Korean Jindo dog

[wasabisashimi]

Anyone has these? how are they to train? and live with

[danlee78]

i have one, she is very obedient...to the point that it's crazy...

they are very trainable, but it's easier to train when it's a pup. I got mine when she was like 1 month old...they get big and can eat almost anything except chicken bones (i think thats with all dogs) Anyways, mine lives outside cuz she sheds like crazy and can get really big...

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

my family has two jindo mutts. duno what they're mixed with, maybe 1/4 german sheprad or something.

they like to run around and jump everywhere, and jump onto of everything (including their dog houses) and climb 6 foot fences. yeah, CLIMB. i watched them do it.

yeah ours live outside too.

[wasabisashimi]

i thought they are medium size dog . I dont want dog to live outside. Do you know what time of the year they will shed? Will they grow as big as a rottie?

[kitsune]

They are med-large in between, but their build isn't as big as a rottie for sure.
They're intelligent dogs. Possessive from my experience as well.
They're double-coated.. so they'd most likely shed the heaviest in the spring when the weather starts to get warmer.
Lots of energy!! Be prepared to take them out for exercise frequently.
I suggest getting this dog if you have experience training and living with dogs.. It's said that their intelligence is so high that it scares some people.

[wasabisashimi]

This is happening to my jindo pup (almost 4month old, getting about 35cm tall). Read below:

The puppy was given a bone to chew on due to teething, my family member approached the puppy from the side and try to pet him, him started to growl, family member again approached him closer, puppy jumped up and showed all his teeth while growling louder. He then jump towards my sister's face trying to bite her.

This behavior is unexceptable, I don't know what to do. Is it normal for dog to be so aggressive toward its owner over a bone?

Puppy is fine with dog food in a bowl, people can put hand in his bowl while he is eating, he doesnt care. But with Bone, he is super aggressive.

[quasi]

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

This is happening to my jindo pup (almost 4month old, getting about 35cm tall). Read below:

The puppy was given a bone to chew on due to teething, my family member approached the puppy from the side and try to pet him, him started to growl, family member again approached him closer, puppy jumped up and showed all his teeth while growling louder. He then jump towards my sister's face trying to bite her.

This behavior is unexceptable, I don't know what to do. Is it normal for dog to be so aggressive toward its owner over a bone?

Puppy is fine with dog food in a bowl, people can put hand in his bowl while he is eating, he doesnt care. But with Bone, he is super aggressive.

I've seen dogs do that before. From the day I got my dog I took stuff away from him on purpose so he would learn that it was acceptable and that I was the boss. He's now 6 and I've never had an issue taking anything away from him. If he ever growled at me in a menacing way like he wanted to hurt me I'd kick him in the face. Seriously, my dog knows I'd beat him down if he fucks with me in a non playful way.

You basically have to teach him that he is not that boss that you are. I'll come up behind and kneel overtop of him and grab him by the scruff of his neck. This is taken from the internet but it sounds like your dog thinks he's the alpha. I'd try applying what it says except to bones instead of food.




One of the most important steps in dog training, no matter if your new dog is a puppy, teen-ager, or young adult, is to show that you are the dominant one. The leader of the pack or the alpha.

If you don't establish this early on, you're going to have lots of aggression problems with your dog training.

So how do you show dominance with your dog?

It's pretty simple - and not mean.

Simply kneel down over your dog until he turns his head or stops struggling. This may take only one try or it may take days! But this is the first dog training step.

Now that you're the alpha - you set the dog training rules!

When feeding your dog or puppy, sit down with him and be near when he eats. Pet him, put your hand in his dog dish while he's eating, and feed him some of his food out of your hand. Also, take his food dish away for a few seconds and then give it back.

Your dog will start to understand that you're not a threat to him and he will always be fed.

Growling or aggressive behavior should never be tolerated. If your dog does growl or nip at you
during feeding or any other time, immediately scold your dog. And take his food away for a minute.

Keep doing this until this behavior stops.

[wasabisashimi]

I forcefully took the bone away while he growls and trys to bite me. Its very scary. During this process, he struggles and pees.

Is the peeing behavior fear? Later that night, I tried to walk over him and put my hand down to pet his back, he peed again.

30mins later, I tried to pick him up to put him on his bed, he peed too.

I think he hates me or something..

Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by quasi

I've seen dogs do that before. From the day I got my dog I took stuff away from him on purpose so he would learn that it was acceptable and that I was the boss. He's now 6 and I've never had an issue taking anything away from him. If he ever growled at me in a menacing way like he wanted to hurt me I'd kick him in the face. Seriously, my dog knows I'd beat him down if he fucks with me in a non playful way.

You basically have to teach him that he is not that boss that you are. I'll come up behind and kneel overtop of him and grab him by the scruff of his neck. This is taken from the internet but it sounds like your dog thinks he's the alpha. I'd try applying what it says except to bones instead of food.




One of the most important steps in dog training, no matter if your new dog is a puppy, teen-ager, or young adult, is to show that you are the dominant one. The leader of the pack or the alpha.

If you don't establish this early on, you're going to have lots of aggression problems with your dog training.

So how do you show dominance with your dog?

It's pretty simple - and not mean.

Simply kneel down over your dog until he turns his head or stops struggling. This may take only one try or it may take days! But this is the first dog training step.

Now that you're the alpha - you set the dog training rules!

When feeding your dog or puppy, sit down with him and be near when he eats. Pet him, put your hand in his dog dish while he's eating, and feed him some of his food out of your hand. Also, take his food dish away for a few seconds and then give it back.

Your dog will start to understand that you're not a threat to him and he will always be fed.

Growling or aggressive behavior should never be tolerated. If your dog does growl or nip at you
during feeding or any other time, immediately scold your dog. And take his food away for a minute.

Keep doing this until this behavior stops.

[quasi]

The peeing sounds almost complete opposite of the other behavior. I'm pretty sure dogs do that when they feel excited or are being submissive. I'm not sure how to stop that you might want to contact a dog trainer.

[kitsune]

When he's done something good, remember to praise him with affection.
I've noticed that treats don't work well since some dogs get used to only treats and fail to be obedient without treats.
Be forceful, but not abusing. Maybe you don't get that much playtime with him?
As for the aggressive bone issue.. I'd keep at it.
Whatever you do, don't back off. That just makes the dog believe that he's won over you and that you are the lower rank.
Dogs have this characteristic from wolves.. in terms of alpha and beta.
Same with my family.. when my dog was young, my brother used to play fight with him and "run away" when he barked and snapped at him. For us it was fun and games, but my dog believed that he truly scared him away.. hence tucking him in a lower rank.
Now.. my dog is obedient to everyone in my family except for my brother.. and would even snap and bite him if roughly provoked.
As for the peeing thing.. it could be because he is young. My dog used to drizzle when really happy.. but he stopped as he got older. Maybe try reprimanding him whenever he pees and make sure that he understand that it's due to the peeing?
Good luck, let us know how it goes.

[danlee78]

Are you sure you have a Jindo and not a Jondo? (John Doe)

Jindo dogs are VERY obedient to family members if you had it since it was born. If not, then it will take some getting use to for it. With the peeing problem, i've heard of peeing with excitement, but peeing when touched...hmm...i dunno about that~

[wasabisashimi]

I didnt have my jindo until he was 4 month old. I dont have any idea how he was raised. I just know that he was probably not living closely with human family and have no social skills. It was not a indoor dog before we got him. He was living in someones backyard with his mother. Hence not used to close human contact 24/7.

I want the best for him and I am trying to be patient training him. I know how smart they are and without proper training, he can easily hurt someone and get put down.

I am trying out RS members advise here about training him. I decided to hold off on giving him a bone until further training is completed to satifactory.

[wasabisashimi]

update on 1st day training:
Dog doesnt focus on my command for too long. Smallest sound or movement elsewhere will distract him.

Dog does not want to repeat action such as "sit" "stay". More than 3 times of repeating results in him walking away from me. He will walk away from me and lie down. Or he will just lie down if i ask him to sit more than 3 times. (can he get tired of sitting?)

Dog will obey 100% when he sees me pull out a treat. He has the most focus and sits the longest when i have a treat in hand. Without treat, He will listen but shortly he will not care what i command him to do. (walks away or lying down, ignoring my command)

[quasi]

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

update on 1st day training:
Dog doesnt focus on my command for too long. Smallest sound or movement elsewhere will distract him.

Dog does not want to repeat action such as "sit" "stay". More than 3 times of repeating results in him walking away from me. He will walk away from me and lie down. Or he will just lie down if i ask him to sit more than 3 times. (can he get tired of sitting?)

Dog will obey 100% when he sees me pull out a treat. He has the most focus and sits the longest when i have a treat in hand. Without treat, He will listen but shortly he will not care what i command him to do. (walks away or lying down, ignoring my command)

Try alternating with the treats. Close your hand with the treat, with my dog I can use dog food and it will have same effect as a treat so can try that. Basically if I'm hand feeding him he thinks it's something good. So put a treat in your hand and close it. Let him sniff your hand, open it then give it to him and a pat, good boy. Put another one in your hand, close it let him sniff and tell him to sit. Once he does open hand and give him the treat and pat, good boy. Now do closed hand no treat, tell him to sit when he does open hand give him a pat, good boy.

You want to alternate so your not constantly giving him treats, he doesn't know if he is or isn't going to get one. Eventually with time he'll do it with no treats.

[kitsune]

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

update on 1st day training:
Dog doesnt focus on my command for too long. Smallest sound or movement elsewhere will distract him.

Dog does not want to repeat action such as "sit" "stay". More than 3 times of repeating results in him walking away from me. He will walk away from me and lie down. Or he will just lie down if i ask him to sit more than 3 times. (can he get tired of sitting?)

Dog will obey 100% when he sees me pull out a treat. He has the most focus and sits the longest when i have a treat in hand. Without treat, He will listen but shortly he will not care what i command him to do. (walks away or lying down, ignoring my command)

Don't repeat the same command over and over. If he did it, reward him with affection/treats (REMEMBER TO ALTERNATE SO THAT HE DOESN'T ONLY DO IT FOR TREATS) Just do it once or twice to make sure he's got it. Maybe give him the treat on the second command so that he's rewarded for repeating the trick. Even my dog, who's well trained, will get pissed off if I make him do the same thing over and over.
Why are you trying to make him sit for a long time? Especially for a pup, this is tiring, not physically, to just stay still for no reason.
Just command him to sit, praise him, (and if he's up and about after this) tell him to sit again, and if he does so, give him a treat and praise him. Afterwards, switch to a different trick if he seems to have gotten the hang of 'sit', otherwise, just let him be. Intelligent or not, puppies don't have a long attention span unless you're doing something interesting.
Training puppies can't be done overnight, I suggest you take it slow, one trick a day or two, with rest and some quality bonding time in between.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

lol, whenever my dogs were puppies and they growled at me or showed aggression when i tried to take something away, i'd fucking smack them them and take it what i wanted.

if you don't show you're alpha, then they'll assume the role.

you have to be ALPHA of the pack man. you are the master.

you walk your dog, not the other way around.


my jindo mutts were like that, fucking growl at me when i tried to take their bones away or whatever, or try to move their dog bowls. i just fucking growl and yell back.

beat your dog man. well not hard. but you have to smack them once in a while, they dont learn otherwise.

and yes my jindo's sorta have the same problem as yours. they're like ADHD or some shit. they just cant focus on anything for more than 1 second.

i yell sit, they sit, then a buttery fly comes by and they'll start chasing it or some shit.

they only completely obey me when i have something they want: FOOD. haha.

oh well not my dogs really.

my chow was a lot more obedient, but that's a chow.

[wasabisashimi]

trade you my jindo for your chow chow?

[Lil Bastrd]

Don't stick to one thing. With my training classes especially for new dogs we keep the pace quick, and do lots of different things. We go from asking for a sit and count to two then praise, to teaching them to spin, to getting them to walk with the handler. keep training short and sweet. 5 to 10 minutes in a day. whether that be a quick sit count to two while you watch tv. train in lots of different places, this way they learn sit means sit everywhere.

Yes you do have to instill that you are the pack leader, but force won't accomplish this. Your rules must be set, and unwaivering. They should never change. You should have expectations (that puppy will be taught). There has to be boundaries till respect is learned. Things like having full run of the house has to be earned.

These are just some quick suggestions.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

trade you my jindo for your chow chow?

lol, i woulda never traded him for anything, lol too bad he's dead.