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Old 03-30-2009, 10:40 AM   #26
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Advice i got from the bike forum is that you should drive for a good 5 years, and from that you learn a lot about how people drive. that alone could save your ass

i wanted to get a bike, but it's quite dangerous is you think about it.
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:53 AM   #27
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Stick 2 tricking it's safer than u killing urself on a motorbike @ 16.
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:25 PM   #28
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Advice i got from the bike forum is that you should drive for a good 5 years, and from that you learn a lot about how people drive. that alone could save your ass
not really...you don't lean with your car, you don't counter steering your car,
you don't have two sets of brake pedals, you don't park your bike downhill etc
etc. Oh, you don't scream "OMFG IT'S FUCKING FAST" in your helmet when
driving a car

I would suggest him to hit up the gym for a good 5 years before he rides a
bike, you know it is pretty exhausted to handle a bike.

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Old 03-30-2009, 07:57 PM   #29
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not really...you don't lean with your car, you don't counter steering your car,
you don't have two sets of brake pedals, you don't park your car downhill etc
etc. Oh, you don't scream "OMFG IT'S FUCKING FAST" in your helmet when
driving a car

I would suggest him to hit up the gym for a good 5 years before he rides a
bike, you know it is pretty exhausted to handle a bike.
word. definitely not the same as a car, yeah you can learn to read how people drive but you'll never get the same experience as being on a bike. i almost crashed quite a few times... only to learn from my near death experiences lol.

and yeah its tiring handling a bike especially if you ride it for awhile... hard on the arms. not to mention if you somehow drop your bike and its 2am and theres no one around and you gotta somehow lift up your 400lb bike.
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Old 03-30-2009, 08:08 PM   #30
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That is pretty much why I stopped riding. I got too comfortable riding at speed, and I came really close to losing it on the way back on the upper level highway. I realized I could have killed myself on the highway that day. After that, i sold the bike, and only now am I starting to itch to ride again. That was 3 years ago.

Riding is totally different from driving, but some of the things you learn from driving can be carried over to riding a bike. Things like watching other cars, anticipating what they are going to do. As for the mechanics of riding a bike, there is little like it. Imagine going 100 km/h and your helmet starts coming off your head from the wind. That is just insane.
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Old 03-30-2009, 08:14 PM   #31
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not really...you don't lean with your car, you don't counter steering your car,
you don't have two sets of brake pedals, you don't park your car downhill etc
etc. Oh, you don't scream "OMFG IT'S FUCKING FAST" in your helmet when
driving a car

I would suggest him to hit up the gym for a good 5 years before he rides a
bike, you know it is pretty exhausted to handle a bike.
i think u guys are talking abt different things. wat asian said it learning maneuvers on a motobike which obvious can't be learn driving a car.


what caketech is talking abt can only be gain from observation and interaction with other drivers on the road, sure you can learn that as your riding a bike but its alot safer to already have that knowledge before you even try to learn ride a bike.

cars are much for forgiving when you make a noob mistake and misinterpret other driver's action.

my dad's boss's son has a ducati and he sold it last year after he watch one of his buddy fly like 50 feet in the air and landed with body parts in all direction becuase an oncoming car clip the bike. if his buddy was in a car that would of been a minor accident, maybe a mirror will be missing and a little scrap...

oh and he and his buddy have been riding bikes since they were 18 and they have close to 10 yr of riding experience under their belt when the accident happen. since than all of them has sold their bike (and replace with even nicer 4 wheel rides but that's another matter)

I admire ppl with the courage to go all out on a ducati but i'm not ready to die just yet, even more so at OP's age.
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learn how to drive before you know how to ride. You don't want your mom be in your funeral or hospital when you are age 17

Not trying to be an ass, I used to ride a r6 when I was in my early 20s. Know several people who lost their life like this.
Asian XL is right. Be sure that you are responsible (as a driver) and understand the rules of the road before you put yourself in a position even more dangerous than a car. I know bikes are lots of fun but there is alot of risk involved that you should have a better idea of what yu are getting yourself into.
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if you don't ride it every single day like going to work, going to school, going
to pick up friends, you should be fine.

Treat it as an expensive toy, you take it out when not many stupid drivers
on the road, just have fun with cautions. It is an unforgettable experience.

downshift for no reason, rev the engine, pop a small wheelie on a quiet
street, practice leaning, finger the old farts, and wave to other bikers...
damn, I miss the fun.

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I admire ppl with the courage to go all out on a ducati but i'm not ready to die just yet, even more so at OP's age.
hahaha, I remember seeing a dude brought his white hayabusa to 5th gear
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Having driven for 8 years before getting my class 6, it really helped because years of close calls have taught me how to avoid putting myself in a bad position. As a new driver, you don't really have the experience to know what to look out for on the road.

Riding is definitely very fun, but it's not worth being a part of the statistics.
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Old 03-30-2009, 09:31 PM   #35
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Everything that has been said is very true but let's look at the rider themself. Far too many people die every year because they pushed themselve's or their bikes too far. Riding too fast, on unfamilar roads.

I hate to bring this up, but look at what happened to Luc Bourdon. He just bought his new bike and took some riding classes a few weeks prior.

Or going riding with a group of guys. One guy decides to go a little faster, then everyone else starts to follow. Miss your apex and you end up in the ditch or even worse, head on into a car.

Stay safe all riders.
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