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Old 01-27-2009, 01:55 AM   #1
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Who makes the best 2000cc Turbo?

Basically which car/company has the best 2 liter turbo. Here are your choices:

Mitsubishi 4G63T
Toyota 3S-GTE
Nissan SR20DET
Subaru EJ20
Chevrolet LN4 (Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky)

and just for kicks:

Honda F20C
Ford 2.3 Turbo
Mazda 20B Rotary

anymore engines please contribute. I think I listed them all, but I might be mistaken.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:01 AM   #2
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4g63 or gtfo
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Technology wise.. GM LNF is probably the latest and greatest on your list.

People like to ignore the fact that engine technology move just as fast as computer technology eg new technology like DI, variable valve timing, low inertia parts (eg turbos and pistons etc).. often don't exist back in the days where "legendary" engines eg 4G63T etc were in production.
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i say 4G63 or SR20DETT is pretty good, can't say the EJ20 was as good as the other same generation engines. others i wouldnt even think abt it.
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GM or VW (turbocharged and direct injected).

If you're not direct injected, then GTFO with your lame-ass, old technology.
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GM or VW (turbocharged and direct injected).

If you're not direct injected, then GTFO with your lame-ass, old technology.
What he said.
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What turbo does the SRT-4 run?

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3SGTE man... not that I'm biased at all 300hp stock just by kicking boost up a bit before fuel injectors reach their limit, some mild upgrades get you beyond that... lots of streeted 400+whp examples running around and you can go through Aircare with half your cats gutted and still pass, it never needs any maintenance... mine is stock and I've got 125000 miles on it (over 200,000kms) and it's never had anything more than a timing belt at 70k.
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gti"s engine fsi 2.0T

or k20 + turbo
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:57 AM   #10
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EJ207! The Current engine in JDM Subaru WRX STi 2.0L Twin-Turbo engine
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when you say 2.0 turbo, the first thing that comes to mind is the vw/audi 2.0 turbo
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EJ207! The Current engine in JDM Subaru WRX STi 2.0L Twin-Turbo engine
u sure it's twin turbo, or do u want to say twin SCROLL.
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Since when is F20C a 2000cc turbo engine?
20B can hardly be classified as a 2000cc, more like a 4L engine

VW's 2.0TFSI is probably one of the most refined 2L Turbo engine out there.
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u sure it's twin turbo, or do u want to say twin SCROLL.

what he said.
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EJ207! The Current engine in JDM Subaru WRX STi 2.0L Twin-Turbo engine
The old legacy EJ20 was indeed twin turbo. Not any more though.
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Except fundamentally EA888 is very long on the tooth.. eg Iron block, VVT only on inlet, not to mention slightly off square.

Yes they sell a lot of them vs LNF, but it doesn't make them good, just competent.

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Huh?

How can you realistically use only one turbo? Considering the EJ is a boxer4, ie 2 cylinder on each side.

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The old legacy EJ20 was indeed twin turbo. Not any more though.
sequential... had a small one and a big one for top end.... but the transition was not great and it had a huge hole in the powerband
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I think Eastwood was looking for a discussion on "legacy" 2000cc turbocharged motors but meh
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i'm going to have to go with the 4g63 or the new 4b11t

for most power that is.
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For me, it's a tossup between the 3S-GTE (GenIII) and the SR20DET. I don't know anything about the 4G63 to justify anything and the EJ20 is a boxer motor with a twin turbo (old Legacy.) I'm going to discount newer motors as they're a whole different ballpark on their own.

Stock for stock with bolt-ons (I/H/E/IC/Boost Controler) you can easily run these little puppies for up to 300rwhp (+/-10 or 15hp) without spending a fortune and to have them run reliably while passing emissions.
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