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i was watching Qualifying it was so weird when Massa crashed its like the broadcasters had no idea what to do (sound kept cutting out etc)
heck everyone was just standing around
and when they finally continued with qualifying and finished the commentaters just said "cya tomorrow" and left but they were still broadcasting for about 10mins
and they were trying to figure out the final order, since the times just disappeared off the computers and screen
kind of an update on f1.com Quote:
Felipe Massa’s condition was described as ‘stable’ on Sunday morning, with Ferrari confirming that there were no complications overnight following the Brazilian’s successful surgery for a skull fracture at Budapest’s AEK Hospital.
Massa sustained the fracture and concussion during his high-speed crash at the Hungaroring in Saturday’s qualifying session, in which he was struck on the head by a spring from the Brawn car of Rubens Barrichello.
After surgery he was put into an induced coma, a standard procedure following such an operation, and remained under observation in intensive care overnight.
"After undergoing an operation yesterday afternoon, Felipe Massa's condition remains stable and there were no further complications through the night,” said a Ferrari statement.
"He will be given another CT scan today, which will provide more precise information."
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anyone watching Nicole Sherzinger jumping up and down? how the hell did Hamilton bag her
edit: WOW Alonso just totally lost his wheel... sucks for him he was doing great ;/
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07-26-2009, 07:03 AM
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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH HAMILTON.
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Not a bad race. Step up in terms of entertainment value over the past couple.
Fingers crossed for Sutil that his car eventually starts performing up to its potential on a more reliable basis, and that he and Kimi stop hitting each other.
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Originally Posted by Eff-1  Not a bad race. Step up in terms of entertainment value over the past couple.
Fingers crossed for Sutil that his car eventually starts performing up to its potential on a more reliable basis, and that Kimi stops hitting him. | fixed your post.
Good race, but I thought Germany was better. Looks like Mclaren's work has paid off a bit hasn't it? Pity about Alonso's wheel mishap - it was good to see him in the mix again and I would have liked to see what he could have done on the 3-stopper.
I really love what I'm seeing in the mid-field. Williams and Toyota are in the pionts and fighting hard. It seems like the really big disappointments in the grid are Toro Rosso and BMW.
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07-27-2009, 09:31 PM
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So looks like Massa's racing career is over (they think his Left eye is done) and people are speculating that Schumacher will be his replacement driver
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No, all european news speculations. Take it with a grain of salt.
His eye socket was damaged, but the optic nerves are fine. I believe it will take a while for him to recover; but his career will not be over.
Schumacher will not be the replacement driver because 1) he doesn't have a super license anymore; 2) he does not have anything to gain from driving; and 3) he will not do that to Massa. Marc Gene will most probably be the replacement driver as they probably won't want to repeat the same mistake in 1999.
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Holy shit, two similar accidents within days of each other with two vastly different outcomes. Massa is very fortunate to be alive, unlike John Surtees' son, Henry. For those of you who do not know, Henry Surtees was the son of John Surtees, the only man to have won world championships in F1 (1 time) and the Motorcycle World Championship (7 times). Henry was killed in a crash after being hit by a wheel of a car that crashed in front of him at a Formula 2 race. Goddammit, only 18 years old.
Also, ex-F1 driver Ricardo Londono Bridge was shot to death on Saturday in Columbia.
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Originally Posted by Senna4ever Also, ex-F1 driver Ricardo Londono Bridge was shot to death on Saturday in Columbia. | wtf oO
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OMG FUCK! http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,1895...459257,00.html Quote:
BMW confirm withdrawal from F1
Wednesday 29th July 2009
Formula One has suffered another major blow with the news that BMW are pulling out of Formula One at the end of this season.
The announcement, made at the team's headquarters in Munich and on their website, means BMW are the second major manufacturer to pull out of the sport in the space of eight months following Honda's withdrawal in December.
The news comes ahead of the imminent signing this week of a new Concorde Agreement, the commercial document that governs F1 and binds the teams to the sport for the length of the contract.
BMW made their decision at a management board meeting on Tuesday.
"Of course, this was a difficult decision for us, but it's a resolute step in view of our company's strategic realignment,'' said Dr Norbert Reithofer, chairman of the Board of Management of BMW.
"Premium will be increasingly defined in terms of sustainability and environmental compatibility. This is an area in which we want to remain in the lead.
"We are continually reviewing all projects and initiatives to check them for future viability and sustainability.
"Our Formula One campaign is thus less a key promoter for us.''
BMW had made rapid strides in F1 since taking over Sauber ahead of the 2006 season, scoring two podium finishes and claiming fifth in the Constructors' Championship that year.
In 2007, the team finished second in the Constructors' race, aided by McLaren's exclusion in the wake of the 'spy saga', amassing 101 points.
Then last season Robert Kubica scored BMW Sauber's first victory at the Canadian Grand Prix en route to the team taking 135 points and finishing behind Ferrari and McLaren.
At the start of the season, BMW Motorsport boss Mario Theissen insisted it was the team's intention to push for both titles.
But the team have been a major disappointment after failing to get to grips with the introduction of new regulations, taking just eight points from 10 grands prix to date.
BMW's issues have been compounded by the fact that despite Ferrari and McLaren making similarly slow starts, those two teams are back up to speed, leaving the German marque at the back of the grid.
"Mario Theissen has been in charge of our motorsport's program since 1999,'' added Reithofer.
"We have scored a large number of successes in this period, including some in Formula One racing.
"I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Mario and his team for this.''
BMW's withdrawal is a major surprise as they have been a pivotal player in the recent negotiations between the FIA and the Formula One Teams' Association to reduce costs in the sport.
The signing of the new Concorde had been viewed as the end of the saga, with the 13 teams that were due to compete likely to do so through to at least 2012.
But BMW are to now focus the resources to be saved on F1 into the development of new drive technologies and sustainability.
Dr Klaus Draeger, member of the Board of Management responsible for development, confirmed BMW Sauber's recent poor results had played a major part in the thinking behind the team's exit from F1.
"It only took us three years to establish ourselves as a top team in Formula One,'' said Draeger.
"Unfortunately, we were unable to meet expectations. Nevertheless, our 10 years of Formula One experience have had a major impact on our development engineers.
"We have racing to thank for numerous technological innovations, as well as the competitive spirit that drives us to develop mass-produced cars.''
It is certain redundancies will follow, both in Munich and at their other plant in Hinwil, Switzerland.
Draeger added: "We will develop and assess various scenarios and do our best to find a solution for the employees in Hinwil and the staff members involved in the Formula One project in Munich.
"We are aware of the responsibility we shoulder and will inform the staff as soon as we can make a clear statement.''
Theissen was fully appreciative of the executive decision made to end the team's involvement in F1.
"We would all have liked to continue this ambitious campaign and show that this season was just a hiccup following three successful years,'' said Theissen.
"But I can understand why this decision was made from a corporate perspective.
"We will now focus sharply on the remaining races, demonstrate our fighting spirit and put in a good result as we bid farewell to Formula One racing.''
BMW will continue its participation in the World Touring Car Championship, Formula BMW, the American Le Mans Series and other endurance races, as well as World Superbikes.
As for drivers Kubica and Nick Heidfeld, they will now be on the lookout for another team for next season.
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The BMW Group has released the following statement after their announcement that they will quit F1 at the end of the season.
The BMW Group will not continue its Formula One campaign after the end of the 2009 season. Resources freed up as a result are to be dedicated to the development of new drive technologies and projects in the field of sustainability. BMW will continue to be actively involved in other motor sports series. The landmark decision to restructure BMW Motorsport?s activities was made at the Board of Management's meeting yesterday.
"Of course, this was a difficult decision for us. But it's a resolute step in view of our company's strategic realignment," explained Dr. Norbert Reithofer, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG. "Premium will increasingly be defined in terms of sustainability and environmental compatibility. This is an area in which we want to remain in the lead. In line with our Strategy Number ONE, we are continually reviewing all projects and initiatives to check them for future viability and sustainability. Our Formula One campaign is thus less a key promoter for us. Mario Theissen has been in charge of our motor sports program since 1999. We have scored a large number of successes in this period, including some in Formula One racing. I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Mario Theissen and his team for this," said, Reithofer.
Dr. Klaus Draeger, the member of the Board of Management responsible for development, said: "It only took us three years to establish ourselves as a top team with the BMW Sauber F1 Team. Unfortunately, we were unable to meet expectations in the current season. Nevertheless, our ten years of Formula One experience have had a major impact on our development engineers. We have racing to thank for numerous technological innovations as well as the competitive spirit that drives us to develop mass-produced cars." Possible redundancies in Munich and Hinwil cannot be quantified at present. Says Draeger: "Since we only made this decision yesterday, we cannot provide any more precise information. We will develop and assess various scenarios and do our best to find a solution for the employees in Hinwil and the staff members involved in the Formula One project in Munich. We are aware of the responsibility we shoulder and will inform the staff as soon as we can make a clear statement."
Says BMW Motorsport director Dr. Mario Theissen: "Of course, we, the employees in Hinwil and Munich, would all have liked to continue this ambitious campaign and show that this season was just a hiccup following three successful years. But I can understand why this decision was made from a corporate perspective. We will now focus sharply on the remaining races and demonstrate our fighting spirit and put in a good result as we bid farewell to Formula One racing."
BMW will continue its programs in a number of motor sports series: BMW will appear on the starting grid in the touring car series and young driver promotion program in Formula BMW. This will be supplemented by BMW's participation in ALMS, the American Le Mans Series, endurance races and close-to-production customer sports. Furthermore, BMW Motorrad Motorsport will continue its campaigns, with the super bike world championship leading the way.
BMW looks back on a long track record of success in the field of motor sports: BMW achieved eight Formula One victories from 1982 to 1985 with Brabham. In 1983, BMW won the drivers' championship with Nelson Piquet (Brabham BMW). The last win with the legendary turbo engine followed with Benetton in 1986. Ten victories were scored during the partnership with Williams (2000-2005). BMW had a total of 19 grand prix wins and 33 pole positions before the BMW Sauber F1 Team era.
In its debut season in 2006, the newly established BMW Sauber F1 Team wound up fifth in the constructors' championship. In 2007, the German-Swiss team came in second after McLaren-Mercedes' exclusion from the points standings. The 2008 season saw the team in the hunt for the world championship until the end of the season, winding up third. Polish-born Robert Kubica achieved the first and hitherto only GP victory in Canada on June 8, 2008. So far, the BMW Sauber F1 Team has taken one pole position (Kubica in Bahrain in 2008) and 16 podium finishes. The BMW Sauber F1 Team occupies the eighth spot in the manufacturers' standings in the season presently underway.
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HOLY SHIT WTF?!!!!!! wth is wrong with bmw
omg is F1 even going to be here next year :/
better go watch them this year before its done
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Good riddance BMW. They were the only team pushing for KERS last year when they had a motion to abandon KERS; now they have failed epically and haven't been using KERS since a while ago. They've dug their own grave.
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Schumacher will not be the replacement driver because 1) he doesn't have a super license anymore; 2) he does not have anything to gain from driving; and 3) he will not do that to Massa. Marc Gene will most probably be the replacement driver as they probably won't want to repeat the same mistake in 1999.
| Ferrari just announced Schumacher is BACK to replace Massa.
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor Ferrari just announced Schumacher is BACK to replace Massa.
| Fuck Yeah!
I can't wait!
Now we'll find out how well he does with a mediocre car. If he really is THAT good of a driver...
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^ it will be interesting to see if Schumacher can even beat Kimi......Schumacher is an amazing driver, but being out of F1 racing for 1.5 seasons is going to be interesting to see if can compete right off the bat......
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Originally Posted by Z3guy ^ it will be interesting to see if Schumacher can even beat Kimi......Schumacher is an amazing driver, but being out of F1 racing for 1.5 seasons is going to be interesting to see if can compete right off the bat...... | 2.5 seasons actually, 2007, 2008 and mid way through 2009
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Schumacher is a "bad" driver. The first episode of Top gear this season proves his ability to "drive" 
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor Ferrari just announced Schumacher is BACK to replace Massa.
How does your foot taste? | ....pending a physical exam. It's not 100% certain he'll get his Superlicense re-instated. Remember he injured his neck and back earlier this year testing racing motorcycles, so he may not be able to withstand the forces encountered in an F1 car.
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being away from F1 even for a few months is a big gap for a driver to close.... a few years is huuuuuuuge....
I'm just happy my boy Hamilton finally won a race this season.
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Originally Posted by Senna4ever ....pending a physical exam. It's not 100% certain he'll get his Superlicense re-instated. Remember he injured his neck and back earlier this year testing racing motorcycles, so he may not be able to withstand the forces encountered in an F1 car. | If he wants to race, he'll race. It's that simple. No one in F1 says no to MS. He wouldn't even have accepted the offer from SF if he thought for a moment that he wouldn't be physically able to do it. He has the experience to know that.
As for being competitive? I bet he will be every bit as fast as Kimi.
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At least I now have a reason to wake up at 5am for the European GP that I was planning on sleeping though.
I was disappointed to hear about BMW leaving... this year was for all purposes a learning year. The last few seasons you could always count on them being reliably third lol.
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SCHUMACHER! This season just got a whole lot better  Kimi vs Schumacher!!
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This is indeed shocking, just exactly what the European GP needed...
This season proved itself to be so unpredictable...
Very interesting to see Schumi, Vettel, Hamilton, Kimi, Webber, Button, Barichello battling eachother... LH/MS battle might be interesting... and at the same time, Ferrari will be housing two champions in the same garage...that will be interesting too
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my guess is everyone will cater to schumi leaving kimi to say wtf and throwing caution to the wind like he used to when he was driving for mclaren..... or at least thats what I'm wanting to happen!
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor Ferrari just announced Schumacher is BACK to replace Massa.
How does your foot taste? | Hey, I'd gladly eat my foot when the master is back to drive the car!
It's really great news... but it will be tough... at the same time, he trashed everyone (current F1 drivers) a few weeks ago in a go-cart race.
Even though there's no testing, teams are allowed to do straightline tests.
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I think all the drivers are amazing - whenever Vettel/Webber/Button/Hamilton/whoever gets pole, they almost always manage to stay in 1st for the whole race.
It's interesting (to me) to see how a dominant team can fall back when their setup, tire, and pit strategy doesn't work out.. it's almost like chess combined with math and driving.
I think Schumy's real skill will show through not just in his driving but his ability to bring what's left of Scuderia Ferrari back up to the developmental level that existed under Ross Brawn and his crew.
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