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04-13-2009, 01:11 AM
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#51 | | S-S-S-SOUL CRUSHER
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OK!!!! now that i think of it
ok so
people drive Z cars every where
so i thought to myself remebering back ...i drove to oregon and they only have i think like 91 for the highest ...people drive z cars there so thats what they must use!!!! ok
makes sense!
kinda .. lol
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04-13-2009, 01:17 AM
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#52 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Out of the factory, almost no car needs anything more than 91 Octane, since that's all that's available across most of the US.
It may be different for $100k+ supercars, but normal whips like your 300Z will be more than fine with 91.
Furthermore, I think it's silly that you blame lower octane gas for your breakdown. Low octane just means shit performance, I highly doubt you damaged your engine.
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04-13-2009, 01:26 AM
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#53 | | S-S-S-SOUL CRUSHER
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Originally Posted by Amaru  Out of the factory, almost no car needs anything more than 91 Octane, since that's all that's available across most of the US.
It may be different for $100k+ supercars, but normal whips like your 300Z will be more than fine with 91.
Furthermore, I think it's silly that you blame lower octane gas for your breakdown. Low octane just means shit performance, I highly doubt you damaged your engine. | hahaa i dunno if thats what really made it happen
but thats what the machanic said when i got it back
who knows
oh well ..it runs now ...sometimes.....not really...but sometimes haha
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04-13-2009, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Amaru Furthermore, I think it's silly that you blame lower octane gas for your breakdown. Low octane just means shit performance, I highly doubt you damaged your engine. |
so are you saying if you drove a turbo car designed to run on 91 with 87 for a few months and went WOT like i dunno 5 times a week that there would be no adverse effects?
i do know of knock sensors.. but I'm still doubting It would be adviseable? to run a lower octane on a car that needs premium
wouldn't this cause detonation/knocking/pinging ? after time possibly..
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04-13-2009, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Amaru It may be different for $100k+ supercars, but normal whips like your 300Z will be more than fine with 91. | Ferrari recomends Shell gas and the highest they sell is 91.
No stock car from the factory sold in North America needs anything higher than 91 oct.
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04-13-2009, 01:56 AM
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#56 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Originally Posted by Johnrb so are you saying if you drove a turbo car designed to run on 91 with 87 for a few months and went WOT like i dunno 5 times a week that there would be no adverse effects?
i do know of knock sensors.. but I'm still doubting It would be adviseable? to run a lower octane on a car that needs premium
wouldn't this cause detonation/knocking/pinging ? after time possibly.. | Yeah, that's certainly possible, but the car in question is an NA 300Z.
I think in modern cars with knock sensors, turbo or not, the timing would be adjusted for low-grade fuel. The result would be poor performance but not any damage. I tend to think dirty injectors or a clogged fuel filter would be more of a problem if you're consistently using shit gas.
Anyway, I'm no expert, so perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable can chime in. But, I do know that his 300Z will run perfectly fine on 91... seeing as how every other car in the US manages on 91 octane, including Ferraris, according to the last poster.
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04-13-2009, 02:01 AM
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^ "her"
and yes, a clogged fuel filter will cause situations that could be mistaken for knocking due to wrong type of fuel. as you could run lean and knock due to insuficient fuel supply.
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04-13-2009, 02:08 AM
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#58 | | S-S-S-SOUL CRUSHER
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Originally Posted by Amaru Yeah, that's certainly possible, but the car in question is an NA 300Z.
I think in modern cars with knock sensors, turbo or not, the timing would be adjusted for low-grade fuel. The result would be poor performance but not any damage. I tend to think dirty injectors or a clogged fuel filter would be more of a problem if you're consistently using shit gas.
Anyway, I'm no expert, so perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable can chime in. But, I do know that his 300Z will run perfectly fine on 91... seeing as how every other car in the US manages on 91 octane, including Ferraris, according to the last poster. | HAHAHA
lol THANKS!
im a girl btw hahaah
and what happend when my car broke down was if i can remeber
the guy that fixed it said that my engine extreamly suverly flood itself and it cause my car to have grounding issues ? and i needed new spark plugs and what not i cant remeber there was more stuff but it happend along time ago
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04-13-2009, 02:27 AM
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#59 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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My apologies, I should have guessed from the "Holly" username... :P
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04-13-2009, 02:32 AM
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#60 | | Chinese Guy, Swedish Rides
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Wrong. Holly is the name of his Z32.
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04-13-2009, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Amaru My apologies, I should have guessed from the "Holly" username... :P | Hahaha its all good
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04-13-2009, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by HollyZ32 HAHAHA
lol THANKS!
im a girl btw hahaah
and what happend when my car broke down was if i can remeber
the guy that fixed it said that my engine extreamly suverly flood itself and it cause my car to have grounding issues ? and i needed new spark plugs and what not i cant remeber there was more stuff but it happend along time ago | that sounds suspicious....like they fed you a bunch of crap so they could charge you 10X the cost of a regular tune up...
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04-13-2009, 03:01 AM
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#63 | | S-S-S-SOUL CRUSHER
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I dont think they could have bull shitted me to much seeing as how my car didnt start for 4 days lol
they prob did get me pretty good on the price though but they coudlnt have done it to much
because it was like 3 hours of labor and plus like 100 bucks for spark plugs and what eve els was done to it at the time
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04-13-2009, 03:04 AM
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out of curiousity.. what exactly did they bill you for?
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04-13-2009, 03:15 AM
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#65 | | S-S-S-SOUL CRUSHER
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wow what are the odds i found the bill lol
i was changed 400 including tax
but this is what it says
OHHH RIGHT ..for got
that includes my tow bill lol but still this is what happend i guess
Diagnose "No start" impossible
timing belt jump
confirmed belt was ok
spark plugs soaked with gas
wire harness protion not connected
change plugs and need to dry cylinders and make car drive able
and i was billed for
spark plugs 44.94
towing 51.75
misc shop supplies 3.50
3 hours of labor 260
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04-13-2009, 06:06 AM
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changing spark plugs on a Z32 is a bitch of a job I hear (as is any maintenance work on that car). I don't doubt the labour charges were unjustified.
but Holly, you should really know what kind of fuel your car requires! knowledge is power, start reading up. oh yeah, Chevron's Supreme fuel is 92 octane as opposed to the normal 91 octane at other gas stations. you can buy that grade of fuel for that extra "peace of mind".
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04-13-2009, 11:14 AM
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Looks like an ignition problem, not fuel related. Your plugs weren't firing or you had a weak spark.
And yeah, the amount you were charged seems reasonable.
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04-13-2009, 03:39 PM
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#68 | | S-S-S-SOUL CRUSHER
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Originally Posted by death_blossom changing spark plugs on a Z32 is a bitch of a job I hear (as is any maintenance work on that car). I don't doubt the labour charges were unjustified.
but Holly, you should really know what kind of fuel your car requires! knowledge is power, start reading up. oh yeah, Chevron's Supreme fuel is 92 octane as opposed to the normal 91 octane at other gas stations. you can buy that grade of fuel for that extra "peace of mind". | Haha i do know what kind
it says it need perimuim unleaded fuel ONLY
i use 94
but im sure i CAN use 91/92 either way
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04-13-2009, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by shenmecar didnt we have a thread about "its okay to put regular in a car that requires premium"?
i think it should be fine unless its a turbocharged car. | I think it just depends on the manufacturing. My car manual said that when I first bought it, It recommended 91 but said 87 was ok, so I ended up just using 90 from Mohawk/Husky since it's priced at reg and I had no issues at all. Now that I have the stage 1 kit ... I have to use "premium" but of course it isn't specific of what kind so I just throw in 94.
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04-13-2009, 08:32 PM
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Talked to a Petrocan rep today. They are getting rid of 94 oct at all there stations.
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04-13-2009, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Talked to a Petrocan rep today. They are getting rid of 94 oct at all there stations. | omg so what happens to all the people with their JDM cars?  | |
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04-13-2009, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Ferrari recomends Shell gas and the highest they sell is 91.
No stock car from the factory sold in North America needs anything higher than 91 oct. | there is one car i personally know is that the GTR requires 93. so they take 94. and im no GTR fanboy. i went to fill one up with the GTR tech at work.
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04-14-2009, 08:56 AM
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#73 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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petro by my house had it last week when i filled up but my car runs fine off 91 so i get airmiles at shell 
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04-14-2009, 10:50 AM
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#74 | | S-S-S-SOUL CRUSHER
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i like to get the save on points at chevron ahhaa
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04-14-2009, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lomac Kinda... Here's the Coles Notes of it:
If your car states that it "Requires Regular unleaded", you're fine putting in 87. If it "Requires Premium," your minimum octane is 91. If it "Recommends Premium," you can put in Regular as the car will adjust the timing to prevent detonation, though at a possible loss of horsepower and/or fuel consumption.
Conversely, putting 94 octane into an engine that only requires 91 or less can also have an adverse effect. Higher octane means a higher detonation point. An engine that is designed to run on a lower octane needs to run hotter in order to try to burn the higher octane. As a result, you end up with hotter engine temperatures, more unburnt fuel going through your exhaust (which will lead to a premature death on your cats), and worse fuel mileage.
The only reasons why you would put higher octane into your engine than what the manufacturer recommends is if you've modified it in such a way that you have higher compression, and/or are running some type of forced induction. | First part is bang on, 2nd part, not so much. You can run whatever fuel you want as long as it is above the minimum the engine requires. Running 94 octane on a vehicle that requires 86/87 isnt going to not burn the fuel, it will still burn it, as it will only inject what it needs into the cylinder. It will just take a longer time to burn, so the burn will not be as complete. If you have OBDII, the car may adjust for this, adjusting injector pulse width, plug firing times, timing, etc. It may just run like a bag of ass. Unless you vehicles REQUIRES a certain minimum (i.e. 91/94), or its boosted or very high compression, run 87.
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