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Old 06-14-2015, 09:22 AM   #20826
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Sorry for the constant venting guise...

So I told her how I felt last night, and she told me she wasn't interested. I hate when girls lie... She said "I'd rather not have a summer thing that we are doing just because we are bored" blah blah blah... Then as I keep talking in that mostly silent car ride, turns out she wasn't "physically attracted". Didn't eat last night and couldn't sleep, I don't know what to do right now. She said she likes me and would like to continue hanging out as friends (ouch, I know) and I like her too...

Do you guys think I should continue as her friend, maybe her feelings will change later on? Or is it better to let go.......

I can't control the colour of my brown skin, my looks, height, etc. but I just don't get the reason why I am rejected more often than I am given a "yes"

Edit: I wasn't head over heels for her, I liked her slightly, this was just something that I wanted to do


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Sorry for the constant venting guise...

So I told her how I felt last night, and she told me she wasn't interested. I hate when girls lie... She said "I'd rather not have a summer thing that we are doing just because we are bored" blah blah blah... Then as I keep talking in that mostly silent car ride, turns out she wasn't "physically attracted". Didn't eat last night and couldn't sleep, I don't know what to do right now. She said she likes me and would like to continue hanging out as friends (ouch, I know) and I like her too...

Do you guys think I should continue as her friend, maybe her feelings will change later on? Or is it better to let go.......

I can't control the colour of my brown skin, my looks, height, etc. but I just don't get the reason why I am rejected more often than I am given a "yes"
She likes the idea of having a human male body to do activities with but she does not like you.

Every time you hang out with her it'll feel like a one way relationship and she will more likley than not will exploit your kindness.

If you want to be the meantime guy..keep hanging out, but know that you are missing out whatever else is out there!
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She likes the idea of having a human male body to do activities with but she does not like you.

Every time you hang out with her it'll feel like a one way relationship and she will more likley than not will exploit your kindness.

If you want to be the meantime guy..keep hanging out, but know that you are missing out whatever else is out there!

Well to be honest, she has done so already... I just don't understnd how I can not be the "nice guy" without being a total asshole.

We have a lot of mutual friends, and I feel she would be a good friend to have (she knows a lot of other single girls), but like I said I wasn't too invested in the first place. It was sort of something to get over boredom this summer tbh, but that was a crude reality check lol.
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Well to be honest, she has done so already... I just don't understnd how I can not be the "nice guy" without being a total asshole.
Girls don't NOT like "nice guys".

They don't like beta guys, as in guys who bend over backwards and do everything under the sun for a girl, like buying her expensive gifts, catering to her every want, and never leaving her alone because they think it'll win them her affection. AKA your typical "white knight" who radiates desperation and clingyness because oftentimes, he has nothing else on his plate except trying to get this one girl. And it's a massive turn-off.

Only these ^ beta guys think that "girls only like assholes".

Because "asshole" guys tend to have the following characteristics: they are aloof, generally don't give a fuck, are confident, relaxed, and don't let most things bother them. And girls like that because it DOESN'T reek of desperation and clingyness. I.e., they don't smother girls with attention, don't excessively chase women, and most of all they act as though they are the catch. They don't waste months and months going after the same girl with zero result. No, you just want to be friends? On to the next one, not camp outside her bedroom window and blow her kisses at 3AM.

The best way to attract quality women is to live in such a way that they think you can live without them. Just my $0.02
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I'm sick of school.
Why am i paying for something that makes me so goddamned miserable?
5 years of undergrad was more than enough.
The purpose of all these PT courses was supposed to be to dip my feet and pick up a few skills, not fucking dread every fucking week wasting time on stupid assignments, dry as shit readings and god-forsaken projects.

This is my biggest gripe with post-secondary education. Seems like its 90% bullshit and 10% actual learning. When i look over to the desks beside me and notice others' notes as "possible exam question..." it makes me fucking lol because that epitomizes exactly what the fuck is wrong with the fucking system. Instead of the focus being on learning and developing new skills all these fucking piece of shit courses instead force me to focus on passing. I ain't learning shit from useless theoretical lectures and discussions. Shut the fuck up.

The best news is that at least I'm not that deep into it. There's still time to quit. Fuck this shit. I'm out.
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Girls don't NOT like "nice guys".

They don't like beta guys, as in guys who bend over backwards and do everything under the sun for a girl, like buying her expensive gifts, catering to her every want, and never leaving her alone because they think it'll win them her affection. AKA your typical "white knight" who radiates desperation and clingyness because oftentimes, he has nothing else on his plate except trying to get this one girl. And it's a massive turn-off.

Only these ^ beta guys think that "girls only like assholes".

Because "asshole" guys tend to have the following characteristics: they are aloof, generally don't give a fuck, are confident, relaxed, and don't let most things bother them. And girls like that because it DOESN'T reek of desperation and clingyness. I.e., they don't smother girls with attention, don't excessively chase women, and most of all they act as though they are the catch. They don't waste months and months going after the same girl with zero result. No, you just want to be friends? On to the next one, not camp outside her bedroom window and blow her kisses at 3AM.

The best way to attract quality women is to live in such a way that they think you can live without them. Just my $0.02
To be honest, I didn't do any of that so it feels good. I was so proud of myself for putting myself out there...

But I hate losing friends like this. We liked each other as friends too, and we had fun every time we hung out. Oh well, on to the next one.

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I'm sick of school.
Why am i paying for something that makes me so goddamned miserable?
5 years of undergrad was more than enough.
The purpose of all these PT courses was supposed to be to dip my feet and pick up a few skills, not fucking dread every fucking week wasting time on stupid assignments, dry as shit readings and god-forsaken projects.

This is my biggest gripe with post-secondary education. Seems like its 90% bullshit and 10% actual learning. When i look over to the desks beside me and notice others' notes as "possible exam question..." it makes me fucking lol because that epitomizes exactly what the fuck is wrong with the fucking system. Instead of the focus being on learning and developing new skills all these fucking piece of shit courses instead force me to focus on passing. I ain't learning shit from useless theoretical lectures and discussions. Shut the fuck up.

The best news is that at least I'm not that deep into it. There's still time to quit. Fuck this shit. I'm out.
This. Also the reason why I am taking the summer off and working. Thank you.
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I'm sick of school.
Why am i paying for something that makes me so goddamned miserable?
5 years of undergrad was more than enough.
The purpose of all these PT courses was supposed to be to dip my feet and pick up a few skills, not fucking dread every fucking week wasting time on stupid assignments, dry as shit readings and god-forsaken projects.

This is my biggest gripe with post-secondary education. Seems like its 90% bullshit and 10% actual learning. When i look over to the desks beside me and notice others' notes as "possible exam question..." it makes me fucking lol because that epitomizes exactly what the fuck is wrong with the fucking system. Instead of the focus being on learning and developing new skills all these fucking piece of shit courses instead force me to focus on passing. I ain't learning shit from useless theoretical lectures and discussions. Shut the fuck up.

The best news is that at least I'm not that deep into it. There's still time to quit. Fuck this shit. I'm out.
I have two degrees but this was ages ago. Tuition and supplies overall were cheaper and even then the whole struggle didn't seem worth the minimal benefit I got when all was said and done.

In short, I vowed never to go back to school. It is mostly bullshit, for profit, nonsensical time wasting crap.

I found that I could have done as well if not better had I just volunteered at organizations and gained experience the natural way. Through HANDS ON training and actual mental stimulation. I could never ever feel stimulated at school unless I was cramming for an exam or some random ass project.

And we wonder why college kids are so stressed and medicated (in some cases)? Way too much pressure to put on people still trying to discover their professional place in life. Seems too many programs are saturated in BS and the relevant content gets lost.

Now I learn through other means thanks to technology and I've also secured great employment through volunteering.

School never helped me at all except to siphon out my bank account and make me age quicker.
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Thus why I've got 2 certificates in drafting & design (diploma equivalent) and I'm going back for an associates certificate in Building Technology and most likely another certificate in Construction Management..

I'm 25 and I regret not getting a degree from BCIT.
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Sorry for the constant venting guise...

So I told her how I felt last night, and she told me she wasn't interested. I hate when girls lie... She said "I'd rather not have a summer thing that we are doing just because we are bored" blah blah blah... Then as I keep talking in that mostly silent car ride, turns out she wasn't "physically attracted". Didn't eat last night and couldn't sleep, I don't know what to do right now. She said she likes me and would like to continue hanging out as friends (ouch, I know) and I like her too...

Do you guys think I should continue as her friend, maybe her feelings will change later on? Or is it better to let go.......

I can't control the colour of my brown skin, my looks, height, etc. but I just don't get the reason why I am rejected more often than I am given a "yes"

Edit: I wasn't head over heels for her, I liked her slightly, this was just something that I wanted to do


I cringed when I saw your post about your outing, I'm cringing even harder when I read this. You know what I'm reading? A wall of excuses.

I dunno what happened on your "date" but you make it out to sound like a pretty horrible experience from her end. If you didn't have a good conversation going AND you barely knew her, why would you even ask when you should contact her when it ended only a few hours ago? That reeks of desperation which any person, guy or girl would find repulsive.

It ain't the color of your skin, or your height or your looks as long as you look and are pretty average. If she doesn't think she will be romantically involved with you, it's because you have nothing interesting to talk to her about, hence your forced date-conversation. Not being attracted to you physically was the easy way out for her.

If you have any hint of her not being interested, you should not be spilling your heart out. How do you gauge her interest? Well, if the number of happy moments are outweighed the number of awkward, forced conversation type moments, you should know she ain't that into you and if you make that leap, she is definitely gonna boot you in the face. Don't get me wrong, even if the number of happy moments out weigh the awkward moments, there's still a good chance that she will boot you in the face but there would be less chance of that happening. Another good sign that she is not interested is that she keeps her distance when walking with you and there's no attempt for her to physically get close to you.

When I go out with a girl I intend to get together with, after a few times going out with her, if she has made physical contact with me a few times, I will do the same and make contact with her until I eventually reach for her hand and hold it. Even then, it takes time for them to get to know you aren't a serial killer by talking with you and having some engaging conversation. Everything is built up slowly. Nothing in a relationship is instantaneous. I ask the girls I go out with more questions than they ask me to try and get to know them and then I let them bounce back with something to say and let the conversation build over time and establishing who this person is and what they like. You gotta learn some patience and chill out. You know how fishing lures work? If you make movements too sudden and unnatural, you scare all the mother fucking fish away, and then you're gonna go home with a bucket of rocks to eat for the night. If you slowly work the lure in a slow and calculated way and temped fish into biting, eventually you will get a hit.

From the sounds of it, you jumped the gun way too fast and you came off as desperate and got rejected, simple as that. Let me internet-Sherlock this for a bit: So you went out with her on the 4th of June, then you go ahead and tell her how you feel on the 13th. By my poor finger counting, that's 9 days from when you posted last about your first date on June 4th. So in reality, you only dated her for maybe 8 days? Too soon, Junior.

So the paradox is this: Learn patience, quickly.

Well, on to the next. Hope that was a good learning experience. Since you've already spilled your guts for her, being her friend will inevitably end sooner or later when she finds a guy to date. Trust me, when she finds another guy, it's gonna hurt you when she doesn't even want to talk to you.

So like you said, on your date, you didn't even know her much, so what's the point of keeping in contact? Being her friend because she has a lot of single friends is not going to help you. So many guys think this is such an awesome thing, but in reality it is quite possibly the most beta thing to do. If you are banking on her setting you up with one of them, you're just gonna remain one of her play things. She got power over you.

Are you gonna be emotionally attached to a girl who doesn't want you and who you barely know? Just take the hit and move on. Like I said before, go out and do shit and experience the world beyond work, it will make you less boring to be around.

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I swore and vow to never have relationships with anyone from work since it can fuck someone over down the road if something sour in a relationship happens (Eg. Breakup on bad terms).

Out of curiosity, anyone of you guys date a girl/guy from work or know of anyone? Worked out well? Or failed miserably?
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Lol my fiancee used to be my supervisor at our previous jobs so u can say it worked out well.

Some people live by the absolute rule of never dating anyone they work with.
It makes sense to a certain extent...it's one of those things were uve gotta let the pros and cons simmer for some time. Either way, whatever decision you make, make sure you've planned and prepared for the worst case and you'll do just dandy.
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Out of curiosity, anyone of you guys date a girl/guy from work or know of anyone? Worked out well? Or failed miserably?
I dated someone from work, it worked out very well because our department got laid off a few months after we started dating. I found work elsewhere and she got recalled to work so it kinda worked out.

It was easier to date while working at the lab because she worked a different shift so we never really got to see each other at work. In retrospect, if we broke up while working in the same place, it would have been awful, actually.
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I dated someone from work, it worked out very well because our department got laid off a few months after we started dating. I found work elsewhere and she got recalled to work so it kinda worked out.

It was easier to date while working at the lab because she worked a different shift so we never really got to see each other at work. In retrospect, if we broke up while working in the same place, it would have been awful, actually.
If the company is huge, then it's probably okay since you may be working in a different department or even floor. But if the company is small, it can be tricky to manage around.

I'm just exploring my options in terms of curiosity sake as I've still stood by, no dating at work as it can create gossip and havoc, considering I work with 95% women...
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Sigh I don't wanna pull out cause the paper is too good....
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