start - and a better one that most teammates had as the Vancouver Canuck rookies were beaten 6-3 by the Calgary Flames in a prospects game.
Grabner, the 2006 first-rounder with the turbo wheels, should star at this level. So he did what was expected.
Daniel Rahimi did more - or at least, differently - than he was expected. And that's a National Hockey League training camp in a snapshot: elite prospects trying to validate their status, and longshots pushing themselves from their comfort zone to get noticed.
Rahimi, the 21-year-old Swede of Iranian descent, had one of the game's biggest hits and initiated a fight with Flames' prospect Ryley Grantham, who had 163 penalty minutes in Moose Jaw last season.
Grabner, on a lively line with Dan Gendur and 2008 first-rounder Cody Hodgson, initiated a Canuck comeback in the second period.
The inexperience of the lineups was reflected in the jersey numbers, which read like Fahrenheit temperatures across the Prairies on Monday. Even the coaches would admit they need videotape to accurately assess how everyone did.
But nobody had a worse night than Vancouver goalie Julien Ellis, whose career as a Canuck started in tears and hasn't improved much since the 2005 draft.
Ellis, among the first batch of cuts from main camp last year, suffered what appeared to be a serious lower leg injury in the third period and could not finish the game.
"I hurt it down here," the 22-year-old said despondently as he gently touched the back of his right ankle. "I heard a snap."
Canuck coach Alain Vigneault, who watched from the stands while minor-league coach Scott Arniel ran the bench, said the injury didn't look good but an X-ray would be required to asess it.
It didn't take an X-ray to know that Grabner was the best Canuck and best player on the ice in the middle part of the game.
He helped get Vancouver into the game when he swept in the rebound from Gendur's shot at 1:20 of the second period, and briefly lifted the Canucks into a 3-3 tie late in the frame when he squeezed the puck past Flames' goalie Matt Keetley from a sharp angle after a terrific burst of speed down right wing. Grabner also was stopped on a breakaway by Keetley and fired point-blank over the net after a setup by Hodgson.
"Both teams have some very young guys, very inexperienced kids out there," Vigneault said. "[Grabner] should stand out, and in the second period he did. He's going into his second year. He has got to come into these situations here and be an impact player. He was the best player on the ice in the second period. That's what we expect out of him."
Arniel, who helped nurture Grabner through an erratic first season in the American League last year, said he has seen a more confident player since the Canucks opened their rookie camp on Saturday.
"He's a year older and feels like he's not a rookie anymore," Arniel said of the winger who turns 21 on Oct. 5. "He feels a little more comfortable. I think him coming here seven weeks early and skating with a lot of regular Canuck guys, he's feeling like he fits in a little bit more. Last year, he looked a little out of place. We saw the confidence on the ice tonight."
Grabner, Hodgson and Gendur were plus-two in a three-goal loss, which was impressive.
"I think we played really well together," Grabner said. "Cody's a really good playmaking centre. You can see it: he has a really good eye to see the opening through sticks and skates. He's easy to get the puck from."
Vigneault cited defenceman Yann Sauve, a second-round pick in June, when asked which players impressed him.
Another blueliner drafted in the second round, Taylor Ellington (2007), also made some strong plays in the defensive zone.
Defenceman Patrick Coulombe, who nearly made Vigneault's team as a free agent from junior two years ago and is one of the oldest players at 23, did not distinguish himself.
Rahimi did, if only for his willingness to stand in and absorb punches from one of the Flames' toughest prospects.
"I'm not that good of a player, so I have to do something else," Rahimi smiled. "I want to show everyone that I'm willing to do everything, even the things I'm not really good at, to make it as far as possible."
Arniel, who coached Rahimi last season in Manitoba, said: "It's funny because Danny had one fight last year and it was with one of the toughest guys in the league. He wants to prove to people he can play all different kinds of games. This is what you want kids to do - you want them to compete. When they're trying hard to get to next week's camp, they maybe go out of character sometimes. And that's what Danny did."
The Canucks' main training camp begins Saturday in Whistler. Vancouver's kids play here again Tuesday night against the Edmonton Oiler prospects.
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09-16-2008, 05:51 AM
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i really think the Canucks should have gone after players like Brian Campbell, Olli Jokinen, Mike Callamari, even Brian Rolston was up for grabs too and hells even gotten burt back for cheapo price! Except they holding out for that asshole Mats Sundin - there boners for Swedes is so hard and long, they willing to wait forever and ever for him. He never will come to Vancouver, so they just hoping by offering him $10 Million, he will bite like a whore, except this whore is ready to retire, so he not having any of it.
If Sundin doesn't make it here, and by Xmas, Canucks suck ass...they should just go balls out crap, and try to finish last, so they can get Tavares as their draft pick. We need someone from the draft that we can build on. Canucks have no one from draft pics that ever made it or become baller, except for Bure.
There best draft pick lately dropped dead on a motorcycle.
So perhaps if we have a crap team, we should just man up and take one for the team and suckfest it the rest of the season, so we can get one of the best top-prospects since Sidney Crosby.
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09-16-2008, 06:33 AM
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Become baller?
Did I seriously just read that?
You think purposely blowing the season would be manning up? Think about that one for more than 1 second, which you obviously didn't do as you were typing.
And have some respect for Luc Bourdon.
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09-16-2008, 09:01 AM
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Does anyone like Sanford's new mask? just seems like a rip off of Toskala (sp)'s mask heh.
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09-16-2008, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ZZT231_R i really think the Canucks should have gone after players like Brian Campbell, Olli Jokinen, Mike Callamari, even Brian Rolston was up for grabs too and hells even gotten burt back for cheapo price! Except they holding out for that asshole Mats Sundin - there boners for Swedes is so hard and long, they willing to wait forever and ever for him. He never will come to Vancouver, so they just hoping by offering him $10 Million, he will bite like a whore, except this whore is ready to retire, so he not having any of it.
If Sundin doesn't make it here, and by Xmas, Canucks suck ass...they should just go balls out crap, and try to finish last, so they can get Tavares as their draft pick. We need someone from the draft that we can build on. Canucks have no one from draft pics that ever made it or become baller, except for Bure.
There best draft pick lately dropped dead on a motorcycle.
So perhaps if we have a crap team, we should just man up and take one for the team and suckfest it the rest of the season, so we can get one of the best top-prospects since Sidney Crosby. |
Bombing a season is just retarded. Poor sportsmanship, and unless you want the Canucks to look like the joke of the league, I wouldn't recommend it. I, for one, would be extremely pissed if it happened. Going for Sundin was a gamble. If he had signed for Canucks, no fan or reporter would be questioning Gillis, and Canucks would be considered a lot more complete. The only thing proven so far is Gillis has the balls to do something. I really don't think Nonis would of done much better. Besides unofficially locking down Fabian Bruunstrom (who probably isn't anywhere as good as his hype), I don't see any loss by Nonis' firing.
What we should worry more about is how AV is gonna coach the new team. You can have all the offensive players you want, but if AV doesn't put more offense in his game, the players aren't going to put more offense in their game. Quote:
Originally Posted by HachiSix Does anyone like Sanford's new mask? just seems like a rip off of Toskala (sp)'s mask heh. | hmm... similar concept, but I'm sure it won't look anything alike once colours are added on. Lol, the one done in pencil wins, cause now the painter is not restricted to following the original designer's colour scheme. haha
Sanford 
Toskala 
The mask is pretty cool, but too bad Luongo's gonna be playing like 90% of the games. haha
They should make a contest to design Sanford's cap instead, so you can see it when he's on the bench.
lololol, Sanford should of went with these designs. The second one's the best one I've seen yet.
If I was the other team, I would be LOL-ing so hard, I wouldn't be able to shoot. 
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09-16-2008, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ZZT231_R i really think the Canucks should have gone after players like Brian Campbell, Olli Jokinen, Mike Callamari, even Brian Rolston was up for grabs too and hells even gotten burt back for cheapo price! Except they holding out for that asshole Mats Sundin - there boners for Swedes is so hard and long, they willing to wait forever and ever for him. He never will come to Vancouver, so they just hoping by offering him $10 Million, he will bite like a whore, except this whore is ready to retire, so he not having any of it.
If Sundin doesn't make it here, and by Xmas, Canucks suck ass...they should just go balls out crap, and try to finish last, so they can get Tavares as their draft pick. We need someone from the draft that we can build on. Canucks have no one from draft pics that ever made it or become baller, except for Bure.
There best draft pick lately dropped dead on a motorcycle.
So perhaps if we have a crap team, we should just man up and take one for the team and suckfest it the rest of the season, so we can get one of the best top-prospects since Sidney Crosby. |
this kid is an idiot..become "baller"???
have some respect for LUC
take your grade 8 education somewhere else....
are all internet forums being trolled by half retarded monkey's these days?
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09-16-2008, 10:21 AM
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#2517 | | Say NO to blade grinders!
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Originally Posted by ynot-llat this kid is an idiot..become "baller"???
have some respect for LUC
take your grade 8 education somewhere else....
are all internet forums being trolled by half retarded monkey's these days? | Members from the CDC are migrating over maybe lol!
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09-16-2008, 11:44 AM
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Keep it up, buddy. I'm THIS close to banning you altogether.
There will be no disrespect for Luc Bourdon in this forum.
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Schneider waived by Ducks, guess Burke couldn't find takers to unload him too without taking back salary. I guess we can expect Selanne to resign soon now.
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09-16-2008, 12:23 PM
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i havent done the math with regards to the buyout penalty, but i'm quite sure the ducks will still be too close to the cap to resign selanne, unless it's for dirt cheap.
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wow I can't believe hes going for nothing.
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I guess no one is willing to take on his big chunk of salary for a guy that's passed his prime a while ago
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wow burke is the biggest retard. ever.
bryzgalov. mcdonald for weight. now schneider.
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This is looking good for us.
If what was said in the other pages were true then all we have to do is pick up Shneider, trade Bieksa for a top 6 forward and we're set! Nothing like picking up a top 6 or even top 3 defencemen for free!
Question: If we pick up Shneider, do the Ducks still have to pay for part of his contract or do we pay for 100% of his huge contract?
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