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parm104 11-01-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Culverin (Post 7672176)
See my previous comment...

I'm not responding after this...You're not making consistent comments.

You initiated by saying that I shouldn't assume that the kid is a "good kid" and I pointed out to you that I never assumed, I said it "seems" like he is.

You have failed to appreciate the difference between saying something that is known to be true and something that is perceived to be true.

Then you said "good kids don't carry batons"...Again, implying that the kid (the one that passed away, the one we are arguing about) was carrying a baton. That's a DIFFERENT point from "good kids don't hang out with kids that carry batons." Try and be consistent and accountable for the things you post. If you're shown to be wrong about something (not saying you're opinion is wrong about the entire situation) admit to it, move on and respond in an appropriate matter than continuing to argue nonsense like you are.

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Originally Posted by Gh0stRider (Post 7672132)
i was right at that intersection. gave all the info to news1130.

few mins later, found out it was a shooting via twitter.

gotta love twitter

I couldn't agree more. I've noticed recently that if you want to get news first, News1130 Twitter account is the place to be. It takes the website awhile to publish information in a presentable manner vs Twitter posts that are immediately published.

Irrelevant whether you posted one thing earlier, your latest post contradicted what you had posted earlier implying that not only was the murdered boy hanging out with a kid who had a baton (making him bad) but also that he was CARRYING a baton (again, making him bad.)

shawnly1000 11-06-2011 08:57 AM

Shooting in Vancouver at Ash and 7th

Update: One dead

adambomb 11-06-2011 09:14 AM

Damn, I love RS. :fullofwin: Its quicker on shooting updates than any other media outlet.

Its almost like the shooters post on here after they wack someone. hahaha...I joke, I joke. :gun:

Culverin 11-06-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parm104 (Post 7672679)
I'm not responding after this...You're not making consistent comments.

You initiated by saying that I shouldn't assume that the kid is a "good kid" and I pointed out to you that I never assumed, I said it "seems" like he is.

You have failed to appreciate the difference between saying something that is known to be true and something that is perceived to be true.

Then you said "good kids don't carry batons"...Again, implying that the kid (the one that passed away, the one we are arguing about) was carrying a baton. That's a DIFFERENT point from "good kids don't hang out with kids that carry batons." Try and be consistent and accountable for the things you post. If you're shown to be wrong about something (not saying you're opinion is wrong about the entire situation) admit to it, move on and respond in an appropriate matter than continuing to argue nonsense like you are.

Dude... the 2nd one was a typo...
I'll be accountable to my typo... Sorry about the inconsistency.

StylinRed 11-06-2011 07:21 PM

Bolan says its a UN guy Axel Curtis Shot to Death at 7th and Ash in Vancouver – UPDATE | Vancouver Sun

dub.g 11-06-2011 09:47 PM

here is something that surprisingly went low key...


Bal Buttar died from infection yesterday

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Gang hitman and blind quadriplegic Bal Buttar, who for years terrorized rivals across the Lower Mainland, has died after suffering an infection in a long-term care facility.

Funeral services for Buttar, 35, were held quietly Wednesday at Delta's Riverside crematorium, The Vancouver Sun has learned.

Buttar, who was paralyzed in an August 2001 Vancouver shooting, turned to a Sun reporter in 2004 and confessed to a string of gangland hits.

He admitted he arranged the execution of notorious cocaine trafficker Bindy Johal, his own crime boss at the time, fearing Johal would turn on him if he didn't kill first. Buttar claimed he found God and wanted to steer kids away from the path he had chosen. And he said that he didn't fear the consequence of his confessions because his severe medical needs meant he couldn't really go to jail.

He was never charged in any of the murders.

Buttar's reformation didn't last long. In 2007, despite being bed-ridden and hospitalized, he attempted to arrange a hitman for an acquaintance who wanted to kill her husband. Earlier this year, he pleaded guilty in that case.

Police are calling the drawn-out demise of the notorious gangster the end of an era.

They said the ruthless way Johal, Buttar and their contemporaries dealt with each other in the 1990s spurred on the current generation of violent The Vancouver Sun L gangsters who take to public streets to resolve their conflicts.

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McCluskie, a longtime Vancouver police officer, dealt with Buttar and his brothers Manny and Kelly, many times, going back to the mid-1990s. Bar Height

Kelly Buttar was gunned down in December 2001, while Manny is before the courts on a number of charges.

"Bal and his brother were actively involved in some very serious incidents back in my Vancouver days. Kidnappings and extortions," McCluskie said. "He seemed to be at the centre of a lot of the crime that was going on at the time in the Lower Mainland."

Const. Doug Spencer, a former VPD gang specialist who is now with Transit police, also had many dealings with Buttar.

"I know he was an extremely violent hitman who did all of Bindy's collecting and killing - self-admitted - he carried a reputation all over the Lower Mainland. Everyone knew him," Spencer said.

After his catastrophic injuries, "he went from this absolutely tough, untouchable guy to just a mere crumble of what he used to be."

Spencer heard from officers who guarded Buttar in hospital that the gangster had tears streaming down his face every morning after he learned his brother had been killed.

Buttar grew up in Richmond and was involved in petty crime as a teenager. But his criminal career heated up after he became a cellmate of Johal's in early 1997.


In a series of interviews between 2004 and 2007, Buttar not only admitted to killing Johal, but he also said he was involved in the July 1998 Vancouver murder of Vinuse News MacKenzie, the unsuccessful October 1998 attempt on Johal associate Peter Gill's life, the September 1999 hits on Kuldip Singh and Vikash Naidu in Richmond, the March 2002 slaying of Jaskaran Singh Chima and the June 2002 murder of high-profile gangster Robbie Kandola outside his Coal Harbour apartment. The last two were done by Buttar's crew in retaliation for the murder of his brother, he said.

He lived his final years in a longterm care facility, listening to shows on television and receiving very few visitors. He told The Sun he still had bullet fragments embedded in his brain. His speech was often slurred and he struggled to move his head from side to side.

Spencer, who does presentations to students about the dangers of gang life, said Buttar was the poster child of the worst possible fate.

"He was living an existence worse than death," Spencer said.

Buttar's gang was "the first that went right out there and was ripping off other drug dealers on a regular basis," Spencer said. "They also started a taxing thing - if you didn't pay them tax, you couldn't sell drugs in their area."

Many of the gangsters engaged in the violent lifestyle today wanted to be like Johal and Buttar, Spencer said.

"That's who they were aspiring to be. And now a second generation of them are starting to suffer the same consequences - death, jail, drug addiction," he said.


Read more: Notorious gang hitman Bal Buttar succumbs to infection at age 35
Notorious gang hitman Bal Buttar succumbs to infection at age 35

originalhypa 11-07-2011 12:33 PM

Axel Curtis facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php...ends&v=friends

Nothing too special, except he had Criminal defence attorney David Karp on his friends list. He's a nice guy to have on your side when you're in the game.

ToneCapone 11-07-2011 02:52 PM

The Gangster Next Door - Part 1 of 4 - YouTube

Someone posted this vid on vancouver sun comments. @8:10 the cop walks up to Curtis.

spideyv2 11-07-2011 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dub.g (Post 7679594)
here is something that surprisingly went low key...


Bal Buttar died from infection yesterday


Notorious gang hitman Bal Buttar succumbs to infection at age 35

End of an era
Posted via RS Mobile

parm104 11-07-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 7680309)
End of an era
Posted via RS Mobile

End of a loser...


Quote:

Originally Posted by originalhypa (Post 7680052)
Axel Curtis facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php...ends&v=friends

Nothing too special, except he had Criminal defence attorney David Karp on his friends list. He's a nice guy to have on your side when you're in the game.

Plus some hot girls with public profiles.

originalhypa 11-08-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by parm104 (Post 7680456)
Plus some hot girls with public profiles.

:lol

I'll admit, I checked them out. But really..... Gang groupies, not even once.

Death2Theft 11-12-2011 08:11 PM

26th between heather and ash 8 cop cars and block roped off. Possible shooting?

Jermyzy 11-20-2011 01:02 PM

Man shot in the face in Richmond, B.C. - Yahoo! News

"..One person is in stable condition in hospital after being shot in the face during an altercation in Richmond, B.C., early Sunday morning.

Police say it appears two groups of men got into an argument in a parking lot near a local hotel and restaurant in the 10000 block of Cambie Street at about 1 a.m. PT.

A gun was pulled, and a 23-year-old Surrey man was shot in the face. The victim, whose name has not been released, was taken to a local hospital.

Investigators are interviewing witnesses in the hopes of identifying those involved.

Police say the victim does not appear to have any ties to gangs or drugs.

..."

StylinRed 11-20-2011 01:49 PM

^^ ye just read that on news1130 happened outside the holiday inn supposedly none of those in the group that got shot @ have any known gang links


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RICHMOND (NEWS1130) - A man has been shot in the face in Richmond. It happened around 1 a.m. at Cambie Road and St. Edwards Drive.

The shooting happened right in front of the Holiday Inn and Richmond RCMP are still trying to track down any potential suspects. Mounties say two groups of men were talking when as one of the groups was leaving, someone pulled out a gun and shot the 23-year-old in the face.

The group which the victim belonged to has no gang or drug related ties. Serious Crime investigators will be speaking with witnesses throughout the day.
Suspects sought after man shot in face - News1130

CrisQo 11-20-2011 04:24 PM

all I could think when I read the headline one news1130 is 'pow, right in the kisser'

Death2Theft 11-20-2011 05:11 PM

Bet he prefers the kisser than the pisser nawwadimeen?
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrisQo (Post 7696454)
all I could think when I read the headline one news1130 is 'pow, right in the kisser'


slowride 11-24-2011 09:33 AM

Sucks to hear about the guy gettin shot in the face! fitty cent styles!

StylinRed 11-27-2011 10:06 PM

looks like some guy was shot in Maple Ridge on Saturday


Man shot in Maple Ridge has links to drug trade

dee242 11-27-2011 11:32 PM

y dont i hear about these on the news

DJ Milk 11-28-2011 02:03 AM

It was on the news last night but they didn't die so it's not really a big story

StylinRed 11-28-2011 02:15 AM

a house was shot @ in surrey today too (well sunday)

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/a...in-maple-ridge

G-spec 11-28-2011 01:09 PM

There was a shooting in the lobby of my brothers apt building last night, cops been investigating lobby all day.. he heard 6 shots and he on the 9th floor.
This is one of the newer high rises right by patterson skytrain, any news on it ?
I work out there gym right next to the lobby, so this sorta worries me
Posted via RS Mobile

StylinRed 11-28-2011 01:20 PM

write about it in the comments section of kim bolans blog Kim Bolan | Vancouver Sun (u can be anonymous if u want; but leave an address so she knows what building)

and she'll call the police and probably do a story about it and then you can find out more about it

Mr.C 11-28-2011 10:40 PM

Shooting near the Pho Hoa on 104. Tons of cops here, constable knocked at my door to ask for a statement. I was too busy listening to techno and vacuuming my apartment, but the thought of a stray bullet maybe hitting me, in Canada of all fucking places, is depressing.

StylinRed 11-29-2011 04:06 PM

the following post isn't written by me im just quoting Kim Bolan after doing what i suggested for you to do GSpec :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by G-spec (Post 7706740)
There was a shooting in the lobby of my brothers apt building last night, cops been investigating lobby all day.. he heard 6 shots and he on the 9th floor.
This is one of the newer high rises right by patterson skytrain, any news on it ?
I work out there gym right next to the lobby, so this sorta worries me
Posted via RS Mobile

Gunmen sought in targeted Burnaby shooting

KBolan: It was in the 4300-block Central Boulevard – a building called The Presidia.


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Originally Posted by Mr.C (Post 7707511)
Shooting near the Pho Hoa on 104. Tons of cops here, constable knocked at my door to ask for a statement. I was too busy listening to techno and vacuuming my apartment, but the thought of a stray bullet maybe hitting me, in Canada of all fucking places, is depressing.


KBolan: I also heard something about a Surrey one Sunday about 6:30 a.m., in the 8200-block 122A Street. No one was injured.


KBolan: I agree that it is troubling that we are not writing up each of these. For starters, our newsrooms are much smaller, so there are fewer reporters on shift during the weekends and evenings when most of these happen. Secondly, some RCMP detachments, do NOT send out releases when these shootings take place, so we don’t always hear about them, which is unfortunate. Neither Burnaby nor Surrey did a release on these two shootings. By contrast, Maple Ridge did, which is why we all did stories. There used to be a more comprehensive central RCMP data base of news releases. Now that data base only has releases that have been translated into French. So we have to fish through individial detachment’s sites looking for new releases, which is very time-consuming. Having said that, I did search both Burnaby and Surrey’s sites looking for details of these shootings, and neither has a posting about their incident.


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