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08-25-2009, 09:21 PM
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| Can cops from coquitlam give me a ticket in Vancouver?
Well, i have a court day this week.
I just found out it is actually set in Coquitlam court. So apprently the cops gave me the ticket for running a yellow light is from Coquitlam.
I ran a yellow light like 1 year ago in Vancouver. Do they have the jurisdiction to give me a ticket? since they are not VPD?
Should I expect a automatic win on this court?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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08-25-2009, 09:39 PM
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1, this should be in the police forum. 2, try searching 'jurisdiction' in the police forum. im pretty sure this has been answered already.
3, unless you're color blind or something, there's no such thing as running a yellow light. you can be ticketed for running a red tho
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Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe  unless you're color blind or something, there's no such thing as running a yellow light. you can be ticketed for running a red tho | Cool. So it's legal to turn right on a yellow light. That's news to me. 
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Originally Posted by Alatar Cool. So it's legal to turn right on a yellow light. That's news to me. | I believe it's legal to turn right on a RED if it's not prohibited by sign in BC
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08-25-2009, 09:55 PM
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i believe its legal to turn right on a red but you have to stop first then proceed
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Originally Posted by kobefans Do they have the jurisdiction to give me a ticket? since they are not VPD? |
The C in RCMP is 'Canadian' meaning they have national jurisdiction, even in places where the municipal police force operates.
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08-25-2009, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kobefans Well, i have a court day this week.
I just found out it is actually set in Coquitlam court. So apprently the cops gave me the ticket for running a yellow light is from Coquitlam.
I ran a yellow light like 1 year ago in Vancouver. Do they have the jurisdiction to give me a ticket? since they are not VPD?
Should I expect a automatic win on this court?
Any help is greatly appreciated. | YES, they can ticket you in Vancouver if they wish.
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08-25-2009, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by El Bastardo The C in RCMP is 'Canadian' meaning they have national jurisdiction, even in places where the municipal police force operates. | Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
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how would u get a ticket for running a yellow..... it was either a red or you were speeding
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Sarcasm is lost on you guys.
Regardless of situation, a right turn on a yellow light is a ticketable offense.
Nowhere in that post did I make any comment of a right turn on red. Work on your reading comprehension.
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Originally Posted by Alatar Sarcasm is lost on you guys.
Regardless of situation, a right turn on a yellow light is a ticketable offense. | Really? What's the offense?
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Originally Posted by EgOne i believe its legal to turn right on a red but you have to stop first then proceed |
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128 (1) When a yellow light alone is exhibited at an intersection by a traffic control signal, following the exhibition of a green light,
(a) the driver of a vehicle approaching the intersection and facing the yellow light must cause it to stop before entering the marked crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or if there is no marked crosswalk, before entering the intersection, unless the stop cannot be made in safety,
At no time if traveling the speed limit in municipalities should you be unable to stop, and regardless, if you don't stop, you just broke that law. Any officer will be able to point this out. 50km/hr is clearly posted on city streets, unless otherwise posted (ie: school and park zones).
Good luck trying to fight it if you think you weren't able to stop. See if you get slapped with driving without due care.
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Originally Posted by misteranswer Really? What's the offense? | Improper turn at intersection
MVA 165(5)
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Originally Posted by TRD604 Improper turn at intersection
MVA 165(5)
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3 pts | That too. So there you go, 2 citations possible for the given scenario.
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lets say a vpd officer was in Surrey, can he issue ticket?
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All municipal police force officers are sworn in under the BC's Police Act. In theory, they can give you a ticket anywhere in BC; but will they? May be.
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Originally Posted by PHO? lets say a vpd officer was in Surrey, can he issue ticket? | yes. they can exercise the law anywhere in BC.
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Originally Posted by Alatar 128 (1) When a yellow light alone is exhibited at an intersection by a traffic control signal, following the exhibition of a green light,
(a) the driver of a vehicle approaching the intersection and facing the yellow light must cause it to stop before entering the marked crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or if there is no marked crosswalk, before entering the intersection, unless the stop cannot be made in safety,
At no time if traveling the speed limit in municipalities should you be unable to stop, and regardless, if you don't stop, you just broke that law. Any officer will be able to point this out. 50km/hr is clearly posted on city streets, unless otherwise posted (ie: school and park zones).
Good luck trying to fight it if you think you weren't able to stop. See if you get slapped with driving without due care. | i bet tickets for that are handed out as often as speeding tickets for people going 50.6 kmph. regardless, im not sure about the exact situation the OP was in, but he can easily say he was unable to stop in time unless he was going idle speed.
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08-26-2009, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Alatar At no time if traveling the speed limit in municipalities should you be unable to stop, and regardless, if you don't stop, you just broke that law. Any officer will be able to point this out. 50km/hr is clearly posted on city streets, unless otherwise posted (ie: school and park zones).
Good luck trying to fight it if you think you weren't able to stop. See if you get slapped with driving without due care. |
Umm...should I assume you're being sarcastic?
You can travel 50 km/h and be unable to stop safely. What happens when you are within 20 feet of the intersection and the light changes? What if you're 5 feet away and the light changes?
And no, it's not "regardless, if you don't stop, you just broke the law". If you can't stop safely, you're breaking the law by actually stopping and getting stuck in the middle of the intersection.
I also hope you're not suggesting that you've never entered an intersection while the light was yellow, whether it's when you couldn't stop in time, or whether you were in a hurry and just decided to gun it.
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Originally Posted by MXQBLGH Umm...should I assume you're being sarcastic?
You can travel 50 km/h and be unable to stop safely. What happens when you are within 20 feet of the intersection and the light changes? What if you're 5 feet away and the light changes?
And no, it's not "regardless, if you don't stop, you just broke the law". If you can't stop safely, you're breaking the law by actually stopping and getting stuck in the middle of the intersection.
I also hope you're not suggesting that you've never entered an intersection while the light was yellow, whether it's when you couldn't stop in time, or whether you were in a hurry and just decided to gun it. | So, you take right turns at full speed without slowing down? Tokyo Drift fan? If you're making a right turn, you can't tell me that you don't slow down, and wouldn't be able to stop, from your already decelerated speed. Of course, I mean, maybe you do whip around corners going 50km/hr. I always enjoy a good 90 degree change of direction and the intense G-Forces that go with them. When I'm go-karting, anyway.
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^ Yup exactly, if you are slow enough to turn, you are slow enough to stop.
Going straight-thru is a different story.
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Originally Posted by Alatar So, you take right turns at full speed without slowing down? Tokyo Drift fan? If you're making a right turn, you can't tell me that you don't slow down, and wouldn't be able to stop, from your already decelerated speed. Of course, I mean, maybe you do whip around corners going 50km/hr. I always enjoy a good 90 degree change of direction and the intense G-Forces that go with them. When I'm go-karting, anyway. | lol my fault my distances were messed up in the previous post, I guess 20 ft should be enough distance, but 5 feet? No way you're gonna jam on the brakes and be able to stop before the stop line/crosswalk.
let's just say it's possible to have the light change while you're just about to enter the intersection, and that even though you've slowed down to begin with, to come to a complete stop would require you to be halfway in the intersection or blocking the crosswalk. Neither of which are legal.
Maybe for some major intersections with lots of pedestrians, you'd slow a bit more than you normally would to make a right turn on green, but other 'smaller' less busy intersections when you can see clearly no one's crossing...you wouldn't slow as much as you would. I don't see how it's that hard to imagine?
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