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09-16-2008, 01:31 PM
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The Canucks will still have to pay the full amount. It's split 50/50 only if the Canucks pick him up on re-entry waivers.
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09-16-2008, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by M_Nguyen  This is looking good for us.
If what was said in the other pages were true then all we have to do is pick up Shneider, trade Bieksa for a top 6 forward and we're set! Nothing like picking up a top 6 or even top 3 defencemen for free!
Question: If we pick up Shneider, do the Ducks still have to pay for part of his contract or do we pay for 100% of his huge contract? | I know if you pick someone up off re-entry waivers, then you get them at half-price while the team that loses him picks up the other half. I'm not sure if this is the same situation.
Either way, Schnieder is like 37. Bieksa is just entering his prime. We had better get a good return for Bieksa if we trade him. I'd rather trade Ohlund or Salo, really.
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09-16-2008, 01:37 PM
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we pick up the full price for regular waivers.
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09-16-2008, 01:57 PM
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no one in their right mind would pick him on on reg. waivers when they can take him on re-entry, just like why no one would trade for him because they knew he'd end up being bought out.
it's a stupid rule. it's supposed to create a sense of urgency when star players are bought out, and even when it does happen, teams are still likely to wait. look at bert.
if brian burke wasn't brian burke, he's be unemployed by now.
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09-16-2008, 05:02 PM
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^ burke has a stanley cup ring, u dont.
Do we really want schnieder? i dont know if thats the kind of move we really want to make, imo i'll have more respect if gillis takes alot of consideration into it, ending in not signing him, then quickly signing him on the return waivers
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09-16-2008, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer ^ burke has a stanley cup ring, u dont.
Do we really want schnieder? i dont know if thats the kind of move we really want to make, imo i'll have more respect if gillis takes alot of consideration into it, ending in not signing him, then quickly signing him on the return waivers | I'd rather have schneider (and another decent top 6 forward for Bieksa) than 10mil in cap space
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09-16-2008, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer ^ burke has a stanley cup ring, u dont.
Do we really want schnieder? i dont know if thats the kind of move we really want to make, imo i'll have more respect if gillis takes alot of consideration into it, ending in not signing him, then quickly signing him on the return waivers | Schneider only has 1 year left on his contract. You pick up Schneider and you get a good PP QB that has a great first pass. His salary is a little inflated but it expires at the end of the season. You get him and you move a guy like Salo or Bieksa to get some offensive help up front.
Schneider might be getting old but he's still a hell of a good player to have. Picking him up makes perfect sense imo
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09-16-2008, 06:31 PM
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ahh only 1 year left eh? thats not bad then
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09-16-2008, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ch28 Schneider only has 1 year left on his contract. You pick up Schneider and you get a good PP QB that has a great first pass. His salary is a little inflated but it expires at the end of the season. You get him and you move a guy like Salo or Bieksa to get some offensive help up front.
Schneider might be getting old but he's still a hell of a good player to have. Picking him up makes perfect sense imo | Schneider is a perfect fit. With the Canucks glass d-men, he would be a great addition. Honestly I don't see Salo going anywhere. He's got the NTC plus it's well known he is injury prone. Having Schneider not only helps our defense but it will help the Canucks offense a great deal. We have lacked the type of d-man who could move the puck from one end to the other end of the rink. Improves our PP, our defense and depth on an injury prone defensive core. Oh and we have a lot of cap space, so might as well use it.
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09-16-2008, 07:33 PM
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Ya he's not going to hurt you that's for sure. They have 10 million in cap space and if Sundin isn't coming here they aren't going to use most of it even if they pickup another forward so why not get him? Seriously, as fans it's not our money what the fuck do we care if the Nucks spend to the cap. 
One thing about him is If he makes it to re-entry waivers all the teams below us in the standings would have first crack at him. Since LA was trying to get a deal done to trade for him I doubt we'd get him on the way back before the Kings poach him.
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09-16-2008, 07:48 PM
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i knew it was stupid for gillis to wait on sundin. like i said b4, bad decision. now its just a scramble to throw a team together.
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09-16-2008, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AzNightmare What we should worry more about is how AV is gonna coach the new team. You can have all the offensive players you want, but if AV doesn't put more offense in his game, the players aren't going to put more offense in their game. | Well, he did try putting in more offense in the beginning. Our pluggers got tons of chances. They just kept shooting the puck at the goalie's pads or missed the net. Has everybody forgotten? What's the point of implementing an offensive system with a bunch of plugs? Quote:
Originally Posted by 6thGear. i knew it was stupid for gillis to wait on sundin. like i said b4, bad decision. now its just a scramble to throw a team together. | Oh no! We're panicking again!
With 10M, we can blow it on whatever's available now or save it for a chance at an impact player if it comes. If you spend the money just to fill the holes, you might feel better. But do you want to be a little bit better or wait for a chance to be a lot better?
Remember, once that 10Mil's gone, that's it for the year. I want a real chance at the cup, not a little bit better chance to get into the second round. Might as well just save it for a higher draft pick.
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09-16-2008, 08:41 PM
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His contract is still 5.625M a year, that's more than half of what we got. If we really trade Bieksa for a forward, who are we going to get? I would've liked Erik Cole (I believe there was a rumour about a trade like this prior to him being traded for Pitkanen), but that's out the window now.
Perhaps Phil Kessel? Speedy forward with hands to match, and excellent dangler. Imagine Kessel playing with Raymond and Grabner. Boy, we can dream can't we?
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09-16-2008, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer ^ burke has a stanley cup ring, u dont. | dude, you're a certified rocket scientist. i said what i said because of his success... you know, as if to say; if another person not of his stature and character and reputation made mistakes like this, he'd be fired.
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09-16-2008, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by goo3 Oh no! We're panicking again!
With 10M, we can blow it on whatever's available now or save it for a chance at an impact player if it comes. If you spend the money just to fill the holes, you might feel better. But do you want to be a little bit better or wait for a chance to be a lot better?
Remember, once that 10Mil's gone, that's it for the year. I want a real chance at the cup, not a little bit better chance to get into the second round. Might as well just save it for a higher draft pick. | im not panicking. i just thought it was a bad move for gillis to wait for more than 2 weeks. your right, we do have that money to spend. but, who do we have to actually offer other than bieksa? everyone else isn't really expendable. its definitely not the young guys (kesler, edler, hodgeson, grabner) the canucks need these young guys for rebuilding. sedins or luongo? that really isn't too smart either. realistically, the canucks can really only land 1 star player through trades. teams that are looking to unload aren't gonna let that good player go for nothing. what i want is for the canucks to constantly build on future success. not dismantle the team every 3 years. i want them to actually have some patience and look long term.
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09-16-2008, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by raygunpk wow burke is the biggest retard. ever.
bryzgalov. mcdonald for weight. now schneider. | You really don't understand why he did what he did with those players, do you?
Bryzgalov was a decent goalie, but with Jonas Hiller waiting in the wings (no pun intended), they really didn't need him, or the salary he was going to be asking for.
Trading away Andy Mcdonald was two-fold. First, his production had started to decline, and he just wasn't as good as he was the year before. You could argue that that was because Selanne wasn't there, but still. Second, they didn't want to be saddled with his 3.3 mil contract for the next couple years, so they traded to St.Louis to pick up Weight. Why? Because Weight was in the last year of his contract, and they had no intention of resigning him, because they were going to need the money for Getzlaf and Perry.
I don't like seeing Schneider getting moved (I am after all a diehard Ducks fan and he's a great defenseman), but again, it's all about the money. Teemu is coming back, and with Getzlaf and Perry with their new contracts, they have to find the money somehow. Their defense is the last thing they have to worry about, so out he goes.
...And just how does a retard engineer a Stanley Cup team, anyway?
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09-17-2008, 01:22 PM
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| Justin Williams has suffered another major setback. The Carolina Hurricanes winger tore his right Achilles tendon on Wednesday morning and will miss the next four to six months.
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09-17-2008, 01:53 PM
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You guys have to understand Burke's not simply giving his players away, he's not an idiot. As a GM he's made promises to his players. Ex. Bryzgalov wanted to be a #1 goalie so Burke promised him he would try to trade him by a certain date, if not then he'd put him on Waivers.
Burke kept his word and ended up putting Bryzgalov on Waivers. The Ducks may have lost a goalie that day but future players will look to see what Burke has done in the past and they're more willing to play for a guy who will keep his word. Especially if Burke ends up with another organization down the road... if he's looking for a goaltender and Bryzgalov happens to be available, don't be surprised if they get reunited.
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09-17-2008, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer ^ burke has a stanley cup ring, u dont. | You know that most of the assets Burke used to win the stanley cup were left over from Bryan Murray's work right? The only move of significance he made was picking up Pronger. People give Burke way too much credit for the stanley cup.
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09-17-2008, 02:37 PM
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Okay.... Burke is making some $1.5M per year as an NHL GM... you aren't. Obviously the fact that he had Bryan Murray's team to build on wasn't a big factor in that.
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09-17-2008, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy Okay.... Burke is making some $1.5M per year as an NHL GM... you aren't. Obviously the fact that he had Bryan Murray's team to build on wasn't a big factor in that.
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09-17-2008, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hi5-ive | ok. who the fuck is justin williams and why the fuck is his injury report in the canucks thread?
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09-17-2008, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ch28 wah wah wah
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wah wah | seriously. the last two-three pages have been filled with useless comments, insults and parting shots.
WE NEED TO SEE SOME HOCKEY!
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09-17-2008, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by the_rickster ok. who the fuck is justin williams and why the fuck is his injury report in the canucks thread? | No joke, you don't know who Justin Williams is? And just because the thread is called "Official 2008/2009 Canucks Thread" doesn't mean it's limited to just Canuck talk, but the NHL in general as well.
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there were some rumors before that canucks would trade a dman for justin williams, and i thought it was just interesting, hes out for 4-6 months.
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