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02-22-2009, 05:37 PM
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#201 | | The sound of inevitability
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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000  God is a lie and religion is just a system of control | Really? I swear I'm going to fight stupid with stupid.
God is Almighty and those who do not believe in him shall burn forever.
Every time you drop your usual stupidity on here I'll respond in kind.
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02-22-2009, 06:08 PM
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#202 | | resident Oil Guru
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Originally Posted by ZhangFei I share similiar beliefs with [j]nBk.
We don't know if there is God or not. You can only believe. There's no person that is totally convinced of God's existence or non-existence through logic. So you can use as many arguments as you want. Nobody is convincing nobody here.
Its only your emotions that convince you whether or not God exists.
You assume and then you use "logic" to justify. YOU DON'T KNOW.
I'm willing to bet, that most arguments that people are putting forth isn't really their own ideas. Its what they saw in a movie, or what they googled on the net or what they read from a book, or what their atheist professor told them or what their pastor told them. You guys are just repeating these arguments over again and again. in some cases atheists can totally win in some arguments and in other a cases theists can win.
But in the end, you don't know whether or not God exists. | Please. By your own logic, you don't know whether a flying spaghetti monster exists or not.
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02-22-2009, 07:52 PM
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#203 | | Banned By Establishment
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Originally Posted by The7even Really? I swear I'm going to fight stupid with stupid.
God is Almighty and those who do not believe in him shall burn forever.
Every time you drop your usual stupidity on here I'll respond in kind. |
God in his many forms are all hallucinations, clever fairy tales.
God is just something people made up. These is no god, not one we know about, at least.
Religion is a system of control. This is a fact.
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02-22-2009, 07:53 PM
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#204 | | Banned By Establishment
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My farts are more real than god, at least I can smell them.
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02-22-2009, 09:01 PM
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#205 | | look at these diamonds, they shining
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i think in this world there IS a God. Though who this God is, how he/she/it is like will remain unknown. The religions such as buddhism, christianity etc. they do not provide the evidence to " illustrate " God. Therefore i just believe in God, though i am uncertain how he/she/it is.
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02-22-2009, 09:30 PM
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02-22-2009, 10:32 PM
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#207 | | Fathered more RS members than anybody else. Who's your daddy?
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Originally Posted by oniyou The religions such as buddhism, christianity etc. they do not provide the evidence to " illustrate " God. Therefore i just believe in God, though i am uncertain how he/she/it is. | There is no god in Buddhism. Never was part of the faith. In fact, it's about humans reaching the state of Nirvana. No creator. Sorry.
Personally, I believe in a driving force in nature. Not a god. If others choose to believe in god, more power to them. It does not concern me or should it concern anyone else what others believe.
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02-22-2009, 10:32 PM
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#208 | | Chinese Guy, Swedish Rides
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The more people debate this, the more of the point people miss IMHO. The more people converse, the more people can learn from each other, at least "agree to disagree."
Debate = one opinion vs another
Converse = sharing opinions without the need for one to win over another
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02-22-2009, 10:51 PM
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#209 | | Fathered more RS members than anybody else. Who's your daddy?
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Oh, the hockey gods are definitely smiling down on the Canucks! Go, Canucks, Go!!!
I will visit the Canuck shrine at work tomorrow. Montreal next.......
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Youth is, indeed, wasted on the young.
| YODO = You Only Die Once.
Dirty look from MG1 can melt steel beams.
"There must be dissonance before resolution - MG1" a musical reference.
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02-22-2009, 11:02 PM
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#210 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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Originally Posted by +Kardboard+ The more people debate this, the more of the point people miss IMHO. The more people converse, the more people can learn from each other, at least "agree to disagree."
Debate = one opinion vs another
Converse = sharing opinions without the need for one to win over another | QFT
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02-22-2009, 11:07 PM
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#211 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by matter on the topic of Dinosaurs - I always found it really weird that we can find MULTIPLE complete skeletons of some T-rex that just so happened to die by random chance in a perfect spot to be fossilized from 65 million years ago, yet we can only find a frickin piece of jawbone of some neandrathal from 10 million years ago. THe most complete skeleton of any early hominid is maybe 80% complete and only 1. Who took some anthropology and can shine some light on this for me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lution_fossils | while this is just off the top of my head, and may or may not be correct, i believe it may have something to do with the total amount of time dinosaurs inhabited the planet in comparison. among many other factors i'm sure. look it up though, i'm positive there's a very simple explanation for it
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02-22-2009, 11:13 PM
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#212 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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did any of you watch that video i'd posted? if not, i urge you to watch it in it's entirety. if you don't fully understand it the first time, watch it again until you do. from a scientific POV, it concludes that reality is only as we perceive it to be. forgive me if it's old news to some of you, but it's extremely fascinating to me.
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02-22-2009, 11:19 PM
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#213 | | Banned By Establishment
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Better question:
Does anyone think a divine being thinks you are a bad person for having sex outside of marriage?
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02-22-2009, 11:24 PM
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#214 | | Chinese Guy, Swedish Rides
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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 Better question:
Does anyone think a divine being thinks you are a bad person for having sex outside of marriage? | Yes.
Perception like welfare says. Some perceive it to be OK, some not.
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02-22-2009, 11:29 PM
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#215 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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If a "Supreme being" created the Human race by themselves, with out sex, why would he put restrictions on what that race can do for recreating?
My english sucks, but meh.
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02-22-2009, 11:30 PM
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#216 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Ive been waiting for jasons2000 to respond to my thread.
I agree completely with him. Anyone who thinks religion is not around to control us needs to give their head a shake. Then again these people need something to control them as they dont want to experience the truth because they are hypnotized by a fairy tale and probley dont have the brain power to think that all this "faith" could be wrong.
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02-22-2009, 11:41 PM
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#217 | | Chinese Guy, Swedish Rides
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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ ^
If a "Supreme being" created the Human race by themselves, with out sex, why would he put restrictions on what that race can do for recreating?
My english sucks, but meh. | ...what? 
Well, in Christianity it's God thinks sex is holy because it's under the concept of "marriage" which is the special-est bond one can ever have so hence, by extension, it's exclusive to one other person. It's recreation, yes, but to strenghthen that bond. Quote:
Originally Posted by FiveDime Ive been waiting for jasons2000 to respond to my thread.
I agree completely with him. Anyone who thinks religion is not around to control us needs to give their head a shake. Then again these people need something to control them as they dont want to experience the truth because they are hypnotized by a fairy tale and probley dont have the brain power to think that all this "faith" could be wrong. | Faith needs to be challenged. Without challenge, it'll never grow, or it'll be proven false. Religion isn't faith, they could be related, but should never be considered one and the same. Religion's messed up, but it can be good too. It's just harder to find a religion that doesn't have one or two messed up things (major things, I should be clear here) about it that don't seem to connect with the faith it supposedly represents.
My two cents, and part of my experience.
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02-23-2009, 12:05 AM
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#218 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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religion is actually much like science. we're all just looking for explanations
quite possibly, one day, science and religion will intertwine. and we will realize that amongst the great debate, we were looking at the same thing
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02-23-2009, 06:04 AM
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#219 | | Banned By Establishment
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Originally Posted by welfare religion is actually much like science. we're all just looking for explanations
quite possibly, one day, science and religion will intertwine. and we will realize that amongst the great debate, we were looking at the same thing |
Religion is based on making shit up in your head and telling people it's a fact.
The scientific method didn't come from some guy throwing a cup full of bones on the ground and telling you that you need to give him 3 goats and a sack full of pubic hairs for your wife to get pregnant on the next full moon.*
It did come from people challenging what was known as "the truth", passed down in religion. Why did it take the Church something like 400 years to finally admit that the sun did not rotate around the earth?
Also, due to the Church, science was completely fucked for hundreds and hundreds of years. Superstition has plagued, and STILL plagues mankind. There are people on earth right now who live in fear everyday that devils and angels are watching their every move! Can you imagine living your life believing that the devil gave you a cold? That an angel kept you safe when your tired popped on the highway?
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02-23-2009, 07:35 AM
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#220 | | I don't like cheese but I love milk!
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i sure hope some sort of God exist...hate the feeling that after I died, there is just going to be nothing...no conscious, no mind, no thought, and you just completely ceased to exist
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02-23-2009, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferra i sure hope some sort of God exist...hate the feeling that after I died, there is just going to be nothing...no conscious, no mind, no thought, and you just completely ceased to exist
this shit get me paranoid |
You came from nothing, became something, will goto nothing, and you'll be back again as something, somewhere, maybe even as a single drop of rain...
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02-23-2009, 09:37 AM
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02-23-2009, 09:56 AM
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#223 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by +Kardboard+ Religion's messed up, but it can be good too. It's just harder to find a religion that doesn't have one or two messed up things (major things, I should be clear here) about it that don't seem to connect with the faith it supposedly represents. | IMO, I've found out that following religion and following God can be 2 entirely different things. People can follow God without following religion, but I don't think a lot of people understand that.
Science IMO has lost some credibility anyhow. It's great but it's not as absolute as I once thought. Like religion, it's also corruptible. Pay a group of researchers enough and they will find ways to give you answers you want to hear. Hell, if I were a muti-billionaire with beverage business venture, with unlimited resources, I could probably pay a bunch of scientists to show evidence that water is actually harmful to you.
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02-23-2009, 09:57 AM
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Water is harmful, ever heard of Dihydrogen Monoxide? Harmful if you inhale it apparently.
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02-23-2009, 10:04 AM
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#225 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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