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Old 07-05-2016, 06:27 PM   #21676
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Grind while you're young, don't worry about women/relationships. Overtime whoever's meant to be for you will show up.

*Unless you're PK-EK, then you just keep reminiscing and become super jaded*
In a way i am grinding right now. I moved away from Vancouver and started working up north as i save much more money. I just want some company... its so lonely up here...

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In a way i am grinding right now. I moved away from Vancouver and started working up north as i save much more money. I just want some company... its so lonely up here...
I don't agree.

What happened with me, I was working two full time jobs making close to 6 figures. I had so much fucking money to spend. but i never had the time to spend it.
my day consisted of waking up at 7:30am - go to job #1
get off job #1 at 6:00pm and head to work at job #2 aiming to be there at 6:30
grab a quick bite to eat. work at Job #2 until 11-12 at night.
By the time i get home to shower and go to bed. it was usually 1am

the only friends I had were the ones I worked with at job #2

I worked both jobs for 6 days at week. and job #2 would take up most of my sundays.

I did this on and off for two years.
I really made me appreciate my family.

At the end of it. I lost my shit and quit Job #2
I didn't have a life. I worked so much and I didn't know what to do with all the money i made.

You need balance in your life. Money isn't everything.
It'll only make you happy for so far.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:14 PM   #21679
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I don't agree.

What happened with me, I was working two full time jobs making close to 6 figures. I had so much fucking money to spend. but i never had the time to spend it.
my day consisted of waking up at 7:30am - go to job #1
get off job #1 at 6:00pm and head to work at job #2 aiming to be there at 6:30
grab a quick bite to eat. work at Job #2 until 11-12 at night.
By the time i get home to shower and go to bed. it was usually 1am

the only friends I had were the ones I worked with at job #2

I worked both jobs for 6 days at week. and job #2 would take up most of my sundays.

I did this on and off for two years.
I really made me appreciate my family.

At the end of it. I lost my shit and quit Job #2
I didn't have a life. I worked so much and I didn't know what to do with all the money i made.

You need balance in your life. Money isn't everything.
It'll only make you happy for so far.
Im making close to 6 figures after taxes, but i do go on vacations (every half a year) and have fun, which consist of going back to Vancouver and partying with friends as most of them (including me) are still this the partying stages of life. other then that i basically work 7 days a week since i honestly have nothing better to do up here....
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I don't agree.

What happened with me, I was working two full time jobs making close to 6 figures. I had so much fucking money to spend. but i never had the time to spend it.
my day consisted of waking up at 7:30am - go to job #1
get off job #1 at 6:00pm and head to work at job #2 aiming to be there at 6:30
grab a quick bite to eat. work at Job #2 until 11-12 at night.
By the time i get home to shower and go to bed. it was usually 1am

the only friends I had were the ones I worked with at job #2

I worked both jobs for 6 days at week. and job #2 would take up most of my sundays.

I did this on and off for two years.
I really made me appreciate my family.

At the end of it. I lost my shit and quit Job #2
I didn't have a life. I worked so much and I didn't know what to do with all the money i made.

You need balance in your life. Money isn't everything.
It'll only make you happy for so far.


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Im making close to 6 figures after taxes, but i do go on vacations (every half a year) and have fun, which consist of going back to Vancouver and partying with friends as most of them (including me) are still this the partying stages of life. other then that i basically work 7 days a week since i honestly have nothing better to do up here....
Then I guess you've got it more handled then me.
You are probably much more emotionally stabled too lol

I found that even going to Vancouver to visit every other month and having fun and burning money didn't do anything for me.... ahahah

Keep it up while you can. and at the end of the day; even if you can't find true love, you can always just buy one and be a sugar daddy.
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Try adding something in the mix; eg// getting seriously sick. It'll make you appreciate no money will solve anything. When you're sick (or in hospital), and having zero friends come and visit you, you suddenly realize all the "fake" friends at work / acquaintances suddenly means nothing. Pretty similar to just liking a post on FB.

I had that and realized money with good work life balance is key. I've just recovered from a yearly long battle with a rare sickness and put everything in perspectives.
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I don't agree.

What happened with me, I was working two full time jobs making close to 6 figures. I had so much fucking money to spend. but i never had the time to spend it.
my day consisted of waking up at 7:30am - go to job #1
get off job #1 at 6:00pm and head to work at job #2 aiming to be there at 6:30
grab a quick bite to eat. work at Job #2 until 11-12 at night.
By the time i get home to shower and go to bed. it was usually 1am

the only friends I had were the ones I worked with at job #2

I worked both jobs for 6 days at week. and job #2 would take up most of my sundays.

I did this on and off for two years.
I really made me appreciate my family.

At the end of it. I lost my shit and quit Job #2
I didn't have a life. I worked so much and I didn't know what to do with all the money i made.

You need balance in your life. Money isn't everything.
It'll only make you happy for so far.
buy yourself something nice. But i understand how you feel. All the time you spend at work but all you get is money.. Still pretty shitty knowing that you have no one to spend the money with. I would change my attitude when i have tons of money.
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I really wanna go out and drink my problems away (even if its just temporally)
but i have work the next day

fuck my life
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but i have work the next day
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I really wanna go out and drink my problems away (even if its just temporally)
but i have work the next day

fuck my life
I do that already... i have a hard time sleeping at night so i drink about 1 bottle of red or half a bottle of whiskey... before i can actually sleep...
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I do that already... i have a hard time sleeping at night so i drink about 1 bottle of red or half a bottle of whiskey... before i can actually sleep...
I would be really careful about that. not only is it bad for your liver.

but I've read in a couple of forums from people who would drink every night to help them sleep. and then they cut themselves off all of a sudden and they started getting withdrawal symptoms like seizures.
scary stuff. its a scary world out there. watch yourself
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I've been talking to her for 4 months now.
I made it very clear from the start that i was interested in her. she made it very clear that she wasn't looking for a relationship.

We stopped talking for a little while and one day she messages me again
(yes, I know she just wanted attention)
But she says that She can't just stop talking to me because I shared so many personal things with her. (at this point on, i knew i was kinda fucked)

so now it drives me crazy.
I have this obligation to talk to her everyday when i know I really shouldn't.
I need to move on from her. but with the way things are going, i don't have the heart to just stop talking to her. It would make her so sad that she would be loosing a friend.

I'd do anything to make her happy. she is very important to me.
how long do you think before I tear myself up inside?

Yes, I know. I'm a fucking idiot and i should of just walked away and moved on.
so on Tuesday night we had a talk.
she told me how its not fair for me to keep talking to her because i'm just practically waiting for her.
she also told me she would totally understand why i would need my space and that it would be okay that i didn't talk to her.
I thought that would be it. and I could start rebuilding my walls that i put down for her.

She went to Vegas yesterday. and I get a drunk message from her...

What the fuck. i thought we made things crystal clear. I need to not talk about you and not think about you if i need to move on.

so the stupid/crazy/child/fairtail me is telling myself
"hey! PK-EK
she still thinks about you, deep down inside she does like you. that is why she drunk messaged you. you still have a chance with her."

FUCK!
I need a fucking drink
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She's trying to be nice to you dude. Move on.

You really want to spend your time brooding over this one girl, that's telling you to get lost?

What you need to do is change your scenery and take a vacation where there are hot scantily clad girls around so they're not perceived as some magical unicorn. Try Mexico, Brasil, Bali, Florida, Cali. For the most part the women here are ice cold gold diggers.
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...take a vacation where there are hot scantily clad girls around so they're not perceived as some magical unicorn. Try Mexico, Brasil, Bali, Florida,Cali. For the most part the women here are ice cold gold diggers.
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I would be really careful about that. not only is it bad for your liver.

but I've read in a couple of forums from people who would drink every night to help them sleep. and then they cut themselves off all of a sudden and they started getting withdrawal symptoms like seizures.
scary stuff. its a scary world out there. watch yourself

I try to watch myself, i only drink if i really cant sleep, i normally get off work at 11pm, and if i cant sleep by 2/3 am ill have a few drinks, not mixed so basically i choose a nice bottle of Merlot or some whiskey
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RS needs a damn singles group.... dudes and chicks. PK-EK is taking the emo to a whole new level recently...
I'm sure we all have single chick friends who are like "sisters" to us.... Bring them? Singles meet up?
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so on Tuesday night we had a talk.
she told me how its not fair for me to keep talking to her because i'm just practically waiting for her.
she also told me she would totally understand why i would need my space and that it would be okay that i didn't talk to her.
I thought that would be it. and I could start rebuilding my walls that i put down for her.

She went to Vegas yesterday. and I get a drunk message from her...

What the fuck. i thought we made things crystal clear. I need to not talk about you and not think about you if i need to move on.

so the stupid/crazy/child/fairtail me is telling myself
"hey! PK-EK
she still thinks about you, deep down inside she does like you. that is why she drunk messaged you. you still have a chance with her."

FUCK!
I need a fucking drink
And tonight.... We are talking like we use too.
Saying our goodnights and sweet dreams.

But this time. I know. She doesn't love me like i love her.
And that's the only damn thing im holding onto. The only thing that will get me thru this.

If she did love me like i loved her. She would tell me that i dont need to go on a diet. And she would be more worried about my damn dog in her dealth bed. And how my manger is a cunt and i almost quit on the stop on friday.

That's it. Keep doing your thing. Keep showing me you dont love me. I dont need to hear. I need to see it. And feel it.
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I'd recommend not contacting her, and respond to her texts the next day. Be aloof. Make her wonder why you aren't available. Be inaccessible, and drive her crazy. Contact her back in a week, and see if anything has changed.

I did this to my wife when I first met her. It drove her nuts, but I definitely had her attention when I called her after a week
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