Police Forum Police Head Mod: Skidmark
Questions & info about the Motor Vehicle Act. Mature discussion only. |
 | | 
04-23-2009, 10:39 AM
|
#1 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrey
Posts: 1,016
Thanked 173 Times in 27 Posts
Failed 73 Times in 9 Posts
| Weapon's Visibility
So lets say an officer pulls me over for speeding, once he approaches my vehicle, he see's a weapon such as a can of bear mace or samurai sword. And those two weapons were purchased legally at a local store and I'm legal enough to have possession of these weapons. Can anything happen to me? Would I get charged? You cab get a can of mace at sport check and a samurai sword could of been purcahsed for display. Thanks!
__________________
What's cracking? Other than the crack of your ass
| 
|  | |
04-23-2009, 11:27 AM
|
#2 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 14,997
Thanked 6,370 Times in 1,795 Posts
Failed 114 Times in 70 Posts
|
Why would you carry a samurai sword or bear mace with you on your daily ride?
Do you see ninja bears all the time? 
If not, then I could see the cop getting a little shady about those items.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 12:03 PM
|
#3 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrey
Posts: 1,016
Thanked 173 Times in 27 Posts
Failed 73 Times in 9 Posts
|
I don't carry those item at all. I'm just saying what if coincidently I have that on me at the time i got pulled over
__________________
What's cracking? Other than the crack of your ass
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 12:42 PM
|
#4 | | RS Peace Officer
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,867
Thanked 1,636 Times in 683 Posts
Failed 64 Times in 27 Posts
|
If I stopped you and saw two weapons in plain sight, we would be having a chat, with you in handcuffs for offier safety, until things were investigated further. If you are legally entitled to have these, driving with them readily available like that would be major cause of concern. Why not transport them locked in the trunk? As to what happened after that, the actual circumstances could vary from you being told to lock them in your trunk & leave...to you being arrested for posession of weapons.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 12:46 PM
|
#5 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PR
Posts: 1,140
Thanked 253 Times in 131 Posts
Failed 6 Times in 1 Post
| Quote:
Originally Posted by zulutango  If I stopped you and saw two weapons in plain sight, we would be having a chat, with you in handcuffs for offier safety, until things were investigated further. If you are legally entitled to have these, driving with them readily available like that would be major cause of concern. Why not transport them locked in the trunk? As to what happened after that, the actual circumstances could vary from you being told to lock them in your trunk & leave...to you being arrested for posession of weapons. | Exactly that.
__________________
"Never give a match up halfway through. Never say that you do not feel up to it, that your condition is bad, and throw in the towel. Fight to the very end, always looking for your chance to break through." - Kazuzo Kudo
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 12:51 PM
|
#6 | | Banned By Establishment
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shaugnessy
Posts: 2,610
Thanked 481 Times in 168 Posts
Failed 730 Times in 91 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by PHO? I don't carry those item at all. I'm just saying what if coincidently I have that on me at the time i got pulled over | things like that should be in the trunk or similarly covered from plain view. same with liquor i think
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 01:06 PM
|
#7 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 232
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Failed 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
How would it be any different from having a legal gun in your car? If it's in your trunk, properly secured, and you are transporting it directly to or from the shooting range..
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by aznboi128 well said and nice penis | | |
| | |
04-23-2009, 01:35 PM
|
#8 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 14,997
Thanked 6,370 Times in 1,795 Posts
Failed 114 Times in 70 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by ZiG-87 How would it be any different from having a legal gun in your car? If it's in your trunk, properly secured, and you are transporting it directly to or from the shooting range.. | Same thing. Locked and secured so you can't easily get at it.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 02:01 PM
|
#9 | | RS.net, where our google ads make absolutely no sense!
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: GTA
Posts: 960
Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts
Failed 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
Just from a common sense point of view, if you have any objects such as, weapons, alcohol, narcotics or object that can be classified as such, in the passenger cabin of your vehicle and which are clearly visible to an officer because they are in PLAIN sight, of course they would arouse suspicion and the officer would inquire about them. I can't think of any officer who would not inquire about them.
If everything checks out and the officer is satisfied everything is ok, there is no threat to anyone, or the weapons are not illegal then the person would not get charged. If things don't check out, well things can only go downhill for the person from there.
A few years back when I clerked at the Court house I came across a case where the police had pulled over a guy for speeding. When the officer approached the vehicle he noticed there were 6 cell phones on the front seat, a mini weight scale, a open duffel bag with cash inside, and a gun holster was visible when the guy opened the glove box to retrieve his insurance.
Can anyone say the officer should not inquire further into a stop as such?
In this case it turned out the guy was a known drug dealer who had been arrested before (multiple times). The bag contained $75,000.00 in cash all $20.00 bills. A search warrant was obtained for the guy's house and the search revealed $200,000.00 cash, a counterfit currency making machine, and what was described in the officer's notes as "a mini cocaine making factory".
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 02:30 PM
|
#10 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 233
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Failed 0 Times in 0 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by CRS Why would you carry a samurai sword or bear mace with you on your daily ride?
Do you see ninja bears all the time?
If not, then I could see the cop getting a little shady about those items. | ninja bears.. haha. sorry, but that just made my day. 
__________________
Any day is a GOOD day for beer!
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 02:37 PM
|
#11 | | RS Peace Officer
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,867
Thanked 1,636 Times in 683 Posts
Failed 64 Times in 27 Posts
|
Added to my earlier posting...if those weapons were there.. "we, Mr Smith and Mr Wesson and I are not going to let you do that"....(love Dirty Harry...and yes I have a Model 29 44Mag. ). Expect to be staring at a 3rd "eye" if you make the Cop nervous.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 03:13 PM
|
#12 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrey
Posts: 1,016
Thanked 173 Times in 27 Posts
Failed 73 Times in 9 Posts
|
would be any different if the officer found those items in the bank trunk laying there? Any assumptions that the driver was hiding it from the officer. thanks for the input all
__________________
What's cracking? Other than the crack of your ass
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 03:54 PM
|
#13 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,608
Thanked 170 Times in 87 Posts
Failed 3 Times in 2 Posts
|
Weapons are supposed to be locked and stored in the trunk while being transported. If the officer asked you to open the trunk, then tell him what's in it before you open it so he knows what to expect. Of course, don't say it by saying "I have a weapon in my trunk!". Say something like, I am transporting some legally attained weapons which are currently in the trunk" or something along those lines so it won't sound like you're threatening the officer.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 03:59 PM
|
#14 | | RS Peace Officer
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,867
Thanked 1,636 Times in 683 Posts
Failed 64 Times in 27 Posts
|
If you are legally transporting a weapon then tell the Cop up front if he is about to search. Tell him exactly what you have and why and describe where it is so he can locate it. The less nervous they, the more up front you are, the less potential for problems.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 04:36 PM
|
#15 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: here
Posts: 5,793
Thanked 146 Times in 67 Posts
Failed 208 Times in 42 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by wing_woo Weapons are supposed to be locked and stored in the trunk while being transported. If the officer asked you to open the trunk, | firstly it's perfectly legal to carry anything legal in the front seat (except alcohol). and to the second question, my answer would be, no I won't open the trunk.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 06:04 PM
|
#16 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 14,997
Thanked 6,370 Times in 1,795 Posts
Failed 114 Times in 70 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by johny firstly it's perfectly legal to carry anything legal in the front seat (except alcohol). and to the second question, my answer would be, no I won't open the trunk. | Enjoy your ticket.
If you have nothing to hide, I don't see the problem here.
And no, I'm not going to stand for your BS "I'll take the freedom and the hit with ticket instead of having that right violated".
Go ahead, pay your fine. Do you really think the cop cares?
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 06:39 PM
|
#17 | | Banned (ABWS)
Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Abbotsford
Posts: 128
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Failed 0 Times in 0 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by CRS Enjoy your ticket.
If you have nothing to hide, I don't see the problem here.
And no, I'm not going to stand for your BS "I'll take the freedom and the hit with ticket instead of having that right violated".
Go ahead, pay your fine. Do you really think the cop cares? | Thats completely ignorant of you sir. Why would I not defend my rights and freedoms that my grandfather fought to provide me with. I defend and follow my rights to a tee. You should do. They have to learn to follow the rules that they uphold. The officer should care. Its his job. He shouldn't be abusing his position in power. I would hope that he is dilligent and acts with care when issuing a ticket. I hope this attitude starts to get phased out. For example just the many flaws coming out in the RCMP. I am sure the problems they are facing happens at any and every law enforcement unit in the country.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 06:47 PM
|
#18 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 5,560
Thanked 22 Times in 13 Posts
Failed 14 Times in 7 Posts
|
Unless I'm mistaken...i thought swords were illegal. Isnt it a fixed blade weapon greater than (i think the limit is) 4"?
Unless you're talking about those fake ones that can't cut even butter.
But I must say...CRS' response was gold.
"do you encounter ninja bears on a daily basis" hHAHAHAHAHAHa
__________________
~goodnight fat sig.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 07:17 PM
|
#19 | | The "You'd Know" Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Home
Posts: 20,931
Thanked 276 Times in 140 Posts
Failed 11 Times in 9 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by stutterr Why would I not defend my rights and freedoms that my grandfather fought to provide me with. | Sweet, your grandfather is Pierre Trudeau?
__________________
08 CBR600RR
03 IS300
Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. | |
| | |
04-23-2009, 08:15 PM
|
#20 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 14,997
Thanked 6,370 Times in 1,795 Posts
Failed 114 Times in 70 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by stutterr Thats completely ignorant of you sir. Why would I not defend my rights and freedoms that my grandfather fought to provide me with. I defend and follow my rights to a tee. You should do. They have to learn to follow the rules that they uphold. The officer should care. Its his job. He shouldn't be abusing his position in power. I would hope that he is dilligent and acts with care when issuing a ticket. I hope this attitude starts to get phased out. For example just the many flaws coming out in the RCMP. I am sure the problems they are facing happens at any and every law enforcement unit in the country. | BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'd thought to have a laugh before I point out the hypocrisy in your post.
If you weren't being the asshole who thinks they are clever with the law and giving the officer a hard time, do you really think he would do the same to you? Think about it. If you give the officer a hard time, what makes you think he won't do the same to you? Because it is your right? Well, it is HIS right to give you the ticket.
Abusing power? How about just being stupid and pushing the officers hand. Do you know how many shady people officers have to deal with on a daily basis? Do you really want to add to that and cause the officer to have even more suspicion?
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 08:46 PM
|
#21 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: here
Posts: 5,793
Thanked 146 Times in 67 Posts
Failed 208 Times in 42 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by impactX Sweet, your grandfather is Pierre Trudeau? | are you someone implying he gave us rights? our grandparents should have kicked his butt too. he took many away.
| |
| | |
04-23-2009, 09:14 PM
|
#22 | | The "You'd Know" Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Home
Posts: 20,931
Thanked 276 Times in 140 Posts
Failed 11 Times in 9 Posts
|
__________________
08 CBR600RR
03 IS300
Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. | |
| | |
04-23-2009, 11:41 PM
|
#23 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 14,997
Thanked 6,370 Times in 1,795 Posts
Failed 114 Times in 70 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by johny are you someone implying he gave us rights? our grandparents should have kicked his butt too. he took many away. | Yeah, terrible guy... That Trudeau... Just terrible.  | |
| | |
04-24-2009, 01:22 AM
|
#24 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 5,560
Thanked 22 Times in 13 Posts
Failed 14 Times in 7 Posts
|
trudeau gave me ''natural cures they dont want you to know about''....a book worth less than the paper its written on!!
__________________
~goodnight fat sig.
| |
| | |
04-24-2009, 09:13 AM
|
#25 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Okanagan
Posts: 16,911
Thanked 9,619 Times in 4,197 Posts
Failed 429 Times in 227 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by nipples Unless I'm mistaken...i thought swords were illegal. Isnt it a fixed blade weapon greater than (i think the limit is) 4"?
Unless you're talking about those fake ones that can't cut even butter.
But I must say...CRS' response was gold.
"do you encounter ninja bears on a daily basis" hHAHAHAHAHAHa | I think carrying a blade greater than 4" is illegal, as well as having it fully concealed. possession of a sword seems to be legal, although for transportation I think your best bet is to keep it locked in its scabbard somehow, or locked in a container, and stored in the trunk.
edit: according to some googling, any length of fixed blade knife/sword is legal, however it has to be used as a tool. anything carried for self defense/as a weapon is illegal. so if you're hunting you can have a nice big knife, but if you're running around Vancouver with an 8" hunting knife would be illegal as theres no way to use that as a tool in such a situation, thusly it becomes a weapon. anything with a folding blade must be under 4" or 6", not sure which. Anything fully concealed on your person is also illegal.
So a sword would be legal to have on display in your home, or at martial arts practice or something, but unless you're travelling to/from some place it could be used as a tool, the possession of it is illegal.
__________________ 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC // 2007 Toyota Rav4 V6 // 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S ["sold"] \\ 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD [sold] \\ 2000 Jeep Cherokee [sold] \\ 1997 Honda Prelude [sold] \\ 1992 Jeep YJ [sold/crashed] \\ 1987 Mazda RX-7 [sold] \\ 1987 Toyota Celica GT-S [crushed] Quote:
Originally Posted by maksimizer half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF. | Quote:
Originally Posted by RevYouUp reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z | Quote:
Originally Posted by Good_KarMa OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry: | | 
| | | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
| | |
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:05 PM.
|
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!
