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01-14-2010, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronin  BTW: Ovechkin negotiated his own deal...so I'm sure he knew about the escrow before it happened. Also, the last time I checked, Ovie had a balls ton of endorsement deals here in North America...which pay him much more than he loses to the escrow. The second he bails to the KHL, all that stuff goes bye-bye. | There's plenty of endorsement deals to be had in Europe  Probably better deals than what you would get in the US, especially in places like Russia  | 
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01-14-2010, 07:16 PM
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#10877 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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im sure the owner of the KHL would pay ovi whatever he wanted for him to come play for him, and Russia = tax free
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01-14-2010, 07:27 PM
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#10878 | | Banned (ABWS)
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer im sure the owner of the KHL would pay ovi whatever he wanted for him to come play for him, and Russia = tax free | What fantasy world do you live in dude? There is no such thing as a tax free country. http://www.worldwide-tax.com/russia/russia_tax.asp | |
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01-14-2010, 08:36 PM
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#10879 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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Originally Posted by bengy | How KHL clubs woo NHL free agents: Gerber signs a tax-free, rent-free contract Quote:
Those that have been paying close attention to free agency this summer have noted the NHL goalie carousel that has become Atlant Mytischi, the KHL team that Martin Gerber signed with yesterday and which Antero Niittymaki was rumoured to be heading to two weeks ago.
Gerber will be taking over former teammate Ray Emery's role in Atlant, but according to a source, he received a far smaller contract of only $700,000 (U.S.) on a one -year deal — the same offer that was made to Niittymaki shortly after NHL free agency began July 1.
Niittymaki eventually took a one-year, $600,000 deal to play for the Lightning next season, but as we've heard in the past, there's more to these KHL contracts than the dollar figure.
One agent involved in signing players to KHL deals said that they are worth two and a half to three times their NHL equivalents because players do not have to pay tax on them and receive free housing, a car and most of their meals. Many are also given a cellphone and have their utilities paid for, as well as travel to and from their home country.
Niittymaki ultimately had the tax-free, incentive-laden deal from Atlant and multiple near league minimum offers from NHL teams, and opted for the paycut to play in Tampa, where he's hoping for more playing time than he would have received elsewhere. (Not a bad bet given Mike Smith continues to recover from his concussion issues.)
Some players make a different choice. One top scoring star in Europe had some interest from NHL teams but received far more lucrative deals in the KHL and ultimately signed for about $1-million. Others, such as Slovakia's Juraj Mikus, take less to try their luck in the NHL but have out clauses in their deals that allow them to return to Europe.
Meanwhile, the extreme lack of activity on the NHL's free agency market lately has had a big impact on European league players as teams hold out for the potential North American leftovers created by the salary cap crunch.
"There's approximately 100 unemployed players in Europe, and they started their on-ice sessions this week," said one agent. "If you add all the RFA/UFAs in North America, you can understand the panic among players."
He added that many GMs are waiting out the market, believing they'll get better deals as unclaimed players are more desperate for employment — on both sides of the ocean. And despite the tax-free offers in the KHL, the recession is having a major impact on hockey overseas.
"The NHL has escrow and a cap, so [the economics] will follow a somewhat predictable route when we see season-ticket renewals, but Europe is a mess. There are fewer rich owners to bail teams out when the going gets tough ... there could be bankruptcies but also 30- to 50-per-cent cuts on salaries.
"If you have a deal, you're okay because there's no collective bargaining, but guys without a long-term deal take the hit ... and most players in Europe have no financial cushion.
"It's going to be one friggin' ugly August-December. Alcoholism, divorces, etc., will follow."
Tough times all around, apparently, and it'll be interesting to see what that means for the 50 or so NHL-calibre free agents still looking for a home. You can see why the likes of Gerber and Niittymaki are accepting less to simply have regular employment, whether that's here, in Russia or elsewhere.
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KHL players my friend live in the fantasy world...
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01-14-2010, 08:55 PM
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#10880 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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So is the KHL and KHL teams actually making profits to pay these players or is it just rich owners throwing money around to lure players and not really giving a shit about making a profit or not?
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01-14-2010, 09:38 PM
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#10881 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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LA OUT , DET IN
Western conference is getting crazier from day to day.
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01-14-2010, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Greenstoner LA OUT , DET IN
Western conference is getting crazier from day to day. | Edit, LA is up 4-0 in the 3rd period.
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01-14-2010, 09:48 PM
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#10883 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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Originally Posted by bengy | sure maybe not completely "Tax free" but even places like Florida you are exempt from income tax.
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01-14-2010, 10:16 PM
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#10884 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS Edit, LA is up 4-0 in the 3rd period. | edited: you are right !!!!
NHL site hasnt done any update to LA's standing ... thats why i got confused
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01-14-2010, 10:39 PM
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#10885 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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sorry wrong thread
Last edited by Mr.Jay; 01-14-2010 at 10:44 PM.
Reason: posted in wrong thread
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01-14-2010, 10:44 PM
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#10886 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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Originally Posted by Mr.Jay I just find it creepy that sonick checks your profile
like come on you would have to be keeping tabs on that to notice
dude everyone says they quit and quitin isnt that hard its just you start to miss it | 
what are you talking about??
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01-14-2010, 11:10 PM
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#10887 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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^^ LOL.
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01-14-2010, 11:37 PM
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#10888 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Originally Posted by Jah Gekko
what are you talking about?? | failing at reply to sonicks thread about wanting to fail
my bad
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01-15-2010, 12:16 AM
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| Saturday, January 16th 2010 7:00pm on CBC Vancouver Canucks VS Pittsburg Penguins  | |
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01-15-2010, 02:05 AM
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#10890 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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looking forward to this game
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01-15-2010, 02:20 AM
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#10891 | | Banned (ABWS)
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| shouldn't it be Henrik Sedin Versus Sidney Crosby?????
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01-15-2010, 02:23 AM
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#10892 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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its gonna be a good game
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01-15-2010, 02:25 AM
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#10893 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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hopefully PITT is tired as fuck when they arrive in Vancouver so we can use it as an advantage
off topic- Toronto is only 9 pts from playoff spot...hahah
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01-15-2010, 02:46 AM
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#10894 | | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
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Originally Posted by Greenstoner off topic- Toronto is only 9 pts from playoff spot...hahah | and only 6pts away before being last in the league...hahaha
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01-15-2010, 07:13 AM
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#10895 | | (╯°□°）╯聽不到 ╮(°□°╮)
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Toronto will be "so close" yet "so far" from that 8th spot in the east anyways. They can only dream this season
as for the KHL garbage...The FUCKTARD EKLUND "notified" sportsnetca and Mike Brophy, being an IDIOT decided to followup emptiness
heres what Greg Wyshynski of Yahoo! Puck Daddy had to say bout the situation Quote: |
Mike Brophy of Sportsnet reports that "a source told sportsnet.ca Washington's Alexander Ovechkin is so upset about having to pay 18 percent of his salary to escrow he is prepared to consider leaving the Capitals after this season" for the KHL. A source tells us that Ovechkin has a marketing deal with IMG as a global sports celebrity that would probably discourage him from leaving the NHL for the KHL anytime soon. That source's name? Captain [Expletive] Obvious.
| the edm/pens game was fantastic! enjoying the hockey streams from HK!
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01-15-2010, 11:51 AM
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#10896 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by Jah Gekko So is the KHL and KHL teams actually making profits to pay these players or is it just rich owners throwing money around to lure players and not really giving a shit about making a profit or not? | The KHL sorta reminds me of the WHA which threw around money to players (e.g. Bobby Hull) in order to attract marque names. We all know what happened to the WHA in the end.
On the other hand, these rich businessmen in Russia are rich because the Russian government has somewhat of a hand in their wealth. Under Putin, Russia has become a much more nationalistic country; it could be easily argued that hockey, and by extention the KHL, is a symbol of pride. So, the Russian government has an interest in promoting the KHL by allowing teams to sign tax-free, incentive laden contracts.
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01-15-2010, 11:58 AM
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Kristyne De Mott held up a sign saying 'Marry me Sidney' as the Penguins took on the Flames. (QMI Agency/Darren Makowichuk)
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01-15-2010, 12:12 PM
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#10898 | | Fathered more RS members than anybody else. Who's your daddy?
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Kristyne De Mott held up a sign saying 'Marry me Sidney' as the Penguins took on the Flames. (QMI Agency/Darren Makowichuk) | Sloppy seconds........... shouldn't be wearing white. She's no virgin, LOL.
I hear she swallows.
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01-15-2010, 12:19 PM
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#10899 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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i'll take those sloppy seconds, haha
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01-15-2010, 01:01 PM
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#10900 | | RS.net PIMP
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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS
Kristyne De Mott held up a sign saying 'Marry me Sidney' as the Penguins took on the Flames. (QMI Agency/Darren Makowichuk) | She gets a -5 points on the hotness scale for being a Cindy Crosby fan
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