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06-29-2009, 01:08 AM
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#426 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by HachiSix  If Gillis can some how manage to ice two decent scoring lines then I don't mind seeing the twins go. Cause we've all seen how far we can get with just one scoring line. | We did have 2 decent scoring lines in Sedin/Sedin/Burrows & Kesler/Demitra/Sundin. In fact. I'd be bold enough to say 3 scoring lines. Sometimes the 3rd line of Wellwood and whichever plug they give him to center Raymond/Bernier/Pyatt, etc. have chipped in their appropriate amount (they are 3rd liners after all playing leftover minutes).
Unfortunately, it takes more than "decent" to beat out 29 other teams for the cup. It was good enough to get us a great regular season though; the NW Title.
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06-29-2009, 02:21 AM
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we cant win cup with
gaborik demitra hossa 1st line.... its only for entertainment
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06-29-2009, 02:23 AM
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I agree; no way we can win the cup with just one line. It has to be a well rounded team with enough talent on all 4 lines. Anyways, it should be a quite interesting day later today.
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06-29-2009, 02:41 AM
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sedin are consistant although they might have a cold streak but hey r still point per game players
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06-29-2009, 02:44 AM
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my opinions of the sedins -
Can they play without each other? Answer : No. So that really makes life difficult if you wanted to trade 1 or the other, they always have to be in a package. That what makes the 7million contracts they "deserve" not very valid.
Can Anyone else that's worth 7million play with OTHER players and play just as well? 90% yes.
Can the sedins STILL rack up the points without each other? 70% No. They would be very average players.
Thats my feeling why the money is better spend else where. You'll always need a trio/duo for a top #1 line, but then these 2 can never be traded apart like, Heatley, Spezza. Or St.Louis and Levaclair, malkin and crosby, backstrom and overchkin.
The list goes on. They aren't 2 individual players they are 2 in 1.
When together they are 2.35 of 2 players, but when they are seperated they are 0.75 of 1 player.
Not worth the deal.
*edit* excuse the grammar/spelling - late nite not trying anymore.
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06-29-2009, 08:21 AM
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I agree completely, they automatically handcuff any team that even wants just 1 of them because I don't think they will sign a contract unless the other brother is also signing with that team... they have to realize that situation is going to cost them a lot of $$$, but it's not like they aren't making stupid money anyway so it's up to them to decide... someone *might* step up to the plate and eat the $14 mill a year to get them both, but I highly doubt it...
That said, neither one has been injured long enough to see if the other is terrible without them, they've never been forced to play apart longer than a few games here and there. Who knows? I highly doubt they would ever sign on different teams though so we'll never find out LOL
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06-29-2009, 08:32 AM
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#432 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by shawn79 we cant win cup with
gaborik demitra hossa 1st line.... its only for entertainment | Exactly, and those two players cost more or the same as the Sedins. The twins haven't brought us a cup either but at least with them you know what your getting and they are very durable.
Gaborik is obviously a better talent in production and excitement then either Sedin but when you factor in injuries or potential to be injured you really are no further ahead.
Talking about the Sedins in the singular is a mute point they aren't signing on different teams it's a non starter.
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06-29-2009, 09:22 AM
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Let the Sedins walk and get some fresh faces on the team.. The thing I like about Gaborik is he is a gamebreaker..much like Kovalchuk where he is a threat everytime he is on the ice... That's what we need..and we also need speed to compete with the likes of Chicago, etc.
Anyways, I am really excited as to what our team will look like in a year or 2 with CoHo, Jordan, Grabs, and company..
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06-29-2009, 09:35 AM
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#434 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by shawn79 we cant win cup with
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Originally Posted by quasi Exactly, and those two players cost more or the same as the Sedins. | Gabori/Demo/Hossa line would destroy the Sedin/Sedin/Anybody line anytime.
Is it just me or does anyone else observe that the Sedin game only works when the opposing team is either tired or fatigued by a long shift, or a small team, or playing against 3rd line pluggers?
That's why AV has to line match to death. The Sedins are good players but they aren't the type to outplay any legitimate NHL team's top players without the considerations mentioned above.
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06-29-2009, 10:48 AM
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trying to get gaborik hossa and sedins ohnoes!!!
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06-29-2009, 11:02 AM
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Team 1040 poll is pretty split on if ppl think the Sedins will be here next season..49-51.
I like the fact that they are point a game players do not (have not) gotten injured, haven't ever complained about coaching a 3rd froward on their line etc etc.
Also I think it's huge that since the lockout on'y Thorton, Crosby, Ovechkin, Heatly, Kovalchuk have gotten or avg 70 points or more per season along with the Sedin...The others are getting top dollar. However the only thing, and I think its a big one and has been mentioned tirelessly on this thread is that - they want to play together and thats that...
THat lowers their market value BIG time in my opinion..I think they will get offers from other teams, no doubt....Habs have so much cap space...for example...but no team will offer them north of 6.5 i think...and most offers u would think would be in the 5 yr ballpark...
I think seeing other teams offers will benefit Gillis. I dunno...its like wait and see...but damn it....i can't wait...
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06-29-2009, 11:23 AM
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#438 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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06-29-2009, 11:34 AM
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#439 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by Noir Gabori/Demo/Hossa line would destroy the Sedin/Sedin/Anybody line anytime.
Is it just me or does anyone else observe that the Sedin game only works when the opposing team is either tired or fatigued by a long shift, or a small team, or playing against 3rd line pluggers?
That's why AV has to line match to death. The Sedins are good players but they aren't the type to outplay any legitimate NHL team's top players without the considerations mentioned above. | They would if Gaborik was healthy all season long but odds of that are not very good. The line would also cost more then the Sedins leaving less money for other players. I've never said Gaborik wasn't a stud, he's one of the most talented and explosive players in the NHL but he's also one of the most injury prone ones as as well. Then again Havlat has been known to be made of glass and played a full season last season so I guess you never know.
I still say the best case scenario would be to somehow sign the Sedins and Gaborik. Sedin/Sedin/Burrows and Gaborik/Demitra/Kessler. It doesn't fix our puck moving Dman problem but it would bolster the offense even more and you'd have two great scoring lines.
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06-29-2009, 11:41 AM
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Gaborik had surgery this year that is suppose to correct all the issues he had before.
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06-29-2009, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chairman Kaga Gaborik had surgery this year that is suppose to correct all the issues he had before. | Ya, Forsberg had surgery to correct his foot problems a few years ago and was as good as new. His agent has to say that he's trying to get a contract. I'm not saying it's not true but even if it wasn't true would you expect to hear anything but?
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06-29-2009, 01:39 PM
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#442 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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if we get gaborik, salo would have competition for the man of glass award
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06-29-2009, 01:46 PM
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#443 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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All this talk about Gaborik being made of glass or whatever is crazy.. that's what everyone said about Havlat..look waht he did with the hawks....
Gaborik has played 71, 78, 65,65,48,77,17 games respectively in the NHL.. so he's only been injury bugged twice..
Anyways, if he comes here, I'll be stoked and all the haters will be riding him after he shows up..
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06-29-2009, 02:44 PM
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#444 | | Say NO to blade grinders!
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Originally Posted by 411ken All this talk about Gaborik being made of glass or whatever is crazy.. that's what everyone said about Havlat..look waht he did with the hawks....
Gaborik has played 71, 78, 65,65,48,77,17 games respectively in the NHL.. so he's only been injury bugged twice..
Anyways, if he comes here, I'll be stoked and all the haters will be riding him after he shows up.. | lol I think everyone here is for signing Gaborik. Signing won't be hurting the team by any means. But we'll need more than just Gaborik if the Sedins do leave.
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06-29-2009, 02:59 PM
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#445 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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Originally Posted by 411ken All this talk about Gaborik being made of glass or whatever is crazy.. that's what everyone said about Havlat..look waht he did with the hawks....
Gaborik has played 71, 78, 65,65,48,77,17 games respectively in the NHL.. so he's only been injury bugged twice..
Anyways, if he comes here, I'll be stoked and all the haters will be riding him after he shows up.. | Crazy talk that Gaborik is made of glass? You posted the numbers yourself - he averaged 60 games a year, meaning he missed an average of 1/4 every season. He has been out more often than Salo and that says something about how injury prone he is.
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06-29-2009, 03:22 PM
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#446 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by d1 Crazy talk that Gaborik is made of glass? You posted the numbers yourself - he averaged 60 games a year, meaning he missed an average of 1/4 every season. He has been out more often than Salo and that says something about how injury prone he is. | An injury prone Gaborik still has more merit than a non-injury prone Sedins.
They're at the peak of their careers and despite their success, I don't really see them outplaying the NHL's top teams and top Defensemans. A lot of their goals are of the benefit of AV line juggling so that they can play against players on a tired-long-end of a shift, a team's 3rd line pluggers, or a team of small size.
Unlike Gaborik, who can play with NHL's best.
The twins are great if you want a regular season success. If you want post-season success, Gaborik's your better bet.
Seriously, the twin's cute plays may work wonders on teams like EDM, LA, or the like, but aren't gonna work on teams that tighten up the deeper they go into the Play Offs.
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06-29-2009, 03:43 PM
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#447 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by Noir An injury prone Gaborik still has more merit than a non-injury prone Sedins. | Based on what? Since the lockout there hasn't been one season that Gaborik has had more points then either Sedin. If you could guarantee they will play the same amount of games then no question but you can't discount being prone to injuries and missing games.
I just want what will make the team the most competitive. Maybe the Sedins gone and Gaborik and another player coming in is the answer? I'm just glad I don't have to make that decision so until then I'll just sit on the outside, wait and watch. Hopefully whatever happens works out for the best whether they stay or whether they go.
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Originally Posted by 411ken All this talk about Gaborik being made of glass or whatever is crazy.. that's what everyone said about Havlat..look waht he did with the hawks....
Gaborik has played 71, 78, 65,65,48,77,17 games respectively in the NHL.. so he's only been injury bugged twice..
Anyways, if he comes here, I'll be stoked and all the haters will be riding him after he shows up.. | Like Hachisix said most of us don't dislike Gaborik we just don't want to see the Sedins go. Like I've said a bunch of times best case scenario is sign all 3 of them.
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06-29-2009, 03:46 PM
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#448 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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im all for gabby coming here, we need an exciting player but gabby alone will not resolve any issues we have especially with the wonder twins leaving
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06-29-2009, 03:55 PM
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Gabby is a game breaker which we need, if we are up by 1 or tied he's the type ofplayer
To put it into overdrive and get the go ahead goal which we have been missing since bure
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06-29-2009, 04:02 PM
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#450 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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Yup, he is a game breaker. Look at what Gabby did this past season when he returned to the lineup for the Wild. He basically got the Wild within striking distance of the playoffs, without him the Wild were sinking to the bottom of the conference.
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