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Old 01-11-2009, 10:43 AM   #7951
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:18 AM   #7952
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My favourite Canuck by far and had the chance to meet him at the Milbury Charity Golf. The guy has the most humble, down to earth persona. If you met him IRL, you wouldn't think the guy is a pro at all. I've seen guys @ Ice604 with more ego & arrogance than Welly.
Pretty much all Pro and Semi-pro hockey players aren't arrogant at all. Just by watching their press conference they don't go gloating or putting the other team down before or after a game. Its always "We'll try our best tonight and try to get a win", "Hopefully we get some lucky bounces" and after the game they would say stuff like " Oh we put out a good effort, came out hitting but the other team didn't make it easy on us" "They played a good game but a few mistakes cost them and had some unlucky bounces".

Unlike other sports there's nothing but trash talk like " We gonna win, I guarantee it" "They're going down!!" "They're not gonna stop me!" and even after the game they'll gloat about how they put their money where their mouth is, how crappy the other team played, etc.

EDIt: well, with the exception of Alfredsson "guaranteeing the cup to Ottawa fans. He's the last arrogant player I remember

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Pretty much all Pro and Semi-pro hockey players aren't arrogant at all. Just by watching their press conference they don't go gloating or putting the other team down before or after a game. Its always "We'll try our best tonight and try to get a win", "Hopefully we get some lucky bounces" and after the game they would say stuff like " Oh we put out a good effort, came out hitting but the other team didn't make it easy on us" "They played a good game but a few mistakes cost them and had some unlucky bounces".

Unlike other sports there's nothing but trash talk like " We gonna win, I guarantee it" "They're going down!!" "They're not gonna stop me!" and even after the game they'll gloat about how they put their money where their mouth is, how crappy the other team played, etc.

EDIt: well, with the exception of Alfredsson "guaranteeing the cup to Ottawa fans. He's the last arrogant player I remember
Hmm that "attitude" doesn't really signify an athlete being humble. All it says is that they have PROFESSIONALISM.
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:49 PM   #7955
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Pretty much all Pro and Semi-pro hockey players aren't arrogant at all. Just by watching their press conference they don't go gloating or putting the other team down before or after a game. Its always "We'll try our best tonight and try to get a win", "Hopefully we get some lucky bounces" and after the game they would say stuff like " Oh we put out a good effort, came out hitting but the other team didn't make it easy on us" "They played a good game but a few mistakes cost them and had some unlucky bounces".

Unlike other sports there's nothing but trash talk like " We gonna win, I guarantee it" "They're going down!!" "They're not gonna stop me!" and even after the game they'll gloat about how they put their money where their mouth is, how crappy the other team played, etc.

EDIt: well, with the exception of Alfredsson "guaranteeing the cup to Ottawa fans. He's the last arrogant player I remember
Nahhh, what I meant was Wellwood's overall demeanor on & off the ice. The guy acts like your average joe lining up behind you in Safeway. You wouldn't know it that he makes $1 million per year nor does he have this "I'm a pro-hockey player" persona.

I was very surprised with his humility.
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Asking everyone out there - without having a bias, who would you rather have on your team?

Mike Komisarek of the Habs or Kevin Bieksa of the Canucks? Having an argument with my friend who says Komisarek is a shut down Dman who plays against the opposing teams best players and Bieksa would not be a top 6 Dman on any other team.

I told him the stats state otherwise..and the fact the Komisarek is going to the allstar game is a complete joke!

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Bieksa would not be a top 6 Dman on any other team.
He's a moron. Bieksa is top 4 on basically every team in the league.
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The whole All-Star voting system is a joke. Kovelev over AO? Seriously?! How many fans actually watch the All-Star game? The skills competition is alright but it was painful to watch the breakaway skill competition last year.

The last time I voted for the ASG was for something worthwhile. Anyone remember this?

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The whole All-Star voting system is a joke. Kovelev over AO? Seriously?! How many fans actually watch the All-Star game? The skills competition is alright but it was painful to watch the breakaway skill competition last year.

The last time I voted for the ASG was for something worthwhile. Anyone remember this?

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The people of Montreal cared enough for their players and took the effort to vote for them. Same thing goes for Yao Ming in the NBA. He's not the best player at the position but if the majority of fans want him to start, so be it.

When the All Star Game was here in Vancouver I remember stuffing the ballots at the local McDonald's with votes for Pavel Bure. He didn't get enough votes to start but the fact of a matter is the real hockey fans in Montreal cared enough to take the time to vote and ensure their players will be starting in the ASG.
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Yes the "real" hockey fans used a computer program to repeatedly vote for the same player over and over again, flooding votes.
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The people of Montreal cared enough for their players and took the effort to vote for them. Same thing goes for Yao Ming in the NBA. He's not the best player at the position but if the majority of fans want him to start, so be it.

When the All Star Game was here in Vancouver I remember stuffing the ballots at the local McDonald's with votes for Pavel Bure. He didn't get enough votes to start but the fact of a matter is the real hockey fans in Montreal cared enough to take the time to vote and ensure their players will be starting in the ASG.
I get your side and a few years ago I felt the same. It was around the time with the whole 'Vote for Rory' campaign though that I got fed up. Did I want Rory to participate? Yes, because the fans wanted him to play. But when the final vote tallies were released, it was obvious the NHL intervened on the numbers. Rory's had votes around the world, his numbers were naturally high. Yao Ming has fans around the world, that's why he gets in. Most of Komi's are in Montreal.

Is it really the majority of fans? It's really hard to tell these days with all of the automatic voting programs that just spam the system and it's gotten worse over the past few seasons. Especially since Jagr's record for most votes was just shattered by 6 other players, all this year.

But hey, I probably won't be watching so who cares what I think. I do miss the NA vs the World format though.

Although to be honest if the game was held in Vancouver and the Sedins, Ohlund, Bieksa and Luongo were voted, I probably wouldn't be complaining. That's what homer glasses do for ya.
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Yao gets voted in by all the Chinese fans. I don't have any stats on this but I'm pretty sure on 99% of All-Star Ballots from China will have Yao on it. He can easily get in on Chinese votes alone. China's population is ~1.3 Billion. America's is just over 300 million and Canada is about 30 million. Include other 'somewhat' basketball countries like Brazil, Spain, Australia, France, Italy, etc and China will still have more votes than everybody else combined.

My point here is who actually bothered to vote for the All Star Game? If there are fans who cared enough about their players, they would be the ones taking the time to stuff the ballots.
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Either way, to be honest, I really care about the all star game. It was interesting when I first started watching hockey, the skills competition might be interesting to watch, but the game itself is way too laid back and friendy, there's not much intensity in it. It's like worst than an exhibition game where you got a bunch of guys playing their hearts out for roster spots.

I don't expect them to go all out in an all star game obviously, because it is meaningless, but it can't be helped. It's interesting, but only to the point that I'll watch it if I have nothing better to do.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:24 AM   #7965
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Goaltending: Canucks' crease becoming crowded

By Ben Kuzma, The ProvinceJanuary 12, 2009 8:00 AM



The math is simple and so is the solution. Three goaltenders don't divide evenly into two roster positions and the odd man out of what will soon be a crowded Vancouver Canucks crease is likely Curtis Sanford.

With workhorse starter Roberto Luongo possibly returning Thursday from seven weeks on the sidelines with a groin strain -- and Jason LaBarbera backstopping the club to points in four of his five starts since being acquired from the Los Angeles Kings -- the amiable yet inconsistent Sanford is expected to be dangled as trade bait.

Yet, in that respect, the loser could be the winner.

Dallas and Columbus are both in the market for a backup starter and Sanford would play more for either club than here if retained.

Marty Turco is shouldering too much of the load for the Stars and coach Dave Tippett has little confidence in rookie Tobias Stephan, who has logged just three starts.

The Blue Jackets are riding red-hot rookie Steve Mason, but Pascal Leclaire has a wonky ankle that has been slow to heal and could threaten his season.

At 29, Sanford has enough presence to play the position and with half of his $650,000-US salary already eaten up, the pending unrestricted free agent has some market value.

Asked if he has thought of what could transpire this week, Sanford was open and honest -- a trait that has won him the support of his teammates and admiration from the media.

"Absolutely," he said. "I'm only human and I've got to put that in the back of my mind. Anything is possible and the worst thing I can do is worry. It's about resiliency and battling through all types of adversity. I've been through it my whole career and it's probably going to be like that until I decide to hang them [skates] up."

One goal doesn't define a career, but a 41-foot Wiffle Ball that eluded Sanford's grasp on Saturday went a long way to sealing his fate.

With the Canucks in a 1-1 deadlock with the San Jose Sharks, the backup looked like a confused catcher trying to corral a Tim Wakefield knuckleball. A Mike Grier shot fluttered over his shoulder and was a painful reminder that Sanford is a game goalie who never quite got it done -- even though he strung together consecutive wins over Minnesota, Pittsburgh and Detroit in November and blanked Ottawa in December.

The again, Sanford allowed five goals in a loss at Buffalo, surrendered six goals and was yanked in a setback at Detroit and injured his groin Dec. 30 against Philadelphia.

However, the Grier goal was telling, especially with Luongo sidelined and coach Alain Vigneault looking for Sanford or Cory Schneider to carry the ball -- and not fumble it -- in the starter's absence.

So, how did Sanford see the Grier goal?

"It switched direction 21/2 feet, but was on edge and I saw it," he shrugged. "Maybe, if I step out an extra six inches I get a piece of it. It did curve in there, but still it's no excuse on my part. It was a clean, open shot and I must stop those."

The 4-2 setback included two deflected goals, but the defeat was deflating. A win could have given Sanford the start Tuesday against New Jersey and maybe even Thursday against Phoenix -- if Luongo isn't quite ready for prime time. Now? The next start will likely be elsewhere.

"It would have been a huge win on a personal level," admitted Sanford, who sports a 7-7-0 record, 2.62 goals-against average and .906 save percentage. "But the moment I start worrying about it [future], I just can't let that sink in. You can think and ponder, but worrying is a different thing."

Canucks general manager Mike Gillis was understandably diplomatic when asked how he'll decide which backup stays.

On one hand, how do you dump on Sanford, who took a paltry $50,000 pay increase to be the Maytag repairman to Luongo? How can you knock how good he is in the room? And how can you do anything but praise LaBarbera, who was rushed into the spotlight and didn't back down from its glare?

"What's going to factor in is the assessment of their play and we're not there yet," said Gillis. "Jason has played very well and Curtis had played well in opportunities that he's had. Goaltending is a function of different factors and any decision won't be made in isolation."

Still, you'd think Gillis would gladly take the extra sixth or seventh-round pick Columbus owns in return for Sanford. After all, the Canucks gave up a seventh-round selection to Los Angeles for LaBarbera.

But it's hard not to have a soft spot for Sanford.

"I was never the most talented guy or the biggest guy, obviously," said the 5-foot-10 Owen Sound, Ont. native. "It's a position that's as much about thinking as reacting. You start to over-think and analyze and you find yourself in trouble."

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