The shootings thread!

[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by BurnoutBinLaden

G wagen, Morgan Crossing...most certainly organized crime.

I will never understand. People come from privileged/affluent backgrounds and have a world of opportunity at their fingertips, but instead of staying on the straight and narrow, they turn to drugs. Then they end up six feet under before their 30th birthday.

Good motherfuckin' riddance.

Who wants to slave away and build a business or deal with office politics when you can drive fast cars and have women come and go when all you have to do is sell a few things and make cash?

YOLO, my friend, YOLO.

[BurnoutBinLaden]

Originally Posted by Tapioca

Who wants to slave away and build a business or deal with office politics when you can drive fast cars and have women come and go when all you have to do is sell a few things and make cash?

YOLO, my friend, YOLO.

Can't argue with that.

[threezero]

How do you guys know they didn't try to settle it with with the fist first? They could of have numerous fight before escalating to using gun. Fist fight aint usually reported by the media.



And yes legalize marijuana please.
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[dangonay]

Originally Posted by BurnoutBinLaden

The shootings are going to keep happening until the US pulls the stick out of its ass over cannabis prohibition. In fact, if all drugs were legalized, organized crime would be dealt a devastating blow.

Bull. Organized crime always finds new opportunities. If pot is legalized they'll concentrate more on cocaine and heroin. If those get legalized for addicts then they'll concentrate on ecstasy or other pills. Then there's the old stand-bys of loan sharking, extortion, prostitution or gambling. Organized crime will always find somewhere to make money.
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[BurnoutBinLaden]

Actually, I wouldn't mind a world where prostitution and gambling are fully legal. I never understood why governments decide what we can voluntarily do with our bodies. To attract the Helen Lovejoy vote?

[BurnoutBinLaden]

Oh yeah, and this is super old, but a UN gangster who murdered an innocent man was sentenced to life in February:

Engagement ring killer gets life in prison - British Columbia - CBC News

[StylinRed]

Police shot a lady who was wielding a pair of scissors and supposedly tried to attack the police with them

Vancouver police shoot alleged knife-wielding woman - British Columbia - CBC News


on Lakewood few blocks away from Templeton

I know the article says Knife but on tv just now its changed to scissors and they showed a pair on the ground

[murd0c]

and why didn't they use a Taser or just shoot her in the shoulder or leg?

[vitaminG]

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[GLOW]

Originally Posted by murd0c

and why didn't they use a Taser or just shoot her in the shoulder or leg?

i believe they are trained shoot for the body as it yields the highest rate of success.

[seakrait]

Originally Posted by murd0c

and why didn't they use a Taser or just shoot her in the shoulder or leg?

Originally Posted by vitaminG

not every cop is equipped with a a taser.

if you shoot, you aim for center mass and shoot to kill. no half measures

The article does say she's in stable condition though.

They need to invent a non-lethal device that can be deployed from a distance that incapacitates via physical restraint rather than by pain as a suspect, hopped up on meds and crazy voices, won't always feel the effects of pepper spray/taser/beanbags/baton rounds/etc.

Edit: like a net gun! http://www.codaenterprises.com/products.html

[dlo]

Surrey homicide: Police to release names of gangsters, ask businesses to shun their 'dirty money'

[StylinRed]

think the police are asking for lawsuits by naming names as for asking for businesses to turn business away...like that'll happen

the police should get off their asses and solve some crimes and not continue with the attitude of "hey they're just targeting each other don't worry" "as soon as we get close in the investigation suspects are killed"

even now all they're doing is wagging their fingers and going "hey murderers you're going too far we're telling"

[vitaminG]

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[GLOW]

Originally Posted by seakrait

The article does say she's in stable condition though.

They need to invent a non-lethal device that can be deployed from a distance that incapacitates via physical restraint rather than by pain as a suspect, hopped up on meds and crazy voices, won't always feel the effects of pepper spray/taser/beanbags/baton rounds/etc.

Edit: like a net gun!

don't they have a bean bag gun and had criticism that it caused injuries, or am i thinking of rubber bullets.

[seakrait]

Originally Posted by GLOW

don't they have a bean bag gun and had criticism that it caused injuries, or am i thinking of rubber bullets.

yeah, pretty sure beanbag rounds/rubber bullets/wood batons are/were part of the non-lethal arsenal... but all those are pain compliance tools which depend on the suspect being distracted by the pain of these rounds hitting them to drop the knife/stop charging with the knife/etc.

And since tasers are all up in the air as to whether they're safe for use, i'm not sure what else the police have to use against crazy knife-wielding suspects besides their 9mm/.40 cal sidearms from a standoff distance.

[Lowered_Klass]

According to @scanbc, a male was shot this evening at Haney Place Mall out in Maple Ridge. Air Ambulance landed in parking lot.

That area can be a bit sketchy, but there are so many people out and around there.

[StylinRed]

the police department is right there too

[achiam]

Long shot, but does anyone here live in the Fraserview area of Vancouver? There was a huge swarm of cops surrounding this one house (62/Gladstone) on Friday, and the house and adjacent street is still yellow-taped off with a cop guarding it 24/7. I asked the cop what happened and he said "I'd rather not say." No mention in the news though.

[Kidnapman]

da fuck srs? Never heard about it. I know a lot of ppl in that area and no word about a house with yellow tape. I drive by there every once in awhile. That neighborhood is usually pretty quite, wonder wat destroyed the peace all of a sudden.

[Graeme S]

Originally Posted by achiam

Long shot, but does anyone here live in the Fraserview area of Vancouver? There was a huge swarm of cops surrounding this one house (62/Gladstone) on Friday, and the house and adjacent street is still yellow-taped off with a cop guarding it 24/7. I asked the cop what happened and he said "I'd rather not say." No mention in the news though.

There was a drug lab down the street from me awhile ago. I used to come back from work/dates late in the evening and would walk up the alley to my house and be greeted by cops shining the light from their patrol car in my face. I guess they were trying to make sure nobody busted back in to try and salvage anything.

Anyways, the cleanup took about a week, and there was nothing in the news about it until they were done.

[SpartanAir]

Originally Posted by StylinRed

Police shot a lady who was wielding a pair of scissors and supposedly tried to attack the police with them

Vancouver police shoot alleged knife-wielding woman - British Columbia - CBC News


on Lakewood few blocks away from Templeton

I know the article says Knife but on tv just now its changed to scissors and they showed a pair on the ground

This woman is a friend of mine, I've talked to her since. She came out yelling with a knife and was apparently shot with both legs. She is a good hearted and intellignent young woman but I learned that she was possibly off her prescription drugs, and judging from her tendency to constantly need attention, I'm not surprised this happened in a way.

But I still don't get why cops can't use rubber bullets, mace, tasers etc ANYTHING but real bullets? She can't work now as she is recovering from bullet wounds.

[Graeme S]

Originally Posted by SpartanAir

This woman is a friend of mine, I've talked to her since. She came out yelling with a knife and was apparently shot with both legs. She is a good hearted and intellignent young woman but I learned that she was possibly off her prescription drugs, and judging from her tendency to constantly need attention, I'm not surprised this happened in a way.

But I still don't get why cops can't use rubber bullets, mace, tasers etc ANYTHING but real bullets? She can't work now as she is recovering from bullet wounds.

Rubber bullets: not reliable in a real crisis standoff; hard to load both into a gun and choose.
Mace: only useful at close range and when you're at risk of a knife fight, close range can mean death.
Tasers: risk of heart attack when chest is compressed after tazing (which is to say, what they normally do after they immobilize you; flip you over, arms behind the back, knee to the shoulderblade).

[scottsman]

Who cares if she can't work. She attacked police officers with a knife/scissors, i think that is the least of her worries.

It doesn't seem fair to ask the police to respond to a situation that puts them in a position to risk their own lives and expect them to use a less lethal option than what they are being attacked with.

[G]

Young woman wielding a pair of scissors (or a knife) versus police officers that have probably 50-100 lbs on her and are probably trained in disarming as well as other tactical fighting and they opt to shoot her in both her legs? Seems kind of fucked up to me IMO.