LOL @ everyone thinking just because a cop is stronger and "trained" for that kinda shit that they are supposed to use it. In the end if a cop has to defend themselves that's what they'll do and they aren't trained to be kung fu masters you can't expect them to run in and disarm her without hurting themselves or her.

I'd probably be the first to shit on cops for corruption and brutality, but come on guys. Cops do go through a lot of shit so if you ask him to go disarm some psycho jason bourne style and risk getting slashed, do you really think he would want to?

young woman with scissors = psycho jason bourne style?

:fulloffuck:

I meant we expect the cop to be a jason bourne.

Ah ok.

With that, I still don't see the use of shooting a young woman yielding a pair of scissors in both her legs in order to detain/control her. From what I remember, there was some man holding a sword or something downtown and the police used methods such as taser and riot bullets etc to detain him. Perhaps this was situational, but I still can't find a reason for such actions.

Honestly, she's really lucky. Remember that guy swinging a chain? They shot him in the torso like ten times. Typically cops are trained to aim for the centre of mass...which means realistically, she should be dead now.

a bit OT but FYI, IIRC, rubber bullets are actually shot out of shotguns. It's not like cops have two types of magazines for their sidearms, one for live rounds and one for rubber bullets. The rounds themselves are about 1" in diameter i think. Same with beanbag rounds. Both are loaded into shotgun shells. I'm not sure if it's a budget issue or a risk issue that not all cops are equipped/trained with rubber bullets/beanbag gun (in fact, probably only a minority are) but they still can be lethal (depending on where the suspect is hit and how close they are when the shot goes off).

i guess it's the same reason our cops don't use pepperballs for riot control as well. shooting capsaicin-filled paintballs at people could still be pretty deadly. boston PD killed a girl with one back in the day. anyway, with all of these non-lethal rounds, they're supposed to shoot below the waist. [end of ramble]

my vote is still for a sticky net gun.

ive watched a few documentaries on the uprising in middle east and specifically egypt and they said a tactic that the riot control groups use now is to aim rubber bullets into the chest/head now trying to purposely blind protesters

Something like this?

I've never had the police shoot me mind you it's not to often I come at then with knives. My solution to not get shot would involve not waving guns or knives around or at cops but I'm not that original.

In that situation on Burrard St, the subject with the sword was not really advancing in a threatening manner with the weapon towards the officers or public. The subject was mostly pacing back and forth and yelling rants then attempted to flee without advancing in a threatening manner with the weapon.

What is different I believe in this situation is that the subject with the scissors advanced towards officers with the weapon in a threatening manner. Anytime a subject advances towards you with any weapon, be it a chain, scissors, brick, etc you are trained to open fire center mass. This lady was lucky she only got shot in the legs IMO. Also not all officers are deployed with ARWIN/crowd control weapons.

It still seems like an excessive amount of force given a situation where a subject advances toward you with a weapon that does not seem lethal (Brick, scissors). Also, out of curiosity, at what point does something become considered a weapon?

I can agree with that viewpoint/rationale though.

Anything is can be lethal. Im pretty sure I can kill you with a pair of scissors if I stabbed you in the heart. Cops have to go for the kill. Its possible for someone to get shot 3-4 times in the leg and still find ths strength to lunge forward at an attacker because of adrenAline.
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Self preservation/protection is always the first priority.

Trust me, both a brick and scissors can be used as weapons. At what point does something become a weapon? When the intention of harm is placed on said object.

There have been some shootings in Surrey/Langely since the last time this thread was updated but iirc no deaths


A shooting happened in Abbotsford yesterday at 5:15pm! based off of multiple articles the victim, south asian in 20's, died in hospital and was in a dark coloured bmw when he was shot in a parking lot, witnesses indicate that there were more people in the car with the victim but police say only the victim was present when they arrived; there'll be an update by IHIT later today.

Driver fatally shot near busy Abbotsford intersection | News1130

^^^ Victim has been identified

Abbotsford Shooting victim tied to accused in Bacon killing | News1130

"A male shot at multiple people on the street (Main St & E 26th Ave) and then shot himself in the head. No other victims other than the shooter. "
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Heres the story

Man shoots at others; turns gun on himself | News1130

Crazy.
It'll be nice to know why he did it.

wow. he shot himself in the head and survived that?

i dont wanna be the guy to say it... but why waste the resources saving someone like that...

easier on society to have just let him pass away.. someone else could be using that hospital bed, using the court system and the mental hospital/jail he will be placed in...

The guy died in hospital, I assumed it was suicide or he was high on drugs.

Random acts of violence scare me the most. It's no longer about whom you associate yourself with, it's just being in the wrong place in the wrong time.

Thankfully, and not meaning to bring light to this terrible incident, the asshole must have had pretty terrible marksmanship skills.

This isn't Russia or China. If you really believe in such a notion, perhaps you're living in the wrong country.

Stabbing on Friday, Two dead in separate stabbings in Vancouver and Surrey early Friday

there've been a tonne of shootings/deaths since the last time this thread was updated too

think we've all grown accustomed to it :/

last couple months it seems to be teenagers doing the stabbings/shootings/killings which is :fulloffuck:

R.I.P VN