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07-20-2009, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kalize  so that means all their cars are gonna be FWD?
hmmm the next S2000 will be FWD...
Honda is dumb. Plain and Simple...no wonder their lineup is lackluster...especially their Acura lineup... | Honda doesn't care what RS says.
if your mom insists to buy a Honda for you to go to school, what can you complain?
Honda has built a fucking solid reputation in the baby boomers' mind.
they do their research and read the feedback from the end-users.
spending money one a RWD V8, won't boost their sales a lot.
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realistically, you can leave out V8...but RWD...comon mang...
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07-20-2009, 10:50 PM
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#28 | | F**K YOUR HEAD
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Doesn't matter if honda makes one or not, as long as RWD V8s don't die i'm fine.
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07-20-2009, 10:56 PM
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#29 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by orange7 I drive a Honda, and I agree with you.
Back then they were good and creative, but now we're in a different time zone. WE WANT v8 RWD! | Yeah the time where the economy is down, unemployment is up, and fuel prices are are never below $1 per gallon. Quote:
Originally Posted by orange7 i guess honda will never be able to compete with the big boys...
gosh.. and i was really hopping to hear that v8 | By big boys you mean the guys dependent on government bailouts for survivability?
Face it. Sporty, high powered, large displacement cars are only for niche markets. It's a smart decision for the time being. Who knows, someday if times change, maybe they'll revisit their position in those certain market niches.
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07-20-2009, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jing Hyundai Genesis
... and the upcoming Toyota/Subaru FR sports coupe, and a possible resurrection of the Nissan Silvia. | Yep
add the new camaro, V6 mustang to affordable RWD sports coupes.
and the comment about 2000 having 'sporty cars' is a joke. in 2000 there was nothing. The japanese sports cars died when the RX-7, Supra, 300ZX and even S14 or 2G DSM stopped production in north america, so mid-late 90s. 2000 was also before the Evo or STi were here, which is about all japan had to offer until recently
It looks like the asian auto makers relized we wanted to back to the early 90s with turbo rwd sports cars and have started to set it in motion.
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07-20-2009, 11:05 PM
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So basically they are following what Toyota is doing.
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07-20-2009, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Noir Yeah the time where the economy is down, unemployment is up, and fuel prices are are never below $1 per gallon.
By big boys you mean the guys dependent on government bailouts for survivability?
Face it. Sporty, high powered, large displacement cars are only for niche markets. It's a smart decision for the time being. Who knows, someday if times change, maybe they'll revisit their position in those certain market niches. | Ya.. I totally agree with you that what Honda is doing is actually a really smart move in a business stand point. Just look at GM and its loosing profit corvette, especially in a time like this. Honda has been known for its reliability and fuel efficiency, so it's really unreasonable to make cars in those levels.
It just sucks to hear that honda has canceled the v8 and the rwd platform after the cancellation of the NSX.
Even though I understand that Honda might come out loosing money from a v8 RWD, I really want to see what vtech in a v8 can do. I'm a car enthusiastic, and even though i can't afford any of those v8 rwd cars I still want to read and admire them. However, if i'm a business man I would give mad props to Honda.
I know what i just said is selfish because there is always a chance that Honda might destroy it self from making a v8 rwd in this economical time. I'm just a little upset with all the hope I had for the NSX and the v8. You gotta admitt it too that you had actually looked forward for the NSX and v8.
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07-20-2009, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Noir Yeah the time where the economy is down, unemployment is up, and fuel prices are are never below $1 per gallon.
By big boys you mean the guys dependent on government bailouts for survivability?
Face it. Sporty, high powered, large displacement cars are only for niche markets. It's a smart decision for the time being. Who knows, someday if times change, maybe they'll revisit their position in those certain market niches. | http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...vette-mpg.html
seems like alot of corvette drivers get 26-30 mpg. not bad by any means
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07-20-2009, 11:54 PM
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#34 | | "They call me Bowser...RawR!"
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Originally Posted by Noir By big boys you mean the guys dependent on government bailouts for survivability?
Face it. Sporty, high powered, large displacement cars are only for niche markets. It's a smart decision for the time being. Who knows, someday if times change, maybe they'll revisit their position in those certain market niches. |
No, not the bailout duo and forget the sportscar segment...
We can all agree that Acura competes in the luxury car segment right? Well, all their competitors with the exception of maybe Audi are RWD with available V8's. Lexus, BMW, Caddy, Merc, etc... If they want to compete in this market, they should build a similar car.
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07-21-2009, 12:06 AM
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Sure the import sports compact/sports car market wasn't as strong as it used to be in the 80-90's..i still dont think it's that bad.
Toyota kinda died down first in mid 90's with the discont MR2/Supra..but the somewhat sporty cars were still around for a tad longer (celica/IS in 2000 and MR-S in mid2000). But the IS-F recently emerged.
Honda was mid 2000's if you exclude prelude/DC2R (nsx/rsx and the s2000 hasnt been updated since 06)...while the new Si emerged
nissan still had the G coupe + Z + recently GT-R
mazda lost their rx-7 while ago..but still has their rx-8 and mazdaspeed line-uup
Subbies had the STi since 04
Mitsubishi recently with Evo
Hyundai with Tiburon + recently genesis
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07-21-2009, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalize Honda is dumb. Plain and Simple... | Wow you are a genius! 
But for some unquantifiable reason, Honda has the best balance sheet by far out of all the automakers. Hmm...
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07-21-2009, 07:00 AM
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Leaving V8/RWD is good for their company from a financial point of view.
Nobody is debating that driving V8/RWD is exciting, but given the cost of fuel and the collapsing economy, the greater part of the global population will refrain from buying and using such gas guzzlers. This is what the American auto makers failed to realize, and one of the nails in their current coffins.
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07-21-2009, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleSpeaker not everyone is into backward technology
i know this is a car forum | Retard...
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"I don't think we need a classic front-engine, rear-drive car. It would be meaningless to emulate what other companies have done for more than five decades."
FWD, AWD > RWD
small efficient 16 valves I4 > American V8 2-valve pushrod
VTEC > Non-VTEC
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Backwards? This is a car forum.
Most car enthusiasts want RWD, we want to be able to steer with our right foot, not white knuckle the steering wheel dealing with FWD torque steer or understeer corners in AWD. I wish there were more options for smaller RWD cars like the 1-series or my C-class coupe.
As for V8s, despite the gas-mileage green hippies, many of us still think like:  |  | |
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#41 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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is it cheaper to manufacture FWD?
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Originally Posted by EagleSpeaker FWD, AWD > RWD | Please leave the car forum and go join a hippy safety forum.
There's a reason race cars, dragsters, ... are RWD.
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Originally Posted by ImportPsycho is it cheaper to manufacture FWD? | Kinda.
Think about how much easier it is to design a car when you don't have to worry about a driveshaft and rear diff. Anyone that's been in the rear seat of a 1-series knows how much space the driveshaft tunnel takes away from the interior.
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Final nail in the coffin for Acura as a "premium" brand
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Originally Posted by achiam Leaving V8/RWD is good for their company from a financial point of view.
Nobody is debating that driving V8/RWD is exciting, but given the cost of fuel and the collapsing economy, the greater part of the global population will refrain from buying and using such gas guzzlers. This is what the American auto makers failed to realize, and one of the nails in their current coffins. | for now.........
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07-21-2009, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleSpeaker "I don't think we need a classic front-engine, rear-drive car. It would be meaningless to emulate what other companies have done for more than five decades."
FWD, AWD > RWD
small efficient 16 valves I4 > American V8 2-valve pushrod
VTEC > Non-VTEC | Vtec i4s are inherently terrible engines.
having to rev to 7k to get for 160 tq? no thx.
honda has never made a car that is even on the same lvl as a zr1. or even a z06, or even a reg vette
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So.. Honda finally admits they don't make performance cars? Maybe the ricer fanbois will stop trying to race everyone in their Civics.
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#48 | | "They call me Bowser...RawR!"
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Originally Posted by achiam Leaving V8/RWD is good for their company from a financial point of view.
Nobody is debating that driving V8/RWD is exciting, but given the cost of fuel and the collapsing economy, the greater part of the global population will refrain from buying and using such gas guzzlers. This is what the American auto makers failed to realize, and one of the nails in their current coffins. | But what the general public failed to realize is that the American auto makers have several models that have good mileage and more are on their way. Selling cars isn't a problem, last year the second best selling brand was Chevy behind Toyota.
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07-21-2009, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Please leave the car forum and go join a hippy safety forum.
There's a reason race cars, dragsters, ... are RWD. | it's not like your little Kompressor is any better
silly ricer
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