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Old 11-18-2009, 03:33 AM   #51
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The machine is now running, but we all haven't been destroyed yet. I was told death was coming. Explain.
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has anyone ever thought that maybe they collided the particles, but nothing happened, so they just told everyone that they're doing maintenance (since countries invested 100's of trillions) while theyre actually revising the design?
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i think it's safe to assume that scientists want to live as much as we do. if they knew we all had a high chance of dying due to some mini black hole, then would you think they persists this research? they would want to live as much as we do to learn and understand the result of the proton proton collision... they wouldnt want to die and learn nothing from it...

there have been theoretical physicists working and proving theories on why this won't happen or very highly unlikely won't happen.

we all will benefit from this. not only in a sense that higgs boson complete the standard model of physics, but what new data and techniques can we extract from this that will be a leap forward in our society.

sort of what quantum mechanics did for us and etc etc.
you are not understanding the point... I KNOW there isn't a high chance of us dying.. I KNOW that there is actually a REALLY REALLY LOW chance that nothing will happen. But, the fact is, there is still a chance.
The probably of something bad happening is probably 1 in a billion, trillion.

Frankly, those odds are not good enough when it comes to my life.

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has anyone ever thought that maybe they collided the particles, but nothing happened, so they just told everyone that they're doing maintenance (since countries invested 100's of trillions) while theyre actually revising the design?
umm. the LHC was about $4.6 billion...

and your post doesn't make sense... the whole point of the LHC is to collide protons at near light speeds...

if they managed to collide the protons the experiment was a success?

if nothing happened when they collided the particles that is still a result that they would have to report.
if something amazing happened. ie. finding the higgs they would report it..

either way, they will report it.. if they don't find anything that is just as important as finding something... Scientific Method. It's pretty simple. And all real scientist abide by it.
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The machine is now running, but we all haven't been destroyed yet. I was told death was coming. Explain.
you're an idiot.

1. death is coming. you cannot escape death
2. in theory, there is a chance that a black hole could form and we could all get trapped in the black hole. (black holes do not suck btw)

So what more does anyone need to explain?
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you're an idiot.

1. death is coming. you cannot escape death
2. in theory, there is a chance that a black hole could form and we could all get trapped in the black hole. (black holes do not suck btw)

So what more does anyone need to explain?
1. If I'm an idiot because the world hasn't ended yet, then I hope I keep on being an idiot for the rest of my life, sir.

2. Well, a black hole hasn't formed yet, so we haven't been trapped in one. In theory, it's possible that a black hole won't form and we will all be spared the horrible death of being stuck like flies on fly paper.

Could you explain to me the likelyhood of a black hole actually forming, and where you got that data from. Or are you just pulling that info out of your ass and hoping that an idiot like me will just accept it at face value?
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you are not understanding the point... I KNOW there isn't a high chance of us dying.. I KNOW that there is actually a REALLY REALLY LOW chance that nothing will happen. But, the fact is, there is still a chance.
The probably of something bad happening is probably 1 in a billion, trillion.

Frankly, those odds are not good enough when it comes to my life.
Do you live in a bubble? Odds are better than that you'll drop a lung on the shitter and bleed out cold with your pants down. Do you still poop? Driving anywhere must be hell on your nerves.
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umm. the LHC was about $4.6 billion...

and your post doesn't make sense... the whole point of the LHC is to collide protons at near light speeds...

if they managed to collide the protons the experiment was a success?

if nothing happened when they collided the particles that is still a result that they would have to report.
if something amazing happened. ie. finding the higgs they would report it..

either way, they will report it.. if they don't find anything that is just as important as finding something... Scientific Method. It's pretty simple. And all real scientist abide by it.
Yeah cause like.... The Financial bankers really wanna know that they invested a whole bunch of money into a big machine that doesn't work.

What the fuck are those Teen Pastors feeding you kids now?
The last time I went 5 years ago, they told me that Evolution was all a LIE, and that GOD put everything there for us to find.
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Yeah cause like.... The Financial bankers really wanna know that they invested a whole bunch of money into a big machine that doesn't work.

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blah blah blah, everything has some weird conspiracy theory behind it.

fuck off. you guys watch way too many sci fi movies. You think these average-joe-scientists constructed an experiment with billions worth of investment without due diligence?

Just think of all the research you do for a nerdy ass gadget you are planning to purchase...

morons. world's going to end, blah blah blah. Go suck a nut and live your life.
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1. If I'm an idiot because the world hasn't ended yet, then I hope I keep on being an idiot for the rest of my life, sir.

2. Well, a black hole hasn't formed yet, so we haven't been trapped in one. In theory, it's possible that a black hole won't form and we will all be spared the horrible death of being stuck like flies on fly paper.

Could you explain to me the likelyhood of a black hole actually forming, and where you got that data from. Or are you just pulling that info out of your ass and hoping that an idiot like me will just accept it at face value?
"Black holes are usually conceived as being the remnant of a massive star that has used up its nuclear fuel, and crushed itself under its own weight. Its gravitational pull at its surface then becomes so great nothing can escape, not even light. It becomes literally a “hole” in the fabric of space-time, and anything that enters can never escape.

In theory, however, a black hole can be of any size, not just very large ones. Any amount of matter, if crushed in upon itself, can theoretically form a black-hole, albeit a very small one if only a small amount of matter is crushed. Some theories suggested that miniature black holes might have been formed in the earliest history of the Universe. Other theories suggest that particle colliders, by crushing two atoms together at tremendous speed, might create a miniature black hole of very tiny dimension. Stephen Hawking in the early 1970s theorized that such miniature black holes were once in great abundance, but later “evaporated” by a quantum tunneling process, so that such miniature black holes no longer exist in our Universe. This process, first theorized by Stephen Hawking, would possibly cause a black hole to evaporate. "


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To sum it up.. if you collide two particles together at high speeds.. ie. near light speeds a black hole can form..
Is that ^^ enough support for you? or would you like to come down to UBC and talk to my astro prof?

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Yeah cause like.... The Financial bankers really wanna know that they invested a whole bunch of money into a big machine that doesn't work.

What the fuck are those Teen Pastors feeding you kids now?
The last time I went 5 years ago, they told me that Evolution was all a LIE, and that GOD put everything there for us to find.
Are you for real? What are you arguing here?
Do you even know what the machine/experiment is supposed to do?
It is supposed to collide particles together at NEAR LIGHT SPEEDS.

if nothing happens when the particels collide- wtf are the financial backers supposed to do? cook the books and make believe that they found the higgs? Seriosuly?

The fact is, if the LHC can collide TWO particles together... IT IS A SUCCESS. END OF STORY. The Large Hadron Collider is supposed to collide things? and if it does that.. how does it not work? the result is independent of the LHC working. Just because the LHC works, doesn't mean they'll find shit.
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Do you live in a bubble? Odds are better than that you'll drop a lung on the shitter and bleed out cold with your pants down. Do you still poop? Driving anywhere must be hell on your nerves.
what are you arguing here????

the fact still remains.. it is possible. that is all that i am saying. like i mentioned before... the odds are LOW. Very LOW.. But, I already said that like 1000000 times...
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