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01-20-2009, 10:59 PM
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Don't press the panic just yet...
Loss stung indeed! Those first couple games after the all star break will be very important....Having Salo back was huge!
If they play better...they will get puck luck....they can do it...
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01-21-2009, 06:28 AM
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Honestly it was a good game we just need to better and shoot more often
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01-21-2009, 06:40 AM
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it was a good game up until nabakov was pulled. That breakaway that sundin had, if only he had roofed it, easier said then done i know. Also that penalty that they gave sedin was bs. Canucks have 1 week to get their shit together. It was nice having salo back
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01-21-2009, 07:06 AM
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Man... I know Nabby had Sundin beat... but to me, you pay your star players to be stars and they are supposed to score big goals when you need them... that was 100% fail on Sundin's part not to score at the exact time you buy a player like him for.
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01-21-2009, 07:14 AM
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I thought they played the type of game they needed to against San Jose. It sucks it ended the way it did but compared to the way they've been playing lately I felt a bit better about it.
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01-21-2009, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dL  And we have more regulation goals than the Sharks this season :P
dL | Actually it was Pyatt's goal that gave us the one goal lead over the Sharks. The tying goal not only tied the game but it also tied the Canucks with regulation goals
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01-21-2009, 09:17 AM
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hard to say if the game last night boost the confidence of of the team or not, but if they continue to play like this, great chance entering playoff.
They need to be consistant, play its own role and handling the puck well.
cheers !
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01-21-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hotjoint Also that penalty that they gave sedin was bs. | I thought the penalty was fine. He had the stick up on the guys' arm/hand. It was just unfortunate that the refs saw it and the player did a good job adding to it. (Moving his body sideways)
It was a good game overall but as everyone said here...the team played the protect the lead pretty much the whole game after we scored which will not work against the team that has the calibre of the sharks. And it was defnitely nice to have salo back!! hope he stays healthy the rest of the way.
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01-21-2009, 09:35 AM
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I think last night's game was decent. To almost beat the best team in the NHL on their turf with their home record so far this season, is not too shabby.
It could have easily been 2-0 a couple of times. The effort was good.
So, do some teams/players take the time off during the All Star Break or do they hold practices?
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01-21-2009, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic I think last night's game was decent. To almost beat the best team in the NHL on their turf with their home record so far this season, is not too shabby.
It could have easily been 2-0 a couple of times. The effort was good.
So, do some teams/players take the time off during the All Star Break or do they hold practices? | I thought Lu's play throughout the game was what kept the team in it imo. The forwards needed help and need to start finishing off their chances. 14 shots on net is not going to win any games. Once SJ woke up in the 3rd, they were scrambling!
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01-21-2009, 11:22 AM
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well think in OT the refs screwed up they shouldve blown the play dead when luongo was down and had the puck covered but sharks players kept on poking and got the puck out which eventually led up to the game winning goal
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01-21-2009, 01:07 PM
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^at the same time, I don't think it would of been such a big deal because we all know once canucks let in that tying goal with 40 sec left, it would be a OTL (or SO Loss) for canucks.
I figured Canucks wouldn't be able to go for the empty netter either. Not against the Sharks offensive calibre and when there's 6 forwards in the Canucks' zone. I predicted it was either going to be 1-0 W for Canucks or they will lose.
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01-21-2009, 04:42 PM
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back in 2007... (Messing with the net sizes) http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/...urn=nhl,135828 Quote:
Shhhh ... no one tell Roberto Luongo that the NHL is monkeying around with widening the nets again.
Please recall that the Vancouver Canucks goalie famously threatened in 2007 to quit the NHL if the League decided to expand the size of the scoring area behind him. From the Vancouver Province in Sept. '07:
"I've been working 20 years at a game I love trying to improve myself and to start over from square one is not something I'm interested in," Luongo said at today's morning skate. "It changes everything for the goalie and it doesn't, in my mind, bring more excitement to the game if the nets are bigger and guys score from the blueline."
Granted, much of the scuttlebutt back then involved a "soccer-sized" increase between the pipes, which some believed was a scare tactic floated to get the NHLPA to decrease the size of goalie equipment as the lesser of two evils. But the less extreme idea of changing the size and shape of the goalposts in juice scoring has been kicked around since 2005, when goalies like Marty Turco and Martin Brodeur were shown prototypes.
That concept was on display yesterday at the Toronto Maple Leafs practice; where, in what must be a total coincidence, a slew of reporters from the hockey media's most influential newspapers just so happened to be working. The League described the goal as having posts with "a 'teardrop' shape, like the rim of a paper coffee cup that has been squeezed."
The results were intriguing for those who believe more scoring means better hockey, and naturally depressing for the puckheads who don't believe big numbers in the box score and the leader board do anything to enhance the game's entertainment.
Which leads us back to a debate that's once again on the front burner: Should the NHL increase the size and change the dimensions of its nets to juice scoring?
First, from the Globe & Mail, here are the specifics on the goal that was tested, with a few comments from Anaheim Ducks goaltending coach François Allaire, who came up with the concept nearly five years ago:
The prototype is still six feet wide and four feet high, but instead of circular posts, the net tested has oval-shaped posts with the flatter, longer side positioned on the inside of the goal. The belief is when pucks hit these posts or crossbar, they have a better chance ricocheting in for a goal, instead of bounding out. ...
... "I don't have any official stats, but I would say one out of every four shots that beat a goalie but hit the inside of the post bounces in rather than straight out," Allaire explained. "If we can cut the posts in half and have a flat surface turned inward, you would see more goals. This would make the net bigger by about two inches on the width and an inch on the height. ... It would not take away from the skill of a goaltender, but would reward the shooter for beating the goalie."
As the Globe pointed out, the net at Leafs' practice was a tad different than Allaire's concept because "instead of a totally flat surface on the inward part of the post, there still is some curve to the post."
The Toronto Star had reactions from NHL VP of hockey operations Mike Murphy and Leafs goalie Curtis Joseph, who has a few years of experience playing goal on a professional level with a regulation net:
The initial reaction, from Murphy and Leafs goalie Curtis Joseph, is that pucks off the crossbar were indeed likely to go in but shots off the post didn't necessarily react in the same way. Some pucks that might have gone in off the rounded posts seemed to stay out at certain angles.
Joseph said he noticed more shots were going in on the short side but fewer on the far side, where pucks tended to kick out toward the boards. "It's just a guess. You'd have to shoot a thousand pucks (to get a true reading)," he said. "The jury's out."
A possibility now, said Murphy, might be to experiment with "a combination of leaving the posts round but changing the crossbar only. We'll look at it and see if it is worth moving forward with."
There are plenty of these procedural debates among NHL officials, players, media and fans: fighting, head-shots, obstruction and the like. The bigger-nets debate has been an interesting one because the battle lines aren't as clearly drawn.
Sure, from a purist's perspective, the notion of tinkering with the size of the scoring area is a mortal sin at this stage of the game's development.
It's a fundamental altering of the sport, akin to the NFL shortening the field by 10 yards or the NBA increasing the size of the rim.
Then again ... rule book, schmule book. In case you haven't noticed, there have been a few changes since they started tabulating the stats in hockey. How do you think that Gretzky fellow would have fared in 4-on-4 overtimes with the 1980s Edmonton Oilers?
If it comes down to what the players' want ... well, just look at what Matt Bradley of the Washington Capitals wrote this summer in our "5 Ways I'd Change the NHL" series:
2. Make the nets bigger. With the size of goalies and their equipment now, sometimes you look up and there's not much net to shoot at. Some of us can't always hit the part of the net we see. Make'em bigger and there will be a little more margin for error.
Those in favor of larger nets have a simple premise: Everything else in the game has been changed for the benefit of offense expect for the goal cages, which have remained static even as goalies and their equipment have had less in common with Terry Sawchuk and more resemble the Stay-Puft Marshmallow man.
Those against larger nets also have a basic philosophy: It's not about the goals.
Good hockey means good offensive flow, with back and forth scoring chances. Widening the nets will turn a 3-2 game into a 5-4 game, but so what? If it's still NHL hockey with clogged neutral zones, big players crushing skill players and more defensive systems than offensive flair, a few more goal horns doesn't change that. Perhaps widening the ice surface, rather than the nets, would give the game more excitement while juicing offense as well.
For a purist, the NHL's intentions for making the nets bigger fit right in with its other recent changes to the game. You'll get more highlights for SportsCenter, just like with the shootout. You'll get records falling thanks to artificially created circumstances, just like when the League crows about attendance or all-star voting. And hey, you'll get to hear the goal song in your local arena a few more times, which is always exhilarating.
But will you get better hockey?
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01-21-2009, 04:48 PM
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^ umm..ok?
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01-21-2009, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer ^ umm..ok? | http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=264137&l...headlines_main
Once again Hondaracer keeping on top of things.
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01-21-2009, 06:13 PM
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#8591 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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Ducks lost, Avs losing 4-1 to the LA. Hopefully the Flames lose tonight as well.
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01-21-2009, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic So, do some teams/players take the time off during the All Star Break or do they hold practices? | Teams aren't allowed to practice during the break, and I don't think players are allowed to do any sort of "official" training either.
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01-21-2009, 06:52 PM
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#8593 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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A whole bunch of players are using the break as time to spend with their famlies.
Mats Sundin I hear is staying in Vancouver to train.
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01-21-2009, 08:50 PM
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Burrows is heading to Vegas with the misses....
It'll be a good mental break for the players.....they'll be ready to go when they get back...
Still early in the season...but canucks got major help tonight from unlikely sources..
Fuck betruzzi scored in SO...damn it...it is wut it is.....
Islanders beat Ducks....that was shocking...
Blackhawks and Avs lost...so without playing Canucks moved from 8th to 7th...VERY NICE....
3 points given in Flames-Jackets Game though..
I was listening to Dan Russel last night and he had this blogger on and he has been using this formula to see how many points the 8th team needs to make the playoff...and a lot of people are projecting about 94...but this guy was saying the magic number will be loser...at around 91...possiby because of 2 less divisional games...which could or could not mean less 3 points games...being shared between divisional teams...Thought that was interesting...
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01-21-2009, 08:55 PM
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i watched that CGY/CBJ game
my god was it ever a good game
Rick Nash once again proved that he can turn things around
CBJ has good thigna in Vorecek if rick nash is goin somewhere else
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01-21-2009, 09:30 PM
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#8596 | | what manner of phaggotry is this
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Originally Posted by invader | you know, thats not that bad of an idea. making the posts and or crossbar oval shaped instead of round. i am absolutely not in favor of increasing the dimensions of the net or flairing out the posts, but changing the actual shape of the bar isnt a terrible idea.
aside from the arguement of "the crossbar is the goalies best friend" i've always felt that if you hit the post, you beat the goalie. imagine if instead of the posts being 2 or 3 inches in diameter, they were inconsequential and there was an invisible line where the post was making it either in or out, not hit the post.
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01-21-2009, 10:12 PM
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I hate how the NHL thinks more goals will automatically equal a more entertaining brand of hockey. The SJ/Van (2-1) game last night to me was much more entertaining then the game they had against Columbus where 10 goals were scored in regulation.
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01-21-2009, 10:28 PM
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#8598 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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No such thing as the "magic number" if you're talking about the Canucks.
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01-21-2009, 10:28 PM
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#8599 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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Originally Posted by Ch28 | i dont scower TSN for hardly news worthy articles, if they dont talk about it on the radio or on any of the 4 sports channels, somthing that could happen some years down the road doesnt really qualify as breaking news.
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01-21-2009, 10:43 PM
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#8600 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline ^
I hate how the NHL thinks more goals will automatically equal a more entertaining brand of hockey. The SJ/Van (2-1) game last night to me was much more entertaining then the game they had against Columbus where 10 goals were scored in regulation. | they aren't trying to draw in real hockey fans though. they already have us. i'm assuming they are hoping when people hear so and so is breaking a scoring record, they would feel more compelled to watch. it's cool for these kind of people to witness the next great thing or history in the making.
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