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Old 10-21-2008, 05:25 PM   #4251
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:26 PM   #4252
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:28 PM   #4255
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:30 PM   #4256
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How many more games until Vigneault gets canned?
lol, I was pondering about that myself this morning, thinking if Canucks lose again tonight, it's gonna look pretty bad. But they have their "excuses." Long road trip, tired, few key guys injured, etc.

But if Canucks keep losing, only one guy the organization can get rid of, and that's AV.

And seriously, Wellwood's not that bad.
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the canucks just needed to capitalize ONCE on all those chances....
is it just me or sedins need to change their style.
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toronto seems more exciting to watch then the canucks.
I hate the laffs but seems like a better game lol
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:33 PM   #4259
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:34 PM   #4260
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Leclaire was the gamebreaker tonight.

I thought Bieksa played especially good in the 3rd period holding the line and jumping up into the play.

Bernier needs to learn how to roof it. Many of his chances have been saved because he fails to lift the puck.

Wellwood contributed tonight, and has hopefully earned himself an opportunity to play another game. Once again, his conditioning may suck, but his puck skill and vision are among the best on our team.

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imo AV getting canned will be based more on the performance of the PP and PK then actually winning games

his seat will be getting hotter and hotter if they continue to strugle on special teams
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:44 PM   #4262
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Hey at least we're seeing more goal scoring now, even if it is going the other way
Wonder if this'll turn into another 4+GA game.
+1. Our checking line is really stepping up big.

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He shouldn't. Canucks played well and if any of those Kesler/Bernier chances went in, it would've been a totally different game. It's just that Leclair was making those unbelievable saves that Luongo should have been doing.

We lost because we gave up 2 goals quick. That's all, the rest of our game is fine.

IMO Luongo should actually step up and take responsibility. Although some of his goals were a result of defensive breakdowns. But IMO, what should define one as an elite goaltender, is the ability to step up on those breakdowns, as opposed to goalie's dependence on their defense not making a mistake.

I'm also quite tired of the excuses people have for Luongo and his mediocrity. Last year was his wife's pregnancy, this year it seems people give him a pass as he saying he's just a slow starter. I wish this guy can just admit he sucks, take off that veil of elite goaltender, and start working on his game as if he was a Junior trying to earn a spot again. The guy's got in in him. It's just when will we see it again, and will it show up more often than not?

Excuses have start stopping, and so do the free passes. Or else the only time we'll see his good games are when the stars above are lining up and everything is going his way.

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the canucks just needed to capitalize ONCE on all those chances....
is it just me or sedins need to change their style.
I somewhat agree with this as well. Though not fully. The Sedins only have 1 game they're good at and it's always the same thing over and over again. They set up a play behind the net and start looking for opportunities in front of the net.

What I don't like is that they can't adjust or change the dynamics of their game once the opposing defense shuts down the area in front of the net and ties up our guys in front. They still throw it out there even though there's no recepient of the pass and just wish someone lucks out.
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is it just me or sedins need to change their style.
Well, you can't really change Sedin's style. That's how they have always played. The cycle game and not much physical hitting/checking. They battle decently along the boards, and they make crazy good passes. But sometimes I question their ability on deciding when to shoot or pass. I mean, I know I'm nowhere even close to being as good as either Sedins or anyone on the team for that matter, so I'm not saying I'm better than them before anyone starts critcizing me. But really, I do wish they would just go in sometimes, especially when they are on a counterattack rush, instead of holding up once they past the blue line to wait for reinforcement, just go and challenge the defender on the foot race and shoot.

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IMO Luongo should actually step up and take responsibility. Although some of his goals were a result of defensive breakdowns. But IMO, what should define one as an elite goaltender, is the ability to step up on those breakdowns, as opposed to goalie's dependence on their defense not making a mistake.

I'm also quite tired of the excuses people have for Luongo and his mediocrity. Last year was his wife's pregnancy, this year it seems people give him a pass as he saying he's just a slow starter. I wish this guy can just admit he sucks, take off that veil of elite goaltender, and start working on his game as if he was a Junior trying to earn a spot again. The guy's got in in him. It's just when will we see it again, and will it show up more often than not?

Excuses have start stopping, and so do the free passes. Or else the only time we'll see his good games are when the stars above are lining up and everything is going his way.

Luongo has been playing piss poor for a superstar goaltender. I do believe these excuses are pretty lame, although you have to remember it's really the media's excuses, not his own. I'm sure Luongo knows it himself, that he has to step it up. I just hope he picks it up soon. He had some nice saves in the third period. I'm sure he will bounce back, but as a Canuck fan, and as the team is on a slump, I'm getting impatient and can't wait until Luongo starts playing how he normally does.
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It was a decent game. LeClaire was definitely the difference. Luongo did well in the third, but LeClaire was even better. Their luck will change and pucks will start to go in.
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They were on the PK 3+ years ago (when they weren't the top line).

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gaborik is a gamebreaker. sundin is a clutch player. something the canucks dont have. honestly, either type of player is what the canucks desperately need.

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Man, this guy, lazy but skilled. As the coach, what do you do?! So much potential!
i remember some guy calling into pratt & taylor comparing wellwood and pyatt. his reasoning was, pyatt doesn't hit, neither does wellwood. pyatt doesnt backcheck, neither does wellwood. pyatt doesn't go to the net, neither does wellwood. pyatt can't score...WELLWOOD CAN!! PUT HIM IN! it was pyatt bashing at its best. i lol'd

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wasn't that 3 seasons ago? sedins haven't PK'd since luongo came. it was actually kesler/burrows
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gaborik is a gamebreaker. sundin is a clutch player. something the canucks dont have. honestly, either type of player is what the canucks desperately need.
Listening to Bob McKenzie on Rick Ball today, speculation is Gaborik to Montreal, as Minnesota would be highly unlikely to trade him to another Western team, and definitely not a NW rival.

And I'm thinking, Montreal was interested in Sundin too...

So imagine Sundin ends up here by Christmas and we trade him straight across for Gaborik...
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