And don't drive a BMW.

Oh damn another one eh, police need to get off their butt's, less ppl on VIs and more on actual crime

There's already specialized units for gang crimes and drug investigations... and yes they carry out numerous duty to warns when they receive inside info of possible hits, they will actually go to the intended target and inform them that they're the target of a hit and not to go out. Does that stop them though?

What else can they do? Become psychic?

Looks like there may be a 3rd victim a female who survived. Social media claiming her father is a cop.

I don’t think she survived. Saw someone post RIP on her ig

Investigate the murders, make arrests, give chase to criminals especially when they shot up the airport, send the chopper in to tail em, as the ert gets ready, make fkn arrests

Dot their i's n cross their t's cuz even when they manage to put a case together, their work is so fucken sloppy that any suspect with a lawyer worth their salt doesn't get off bcuz of it (like many do)

What makes you think none of those things do happen?

I will admit, I'm not sure why the helicopter wasn't employed in the airport shooting, I have yet to get an answer for that one... but there's very clear reasons why they did not chase that vehicle running from the airport.

Investigations take time, getting info takes time... they may well know exactly who was responsible... but knowing and proving in court are two VERY different things. VERY different.

The work isn't sloppy, some people are fucktards here and there like in any profession, like the Surrey 6 murders there were some idiots involved in that investigation (guy who slept with the witness) but sloppy? I don't think so. IHIT has extremely high standards.

The public just want to see some type of progress being made here. How many shootings have there been yet has there been any arrests? They dont want to see whiterock police posting there Vehicle Inspection picture, or hear modified cars getting VId or see/hear other useless shit police do in the midst of this gang warfare we have going on right now. I know u said its a different department and they cant just jump into a different department but at the very least they can try to make it seem like they are all on the same page here. Show the public at the very least that their #1 priority is about public safety right now. Not be like "Well this is IHITs problem, they can handle it, ill just continue drinking my morning coffee" Fair or Unfair but thats how the public sees it imo.

That's always been a disconnect, the RCMP is a paramilitary organization, and although every organization is political, they don't tend to engage in politics if you know what I mean.

For example IHIT employs a spokesperson, Frank Jang, he's their media liaison... but his role is to relate the facts of the invesitgation, as much as they're allowed, to the public... and ask for assistance from witnesses. His mandate isn't to grandstand and tell everyone it's going to be okay and they're going to get these guys... they've long ago chosen to remain factual rather than political with their news conferences.

Perhaps the RCMP needs to rethink its approach with the media and employ someone who says more gratuitous things and makes promises so people feel more warm and fuzzy inside I guess.

Most of the things you listed are a public safety issue though, you're just deciding for yourself what is a priority or not... someone else may not give a shit at all that gangsters are shooting each other up and prefers the police pull over speeders all day because they think cars speeding are dangerous. Another person thinks the should sit outside bars every night and breathalyze everybody that leaves. It's not so much excusing oneself from doing something about it, it's more so that you trust your comrades that the appropriate investigations are taking place and that you just keep your eyes peeled an extra bit while you're out doing your designated tasks.

No matter what they do, someone is pissed at them or thinks they should be doing something else that's more a priority in their own mind.

We have evidence over the years that those things don't happen, and don't lead anywhere.From quotes that amount to "/shrug" and a lack of results
The work is very sloppy I know that for a fact from working for Crown, then def attorneys years ago, go sit in some trials, even the successful ones have a nice slathering of sloppiness

What's the result of that sloppiness? Ppl blame our justice system for being easy on crime, its not, its just the shitty job the investigators do which allow cases to fall apart, or not amount to harsher convictions

actually there's a big list of things before becoming psychic.

becoming more totalitarian is on that list.

whoever commented they should do more... lol, they are already doing more under current circumstances and rights and freedoms.

"more" you mean having check points at every corner, police and military standing around checking your ID. Curfews and other things? cops being able to bust through your door without a warrant? people disappearing for no reason and getting interrogated for information? that's what "more" would look like.

trust me you don't want more. all the kills are targeted. I'm "fine" with that. They rarely kill innocents. I'd rather have this than random mass killing sprees. by a long shot too.

the cops giving you VI's are not the same cops doing investigation and doing undercover shit lol.

harsher convictions don't amount to anything except satisfying the ego of those who like to see people get punished.

the crime rate wouldn't fall. No one cares about the punishment except the perverts who get to dish it. you could reinstate capital punishment and the same results would still happen.

The truth is that none of the above, although well meaning, works. See the Bacon brothers. Guy pleaded guilty to conspiracy to Surrey 6 murder and he got 5 years . With parole, what is that 2.5 years? He was a pretty high up.

If they do catch the pawn that pulled the trigger at the airport or at Market Crossing, probably a young member who wants to rise up the ranks of the gang ... he (presumably) is SO expendable. Gang would shrug it off if guy was caught and 10 others would be willing to do the next hit.

Only solution is to have a dance off like the movies or my previous suggestion, which was a bit sarcastic humour but now not a bad solution, put them all in a room and let these low life vermins kill themselves without endangering the public. Who the hell needs these gangs on the earth anyways?

A while back ago, the Philippine President got into sh*t because he said something like, gang members, if we catch you, we will execute you. Kind of starting to like him.

She was a cactus server. Who was with the gangster.

no indoor dining, only outdoor patio, you really can just do a drive by eh?

There probably wasn't enough time to deploy the chopper.

I mean, shots fired and the perps drive away. It was just sheer luck an officer was in their vehicle near by and was able to chase till shots were fired.

Sheer luck there are police officers at an international airport?

I would hope the police are monitoring social media etc. But I’m seeing these images being thrown around in some group chats basically EI guys who don’t even live in Vancouver/Canada seemingly calling the next hit, saying this guy or that guy is next lol...so I would hope the police are at the very least in the loop on stuff like that..

As cruel as this may sound. If they are known to be associated with gangs, medical help should not be offered to these individuals. These idiots have no regards for the safety of others, so why should the regular folks like us have to give a shit about them?

Okay you draw the line up of where someone is worth saving or not saving in each situation man... have fun with the ethics and morality of that argument. Hope nobody ever has to be in a society where your clout score decides if you’re cool / good / valuable enough to do anything about.

Paramedics roll up on a shooting and be like “Hold up hold up we need to determine your affiliations and why you were shot before we can proceed with treatment” ???

Yet when you say "Anti-vaxxers should be denied healthcare if they catch Covid" the 'Thanks' are through the roof lol

Wow. That's a mighty lot like China's social status scores.

No thanks to that.

This is a terrible comparison.

How so, even though neither would ever happen it's about denying healthcare to people based off bad decisions they make.

In (the old) Hong Kong, (old) Macau, and even Singapore, if anything as serious as what we are seeing right now with the shootings were to happen, you can bet that the police will be out arresting the gang bosses' a$$s with charges that may or may not be related to the shootings. IMO, in terms of public safety and sending a message to the gang leaders, the lack of action, in fact or perception, is weakening public trust in the police + gov institutions. Worse yet is how it gives the public, including the gang leaders themselves, that the gang leaders are above the law. Even for the police force themselves, when serious, violent crimes are happening as frequently as they are now, it has to be a major downer for police morale. In any organization, poor morale is never a good thing.

If someone is telling me that the police has absolutely no dirt on gang leaders for lesser, but still detainment worthy crimes, I'd be quite disappointed.

Context is important here.

A gang member getting shot isn't the same as someone who's actively getting others and themselves infected. An anti-vaxxer who has COVID is competing for the same resource as those that have it through no fault of their own.

I don't know any gangsters that actively invite getting themselves to get shot.

I'm not saying that I approve of either and I have no sympathy either way.