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10-13-2009, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Milhouse  Is that considered riding the clutch?
I thought you have to push the clutch all the way in to shift. | If you're moving then yeah I think thats considered riding the clutch but I think he meant at a light
But I thought if you dont press your clutch all the way down you could possibly grind your gears?
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10-13-2009, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Hines If you're moving then yeah I think thats considered riding the clutch but I think he meant at a light
But I thought if you dont press your clutch all the way down you could possibly grind your gears? | I think as long as you get it slightly past the friction point, it's fine. That's what I do and I think as long as you don't feel anything/hear anything then it's fine.  | |
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10-13-2009, 03:31 PM
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#28 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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When I started driving standard, I pressed the clutch all the way to the bottom as well. Now I just push it slightly past the friction point. Also, you sort of ride the clutch when you're moving from a dead stop...
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10-13-2009, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CRS I just find that when I'm on a hill, there is ALWAYS some asshole that is super close to me. They may be like 1 foot away from my rear bumper and I always have to be cautious that I don't back up into them. I don't understand why people just don't give others the proper amount of space.
Stupid. | When I arrive at the light I usually let my car roll back enough that the guy coming up gets startled and gives me tons of space, seems to do the job.
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10-13-2009, 03:38 PM
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if u back into them from shifting its their fault anyway right? we're supposed to keep distance when stopping behind someone
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10-13-2009, 03:39 PM
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#31 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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like others have said...shift @ a lower RPM for 1st ->2nd.
I usually shift out of 1st as quickly as possible
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10-13-2009, 03:42 PM
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wtf???????
of course u need to step the clutch pedal all the way in for shifting, even past the friction point, otherwise its bad for the car. Also dont touch the shift knob unless ur shifting... let it vibrate freely
to op: its normal and happened to me, very very soon u will shift much faster and the problem will go away
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10-13-2009, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by vsvs Also dont touch the shift knob unless ur shifting... let it vibrate freely | I know and seen some people that always do this. So does it wear down the lever or something? I admit i sometimes do that but only when I'm coasting in 2nd or something while timing the light. Other than that my shifting hand is either on the wheel or resting on my parking brake.
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10-13-2009, 04:36 PM
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I have the opposite usually,
I usually shift into 2nd around 2000-2500rpm
I will be following a auto car from a stop giving a good amount of space in first. As soon as I get into second my car accelerates a lot faster in that gear and I sometimes get very close to who's in front of me when if not paying attention ..
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10-13-2009, 05:01 PM
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just flatfoot and power shift every gear. smash the clutch pedel in as fast as you can, and slam the shifter into each gear as fast as you can. good times will be had by all. /win
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10-13-2009, 06:47 PM
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(not matting the clutch) Quote:
Originally Posted by TOS'd ^ does that really work? im scared to try cause i dont want to mess up my transmission. | Yes, it probably works-depends on the car and how close the point of clutch engagement is to the end of the pedal movement. Quote:
Originally Posted by vsvs wtf???????
of course u need to step the clutch pedal all the way in for shifting, even past the friction point, otherwise its bad for the car. | It's best to floor the clutch when shifting, but on most cars you don't need to. The clutch needs to be pressed down far enough that the clutch is completely disengaged from the flywheel. This is usually just past the friction point and before the end of the pedal's travel.
There are aftermarket clutch stops available for some cars. Quote: |
i heard you could shift without clutch
| It can be done, but it's not really worth the effort or potential mechanical damage to do so.
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10-13-2009, 07:28 PM
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#37 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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don't worry about the ppl behind you, its like that when u drive a manual, u'll get use to it. or if your car has alot of power, u can just start on 2nd gear.
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10-13-2009, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stotch When I arrive at the light I usually let my car roll back enough that the guy coming up gets startled and gives me tons of space, seems to do the job. | This is what I do...it works
And what's wrong with resting your hand on the shift knob? Assuming you don't move it around
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10-14-2009, 07:13 PM
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10-14-2009, 07:25 PM
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hm i never thought about getting out of first gear at 2000-2500, i've always done 3k shifts for all my gears.
someone mentioned that you do ride the clutch when starting out from dead stop, it may be riding the clutch but i'm sure it's designed to take it to some extent.
how do you guys take your right turns?
signal, slow down, neutral, make the turn, slip the clutch into 2nd and let it revmatch automatically?
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10-14-2009, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by illicitstylz how do you guys take your right turns?
signal, slow down, neutral, make the turn, slip the clutch into 2nd and let it revmatch automatically? | I revmatch downshift until i'm in 3rd or 2nd, brake, then turn. If I am doing it your way, I'd try to match the revs before putting it back in gear.
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10-14-2009, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by d1 I revmatch downshift until i'm in 3rd or 2nd, brake, then turn. If I am doing it your way, I'd try to match the revs before putting it back in gear. | i know i should be revmatching..
but my pedals aren't designed to be heel-toed
and it all happens too fast for me to go neutral, revmatch, put it into 2nd while making the turn .. or maybe it' s just me and i need more practice lol
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10-14-2009, 08:54 PM
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^why dont you
downshift and brake then turn and accel out of corner?
you're supposed to brake before the turn ( seems like u're braking in the corner?? )
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10-14-2009, 09:19 PM
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im pretty new to manual too.
the way i do a right turn is say im in 3rd, i signal, slow down a bit, revmatch (attempt to), pop it into 2nd, approach corner, slow down and make sure its safe, then i accel and turn.
and if i ever have to wait at the right turn id just put it in 1st and do what you normally would do when starting from a stop.
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10-14-2009, 09:56 PM
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Happens to me and i've been driving manual for a little while. I'm just a lazy shit and I take my time shifting from 1st to 2nd, people behind me can suck it up... That and my tranny mounts are shot
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10-14-2009, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by moomooCow ^why dont you
downshift and brake then turn and accel out of corner?
you're supposed to brake before the turn ( seems like u're braking in the corner?? ) | oh no sorry here's the clarification
60km/h, signal right, brake down to ~30, shift into neutral, coast into the turn, once i pass the apex i slip into 2nd gear and let it revmatch automatically.
i find that if i downshift to 2nd BEFORE i take the turn, i'm moving too slow but i guess it's better for my transmission and clutch.
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10-14-2009, 10:39 PM
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Pfft... you guys need motors that make torque sooner. I can't remember the last time I had to bother revving up to 3,000 rpm in my daily driver. I shift at like.. 1,500...
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10-14-2009, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by illicitstylz oh no sorry here's the clarification
60km/h, signal right, brake down to ~30, shift into neutral, coast into the turn, once i pass the apex i slip into 2nd gear and let it revmatch automatically. | Don't do this. Your car should always be in gear except at a dead stop. There might be some cases which you will want or need to exit the corner in a hurry. Incidentally, coasting in neutral is illegal as you don't have full control of your car. Finally, your technique could (could, not will) lead to ... adventures ... in low traction conditions.
Basic technique:
50kph  . Signal, brake to cornering speed, shift down to second and let out the clutch fairly slowly. Both brake and clutch should be fully out/released before turn-in. Turn in and apply throttle as you exit the corner.
As you get comfortable with this, you can try stuff like heel-toe, but leave that for later.
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10-14-2009, 11:48 PM
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^ +1
Don't coast in neutral. What speed do you usually turn at? I usually turn in second and sometimes if it's a wide open turn and I see that everything's clear, I'll turn in third.
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10-14-2009, 11:57 PM
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