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Old 09-08-2009, 12:23 AM   #1
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s2000 sc or turbo?

Hey everyone, I've been running my s2000 on N/A for a while but I am looking for more power now. what are the pros and cons of supercharging or turbocharging it.

I know its not even close to comparison, but i want to beat a GTR.

any suggestions would be cool
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:26 AM   #2
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Which GT-R?

Ask Jason why he got rid of his S/C'ed S2k, IIRC the rear diff kept blowing.
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:28 AM   #3
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09 GTR stock
stock GTR = mid-11s car
stock S2k = low-14s or high-13s car

You may as well get a GTR.
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:46 AM   #6
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stock GTR = mid-11s car
stock S2k = low-14s or high-13s car

You may as well get a GTR.
well, my s2k wont be stock. what i mean is, would i need to turbo or sc it to beat a stock GTR

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well, my s2k wont be stock. what i mean is would i need to turbo or sc it to beat a stock GTR
A 2JZ swap and then some.
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And the 2JZ-GTE won't even fit the IS without some fab. work... it's going to cost you one way or another.
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2JZ in s2k has been done.

I wouldn't boost an s2k just to beat a gtr. Not worth it anyway.
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Why? Does your friend drive a GTR and you feel jealous?

I know how you feel.
I always wanna beat an STI (Of course my goal is not as high as your's vs a GTR.)
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:32 AM   #11
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can you get a stronger Diff that fits the s2k?

if so then you can boost it what ever way you want.

Nitrous kit could be another option on top of s/c or t/c
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pros/cons of supercharger is a long debate, which you could prolly hit the search button for.

in my experience, boost as it goes for s2k's always lies with turbo, as a good tune will allow you not to blow up your car...

that being said... you wanna beat a GT-R? just buy something better... you're not going to take a $50k car (s2k brand new) and whoop a $100k car (GT-R) with $10k worth of boost.

don't be one of those douchebag civic's that's pullin a great stock 127HP and start revving next to Evo's and shit.
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don't be one of those douchebag civic's that's pullin a great stock 127HP and start revving next to Evo's and shit.
or a si reving next to a LS600h
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it's been done

stronger diff, turbo and drag tires will beat a gt-r

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQst99sHUsc
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Lol, lets say you tune your S2k to beat the GTR now.

Winter comes, you'll still lose cuz you wont be able to drive your car! =(
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You would have to come up with an entire modification plan to get your s2k to beat a GTR rather than going turbo/SC.

There are tuned s2k out there that can be faster than GTR, but they have some serious money invested.
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I'd be scared to drive a S2k with 480hp/430lb-ft of torque

Like somebody already said...for the amount of money you're going to have to spend, you're better off getting a GT-R.
Power is only half the battle...you need to worry about traction, reliability, driveability, cooling, chassis reinforcement, fuel, etc.

Even if you could get a power curve up to GT-R territory (not likely, since the motor is just too small), you wouldn't want to daily drive it, which means GT-R still > you
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can you get a stronger Diff that fits the s2k?

if so then you can boost it what ever way you want.

Nitrous kit could be another option on top of s/c or t/c
yup. there are options out there for building up the diff in the s2k, but it seems that most people don't want to put the money and effort into it and just let the stock one keep blowing.
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how much are you willing to spend? you can come reasonable close pretty easily.

Kraftwerks Supercharger: $6300 USD
needs no tuning, needs no building up of the motor, and is easy enough to install you can do it yourself. 325whp. apparently daily driveable, and very reliable.
http://www.kraftwerksusa.com/product...p?productId=55

PuddyMod Built Diff: $2500 USD +$? for install
http://www.hardtopguy.com/store/prod...0&cat=0&page=1

Beefier ACT Clutch: $700 USD, +$1000? for install
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/produc...cts/S2000/ACT/

you'd be out maybe $14,000 CAD when it's all said and done?
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:59 PM   #22
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Why? Does your friend drive a GTR and you feel jealous?

I know how you feel.
I always wanna beat an STI (Of course my goal is not as high as your's vs a GTR.)
I am still debating if i should extensively do up my s2k and or is300 or get an ISF. the problem with the ISF is that there isn much aftermarket parts for it yet. both performance and exterior parts.

and yes I am jealous of someone. just so unfair just because his family is rich and he drives a GTR seems like all of a sudden everyone worships him. anyways back on topic. what other cars could I consider if i were not to tc or sc my s2k/is300?
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Sigh - there's always going to be someone faster or who's going to have a nicer car than you, just deal with it. Say you put 30k into your S2k to beat him - he can spend another 10k and whoop you again. The GTR aftermarket is going to be huge and if he's well off, he's probably going to start modding his car as well. Just be happy with your car and work on becoming a better person.
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e36 m3. twin screw supercharger. stage 2. power comes at 1500 rpm. 500 whp. bye bye datsun. excellent daily driver. whole thing will cost around 35,000.
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