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07-10-2009, 07:33 PM
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V6 Camaro I wouldn't count on them for being much of a performer....that's like V6 Stangs....
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07-10-2009, 09:49 PM
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#127 | | I don't like cheese but I love milk!
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Honda isn't about sport car (at least not anymore)
They are now focusing on the major crowds, such as your mom and dad who wants an economical and reliable car for "transportation"
and 50k for an s2000 is just silly
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07-10-2009, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferra  Honda isn't about sport car (at least not anymore)
They are now focusing on the major crowds, such as your mom and dad who wants an economical and reliable car for "transportation"
and 50k for an s2000 is just silly | LOL....So you're suggesting that s2k's and Si's are for moms and dads? If thats the case, I wish my mom would buy an ITR. | |
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07-10-2009, 10:19 PM
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#129 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by hk20000 V6 Camaro I wouldn't count on them for being much of a performer....that's like V6 Stangs.... | Doesn't the new V6 Camaro have something like 300hp?
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07-10-2009, 10:38 PM
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#130 | | Banned (BBM)
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s2k underpower lol
240hp 162 torque , have u look at weight ratio first?
do you see s2k slower than rx-8, or 350z in its class?
despite the 40hp more on the 350z and like 100 pounds more torque which makes up for the extra weight, u dont see s2k trailing a bus length behind 350z do you? 
guess you gonna complain a Lotus elise is underpower too
name how many 2.0L N/A without force induction that makes 200hp +, none and over 200 pounds of torque? no car manufacture in history can do it
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07-10-2009, 10:39 PM
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#131 | | OWNER/C.F.O./MONEYMAN
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horse power is nice, but torque is where its at.
not knocking the s2k, but the whole point was to show the world that honda can squeeze so much hp out of such a small displacement NA engine. its still an awesome fun car to drive and it feels very nimble compared to the 350z.
the veq35 was proven many times to be a very good engine, adaptable right across the whole nissan board of cars.
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07-10-2009, 10:40 PM
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#132 | | Banned (BBM)
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Originally Posted by Draft I'd rather buy the MS3 than the Genesis, actually over all the cars you listed
I wouldnt even have to do any sort of engine mods, its already a beast stock | werd
i heart MS3 absolutely every inch of my heart
best $30g spent, 260hp 280 torque
Hyundai? no thank you
SE or samsung?
Sony or Samsung/LG?
if all of them are in similar price range
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07-10-2009, 10:56 PM
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#133 | | I STILL don't get it
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I saw a Honda Prelude that's year <1999 (definitely not the latest generation one, probably the one before) today and it was just cruising with a Honda 600RR motorcycle on the s2s.
What impresses me was that the prelude was blazing fast and kept up with the bike the whole time. They were probably doing 160-210 in the corners and just a couple car lengths apart.
What kinda of engine would be under the hood of that prelude and rough estimate of the HP and torque? It was not stock for sure as it was plowing up the hill like it had 500ft-lbs. It was impressive on the amounts of power that prelude put out even though they shouldn't have been cruising so fast.
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07-10-2009, 11:19 PM
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#134 | | Banned (BBM)
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H22 2.2L 200hp 155ish torque
probably forced induction
stock prelude is pretty slow
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07-10-2009, 11:48 PM
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#135 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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also, the chassis of the BB6 prelude is quite heavy. I wouldn't doubt the Prelude was modified to give it better acceleration and handling. perhaps the 600RR wasn't being ridden to the full limit of the bike's potential? also, cars can be more faster and stable on corners since they have more tire touching the pavement.
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07-11-2009, 12:21 AM
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#136 | | straight from the fields of squamton
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seeing cars on the highway isn't the best way to judge their performance.
Last time I went to kelowna I rolled with a bentley, bike, G35c and some AMG mercedes, and we did hope-kelowna in less than an hour and a half. we did 180-220 most of the way, but it still doesn't put my car in the same ranks as the bentley or the bike.  (bike was behind us at the time)
as for the prelude, my friend had an 02, and our other friends turbo fireflea with a ghetto boost controller was faster. preludes FTL
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07-11-2009, 01:14 AM
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#137 | | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
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Originally Posted by 1990TSI
as for the prelude, my friend had an 02, and our other friends turbo fireflea with a ghetto boost controller was faster. preludes FTL
| clearly you know nothing about preludes, they were discontinued in 01
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07-11-2009, 01:23 AM
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#138 | | F**K YOUR HEAD
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Originally Posted by death_blossom Doesn't the new V6 Camaro have something like 300hp? | yup, he's just like any other close minded individual who judged the book by it's cover, It's got 300hp and independent suspension
3.6 with 304hp, weighs about 3700lbs-38000, not bad at all
Good on gas too under 12L/100km in the city rating.
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07-11-2009, 09:57 AM
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#139 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by CivicTypeRice Conclusion: MS3 would all have their ass fed to them by a stock 17 year old 5.0 mustang with 275000kms on the motor.
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07-11-2009, 12:03 PM
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#140 | | MonoPod 1 of 3
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07-11-2009, 12:16 PM
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#141 | | straight from the fields of squamton
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Originally Posted by marco712 clearly you know nothing about preludes, they were discontinued in 01 | don't know or don't care, either way they're junk.
they looked decent, but were too heavy and had as much torque as my lugnuts need.
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07-11-2009, 12:18 PM
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#142 | | Banned (ABWS)
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It ain't a Tight car if it ain't a Type -R
enough said
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07-11-2009, 12:25 PM
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#143 | | F**K YOUR HEAD
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^pretty much
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07-11-2009, 03:34 PM
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you are over torquing ur lug nuts like a noob then. you should not be going over 100 ft lbs.
and you owned yourself there... how much does the prelude weigh?
here are some stats. 97-01 Honda Prelude 2970lbs. 200Hp / 2970lbs = power to weight ratio of 1HP / 14.85lbs
how much does the genesis coupe weigh? Genesis Coupe 2.0T curb weight - 3294lbs 210Hp / 3294lbs = power to weight ratio of 1HP / 15.68lbs Genesis Coupe 2.0T curb weight - 3294lbs 223Hp / 3294lbs = power to weight ratio of 1HP / 14.77lbs (premium gas)
thus the genesis coupe weighs more, and has to work harder to push more weight per horsepower it produces unless you are on premium gas, then u edge out the prelude... so as heavy as the prelude was, your car is still heavier. but the turbo makes up for that. the torque numbers are what make the difference. Quote:
Originally Posted by 1990TSI don't know or don't care, either way they're junk.
they looked decent, but were too heavy and had as much torque as my lugnuts need. | | |
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07-11-2009, 03:40 PM
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#145 | | Banned (BBM)
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Originally Posted by !SG you are over torquing ur lug nuts like a noob then. you should not be going over 100 ft lbs.
and you owned yourself there... how much does the prelude weigh?
here are some stats.
97-01 Honda Prelude 2970lbs. 200Hp / 2970lbs = power to weight ratio of 1HP / 14.85lbs
how much does the genesis coupe weigh?
Genesis Coupe 2.0T curb weight - 3294lbs 210Hp / 3294lbs = power to weight ratio of 1HP / 15.68lbs
Genesis Coupe 2.0T curb weight - 3294lbs 223Hp / 3294lbs = power to weight ratio of 1HP / 14.77lbs (premium gas)
thus the genesis coupe weighs more, and has to work harder to push more weight per horsepower it produces unless you are on premium gas, then u edge out the prelude... so as heavy as the prelude was, your car is still heavier. but the turbo makes up for that. the torque numbers are what make the difference.
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holly shit, genesis weighs a shit load
no wonder the V6 aint that fast
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07-11-2009, 03:56 PM
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the v6 genesis is only a bit heavier, but making 300hp, makes up for the weight.
its a good first attempt by hyundai that should make a lot of the other car manufactuers take a good long look at their own progression
and yes, i got all my info by just google searching.
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07-12-2009, 03:42 AM
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#147 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by Great68 Nope. | +1
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07-12-2009, 08:02 AM
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#148 | | F**K YOUR HEAD
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Originally Posted by Great68 Nope. | +2?
lol definitely not a stock 5.0
3rd gen cobra just maybe...
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07-12-2009, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pandalove It ain't a Tight car if it ain't a Type -R
enough said
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07-12-2009, 09:11 AM
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hmm 266 pounds of torque for V6
233 for turbo version
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