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It's time Canadian retailers get up to speed on a lot of this. We're the hockey country yet we sell shit at a huge premium. The sales are never there or super late. We simply have done a half ass job keeping up competition with the market. With a country who doesn't even recognize hockey as its top 3 sports. |
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And when they tell me it's Bauer that tells them to sell it at that, I call their bullshit. I know exactly what Bauer sets their prices on with certain products. It's SC that's not following them. |
until our government lowers the duties and tariffs on hockey gear coming into Canada, I don't know if Canadian retailers can ever compete with the shops down south. Posted via RS Mobile |
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Not even a direct price match, as I believe that brink and mortar retailers offer so much more than an online store with the ability to try on, return, etc. I spend thousands a year on gear, and a lot of it is spent in Canada, but the US sites get a lot of my money because of the great selection, and better prices. Quote:
So sad. Maybe I'll like hockey house, who knows. Quote:
Ribs are tough, try not to laugh. :lol |
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AND. Bauer equipment is Canada operated. There are no import tariffs. PLUS. Bauer has updated their product pricing across the board for US and Canada (Canada is actually cheaper). No reason SC can't follow it. |
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as for skippi, yes if they priced match, i would be buying more shit from SC. I think even Langara college started price matching amazon.com (or .ca ) now as well. |
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well when do u need it? They have stick n wheel right now |
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hmmm hard to say. I'd call them up and see. I remember they having it in march.... |
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I will price match an online retailer if I were to simply show the customer a photo of the item. They can't try it on and they'll need to pay extra for shipping. If you want to bring the item home with you today, you better get Express shipping. Any sort of customer service will be limited to email or a phone number. The first sharpening on a new pair of skates will be free, but if you do so, there will be no returns. Any fit issues with your skates, please bring it to your local retailer as we can't do anything about it. I've seen tons of guys bring poorly fitted/sized skates into shops because they made their purchase with price being the number one factor. I always purchase my skates locally because if I need to alter the fit of the boot in any way I can take it back to the shop at no additional charge. If the skate still doesn't fit then they'll find another model that will. Quote:
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As far as I know Cyclones will only price match other local shops' advertised prices, not online retailers. The import tariffs will apply to Bauer products since most of their gear is made off shore. There's been much recent talk of reducing the tariffs so Canadian retailers can compete with the US. Jim Flaherty to cut hockey gear import tax: Report | Canada | News | Toronto Sun |
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With regards to matching online pricing, I think most knowledgable and saavy customers understand the realities of store shopping vs. online shopping, if the price difference was 10-20%, most would probably happily support the local shop and get that service, and this would be sustainable at MSRP. The problem comes when the online retailers start to discount and clear out their gear, that is where brick and mortar stores stand virtually zero chance of competing unless they are willing to take an operational loss or even an actual loss on the item, and hoping to 'win' the customer over with their level of service. And honestly of many of the hockey shops I've been to, the level of service is mediocre at best and I'd rather do my own online research/reviews vs. asking a 16yo 'brah' what he would recommend +1 on import tariffs and duties, they are based on country of origin/assembly and not where the parent company is based. Like anything, I also suspect volume is a huge driver to pricing as well. Although Canada is way more popular in Canada than the US, I would be surprised if the sales numbers in any way reflect this; odds are way more $$ are still sold in the US vs. Canada. It would take at least a Forzani's group to even get close to what HG, HM, IW could buy in a single shot volume wise. |
Cyclone Taylors (the store) used to act as a separately entity from CycloneTaylor.com and didn't match prices back in the day... probably around the early-mid 2000s. I can confirm they do match their online price now. They sold the Bauer Pro Series shoulders for $149.99 in store, their website said $99.99 and they honored it. |
I think Sport Chek can start matching prices on a 'per case' basis But not on a national advertised level. I will give the manager of the RC chek a call later this week to discuss, But in the mean time, don't be afraid to ask the managers nicely if they are able to price match, you might be suprised to find out about the results. U guys can PM me as to who to talk to, generally as long as we are not losing money, we will usually do it. I know if I was the GM of a store like Richmond (price sensitive but high disposiable income customers), I would totally do it, afterall, if I make no $ on protective, skate and stick, but if you guys buy other stuff like tee shirts, shoes etc from the store then that's overall more business for the store....its just good business. Posted via RS Mobile |
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I spoke w/ the Vp of purchasing for hockey, and he hopes that with the acqusition of Pro Hockey Life, we will attempt goalie again in some of the PHL stores. We tried to do goalie in some of our hockey expert stores, but our inventory turn ratio is too low to stay relevant with up to date gear. That been said, SC will price match to move the limited goalie that we do have. Posted via RS Mobile |
skiipi, any talks of Pro Hockey Life opening in BC in the near future? |
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So likely no new store openings until 2015, and I don't know if BC can support a PHL...60-70Ksqft of hockey?....where would you open it? Posted via RS Mobile |
Not all of the stores will need to be that big. When I was in Ontario/Quebec last November I visited a few Pro Hockey Life and Sports Rousseau stores. Just like Sportchek, not all of them are going to be a huge megastore like Vaughan Mills. What I liked about these stores was the selection and the ability to try sticks out before you bought them. The Vaughan Mills store also had a lot of merchandise that could be shed as well. They had a large portion of the store dedicated to sports memorabilia and novelties which they don't really specialize in. If I'm going into a hockey store looking to buy equipment, it's unlikely I will leave with books, framed photos or light switch covers. I'm not an expert on commercial real estate but it would make sense to convert an existing Sportchek that isn't doing too well into a Pro Hockey Life. Every time I go to Marine Drive and Ontario location the staff always outnumber the customers in the store. |
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We still didnt do a very good job with it. I dont know the PHL banner very well as it is, what I do know is that they will fall under the same umbrella as Sportchek and be managed at the top level by the same core group of people. As for existing sportchek's, the store that potentially could close next september is the one on Marine Way near New West that store isnt doing too well financially.....as for the Marine/Ontario store, we will likely wait another year or two to see if the condo development in the area will help draw some additional traffic...... |
About set prices on products......not always a tariff case. Also. I know a few guys that work for THS and TGC......markup on certain goalie items are actually quite high. (more than 40%) Bauer Reactor 4000 Sr. Goalie Leg Pads Bauer Reactor 4000 Senior Leg Pads - The Hockey Shop Source for Sports | Bauer, CCM, Warrior, Reebok, Vaughn, Brians, Gongshow, NHL, Goalie That being said.....maybe the reactor 4000 line isn't moving that well.... |
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and I think with the limited quantity of goalie we order, our cost sucks too and due to how much dollars it actually ties up (minimal amount), there is no analyst at our head office watching the sell-thru and trends of these goalie gear so they dont realize that it is not moving at the price they marked it up as. |
On a side note, just saw the 2013 product assortment list.... Select Hockey Expert locations will be carrying Graf Skates now...bit too late if you ask me....but better than never I guess |
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The Hockey Shop is having their sale right now and looking at some of their advertised deals they're selling some things near or below cost just to bring people through the doors and hoping they buy other things too. Quote:
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While I am a bit of a gear whore, I am not quite in tune with what is new. That being said, my biggest fear now is buying counterfeit gear. I have heard of counterfeit sticks being for sale cheap on ebay and CL. And I have heard of stories of reputable stores that were selling counterfeit Canucks jersey's during the '10 playoff run. :okay: |
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