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Old 05-08-2009, 07:06 PM   #26
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Maybe you havent looked at the specs lately, but the Genesis coupe has more torque than 90% of japanese/korean imports sold in NA, especially for the 4 cylinder.

But yes, of course the american cars have more torque. I thought this was common knowledge?..
i can only think of a few imports that have nice torque figures

lexus IS-F
Toyota Tundra ( yes is a truck, but still a torque monster )
Nissan Titan
Lexus GS430

What else am i missing?

A genesis with 266 ft lbs is pretty ho hum considering a toyota sienna / honda odessey minivan makes 245 ft lbs

My subjective definition of a nice torque figure is 300 ft lbs+
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Mazdaspeed3 280ft-lbs @ 3000rpm.
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it's a GM.

they are known for poor quality.

don't we all know that?
sad even, timpo's got it right.

When your CEO had to apologize for the last 20 years build quality of American cars, you know thats just bad quality.
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the theory behind it works, but just LOL
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People that buy American deserve American quality
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update on the brake issue! (O_O)!

http://www.autosnewspaper.com/2009/0...w-does-it-too/

but can they at least sand the fuckers down or put a ss sticker on the side of those weights like they do with all the other shit so it looks a bit better?? cause some of us actually have standards?? like holy shit we're not talking about a pontiac pursuit with that roflcopter quad exhaust in which only one set is actually hooked up, this is supposed to be a nice muscle car

its like their first time making a car (-__-)...

"i dunno, lets just slap some fucking weights on it and call it a day, hur hur hur"

this is a danger for bumblebee in the next movie... those weights may get him stuck when he's transforming, if he doesnt short out first
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Lol, the BMW performance brakes look like a work of art compared to the Brembos on the SS. Hopefully the Brembos on the SS aren't similar to the ones on the Chrysler SRT's because GM is going to have some expensive recalls on their hands.
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So the article is saying a bunch of weights double sided taped to a caliper is equivalent to a set of weight that are properly held down by some bolts with a hex head?

The writer is serious business.
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Mazdaspeed3 280ft-lbs @ 3000rpm.
Before the turbo spools up it's pretty torqueless.

When I get into the Mustang, I always love the feel of true kick you in the ass torque that comes on the INSTANT that you hit the pedal.

Not to mention the farty blat sound of the Mazda can never match the auditory sex of a V8 with flowies.
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Mazdaspeed3 280ft-lbs @ 3000rpm.
A V8 can make that by 1800 without being at WOT.
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A V8 can make that by 1800 without being at WOT.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I was merely replying to the post above mine.
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Before the turbo spools up it's pretty torqueless.

When I get into the Mustang, I always love the feel of true kick you in the ass torque that comes on the INSTANT that you hit the pedal.

Not to mention the farty blat sound of the Mazda can never match the auditory sex of a V8 with flowies.
you couldn't have said it better.
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It's a moot point.

There's a V6 Genesis that should have been bought in every case of a new camaro owners downfall.

seriosuly though. who would buy the new camaro other than proud americans afriad of buying a hyundai. It's proved to be a better car in 100% of the tests and comparisons, even resale value, and it's hyundai.

there's no reason to buy a new camaro, meaning there's no reason to feel bad for owners who fucked up and didn't go with Korea
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it's a GM.

they are known for poor quality.

don't we all know that?
Get the fuck out, jackass. I suppose Nissan really wins in the quality control dept, right?
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i can only think of a few imports that have nice torque figures

lexus IS-F
Toyota Tundra ( yes is a truck, but still a torque monster )
Nissan Titan
Lexus GS430

What else am i missing?

A genesis with 266 ft lbs is pretty ho hum considering a toyota sienna / honda odessey minivan makes 245 ft lbs

My subjective definition of a nice torque figure is 300 ft lbs+

I think you should compare apple to apple, if you look at domestic cars and import cars within the same class, i think the majority import cars have a slightly higher torque than domestics.

Take Accord vs Malibu
Corolla vs Cobalt
G37 vs CTS
Sienna vs Sonata

i think its an slaughter.

Not only domestics are poorly built, most are even underpowered.
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Accord = 254 @ 5000
Malibu = 251 @ 3000

Corolla (Non-XRS) = 128 @ 4400
Cobalt (Non-SS) = 150 @ 4900

G37 = 269 @ 5200
CTS (Non-CTS-V)= 273 @ 5200


....Yes, domestics are absolutely slaughtered...
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I think you should compare apple to apple, if you look at domestic cars and import cars within the same class, i think the majority import cars have a slightly higher torque than domestics.

Take Accord vs Malibu
Corolla vs Cobalt
G37 vs CTS
Sienna vs Sonata

i think its an slaughter.

Not only domestics are poorly built, most are even underpowered.
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Accord = 254 @ 5000
Malibu = 251 @ 3000

Corolla (Non-XRS) = 128 @ 4400
Cobalt (Non-SS) = 150 @ 4900

G37 = 269 @ 5200
CTS (Non-CTS-V)= 273 @ 5200


....Yes, domestics are absolutely slaughtered...
so...........with those specs,

you would prefer a Cobalt over a Corolla, and a Malibu over an Accord, and a CTS over G37?

the answer for most is no.

With superior torque figures, most people still prefer imports over domestics.

Yes, domestics are slaughered.
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Your point was based on torque figures and nothing more. I'd personally prefer the Malibu and CTS over the import options. But again that had nothing to do with your original point.
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Not only domestics are poorly built, most are even underpowered.
I admit Ford's sorry excuse of a 4.0L v6 in their mustang as being underpowered.

Then again same goes for their 5.4L powering their trucks.
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most people still prefer imports over domestics.
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LMAO at the weights being stuck to the calipers.. That car is obviously for enthusiasts, and GM went and screwed them with that fix, it looks so cheap.
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