body shop rip off!?

[bobiness]

hey guys...i got a silly question to ask,
and i apologize for my noob-ility first lol
so i called a body shop today to get a
price quote on putting new 20" tires onto the rims,
i told them the profile of the tires were 245/60/20,
and they quote me 25 bucks/tire to mount the tires unto the rim.
so i got there, and i realized the tires that i bought were actaully
245/50/20, and they told me they will have to raise the price, and
charge me 35 bucks/tire, because it is harder to mount the 245/50/20
tires unto the rims.
does that make sense?
i thought the thicker the tire, the harder to put it on?
sorry for any of u having a hard time to read this thread...
i dunno any technical terminologies to describe it...
thanks in advance!!

[!SG]

the taller the sidewall, the easier to mount the tire.

so comparitively, a 245/60/20 would be easier to mount than a 245/60/20.

think of it as leverage, a taller sidewall, gives you more leverage to mount the bead onto the wheel.

if u get the chance, go to a tire shop, and feel twist if u can a tire with a tall side wall, then do the same with a shorter side wall, you will notice u require less force to be able to move the tall sidewall.

however, with that said, 60 series to 50 series isnt much, if it was 60 series to something like 30 series, then i can see the trouble.

[skyxx]

The lower the profile the harder it is to mount be cause the side wall gets stiffer and more rigid. But that place is pricey for mounting and balancing. Why not go to one of RS's sponsor; Advance Motorsport.

Something off topic, I remember mounting 20" tyres at a profile of 30. Boy were they rock solid. I had to ask someone to help me press down on some areas of the tyre while I mount the tire. LOL Good times.

[ilvtofu]

ouch $35 to mount a tire, I know it's huge, but thats more than 2x the price of regular mounting, but they are pretty typical SUV size today!

where is this place?

[mmmk]

Originally Posted by ilvtofu

ouch $35 to mount a tire, I know it's huge, but thats more than 2x the price of regular mounting, but they are pretty typical SUV size today!

where is this place?

$35/tire is okay for a 20" wheel......but it's stupid how they jacked up the price by $10/tire because of a small change in the tire's aspect ratio

my 18" tires (245/45/18) cost $25 each to mount and 19" tires (275/35/19) cost a bit more to mount

[Ludepower]

Learn the difference between bodyshop and tire shop...fool.

[BNR32_Coupe]

Originally Posted by skyxx

The lower the profile the harder it is to mount be cause the side wall gets stiffer and more rigid. But that place is pricey for mounting and balancing. Why not go to one of RS's sponsor; Advance Motorsport.

Something off topic, I remember mounting 20" tyres at a profile of 30. Boy were they rock solid. I had to ask someone to help me press down on some areas of the tyre while I mount the tire. LOL Good times.

^this guys got it right

[!SG]

$35 bucks a tire is CHEAP!

this is what you have to ask yourself. what machine are they using to mount the tire.

now if u have a big tire, with lots of sidewall, then any machine can get the job done. if you have low pros, then you need a machine that has the ability to do it without damaging the rim. the issue comes with this, you really cant go with just the series profile anymore. a 275/30 has just about as much side wall as a 205/40 (if you measure the actual height of the sidewall). you also need the skill, a skilled tire guy can mount the tire without scratching the rim. having a machine that can do it + the skilled tire guy = WIN.

so $35 is nothing. Advance starts at $45 per tire for 20s. Thats considered cheap especially if u want to have rims that arent scratched in the process.

Just remember, it costs at least 100 bucks per rim to get repaired if scratched, and most tire shops cannot garantee they wont scratch the rim.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by !SG

Just remember, it costs at least 100 bucks per rim to get repaired if scratched, and most tire shops cannot garantee they wont scratch the rim.

this is know

$130 quote to repair 18" curbed wheel, another $25 to re/re tire 40-series tire (advance/panther)

[fliptuner]

Originally Posted by !SG

a 245/60/20 would be easier to mount than a 245/60/20.

really?

I had to read that like 3 times to make sure. hahaha


To the OP: Make sure you got to a TIRE SHOP not a BODY SHOP. As SG said, make sure the equipment is new/up to date and they deal with large wheels regularly.

Hell, I have a tire machine at home and still have to send out a few to get done at reliable shops. I make every attempt to do a clean install but sometimes you NEED a good machine to get the job done right. 195/40 and 215/35 = outsource. hahaha

[!SG]

haha, shit, i meant 245/60/20 is easier to mount than a 245/50/20

Originally Posted by fliptuner

really?

I had to read that like 3 times to make sure. hahaha


To the OP: Make sure you got to a TIRE SHOP not a BODY SHOP. As SG said, make sure the equipment is new/up to date and they deal with large wheels regularly.

Hell, I have a tire machine at home and still have to send out a few to get done at reliable shops. I make every attempt to do a clean install but sometimes you NEED a good machine to get the job done right. 195/40 and 215/35 = outsource. hahaha

[TRDood]

$35 is about normal.

you probably spent $300 per rim and another $300 per tire.
you can't afford 5% of the cost to put it on the car properly?

i don't know what kind of rims/tires you have.. but if i had nice ones.. i want it done right the first time and forget about it.

i see how people @ volco do those mountings... man, they fucking hammer it down!

[VR6GTI]

[QUOTE=TRDood;6481293]$35 is about normal.

you probably spent $300 per rim and another $300 per tire.
you can't afford 5% of the cost to put it on the car properly?

QUOTE]
yup thats about right