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11-19-2009, 04:12 PM
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#26 | | MoD
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the 8.95 fee is the old SAF
the current one that is about to expire is 6.95 +911 fee ($.75) which will equal to $7.70
If you signed a contract with the $8.95 then you would have stuck with the price even when the $7.70 was introduced.
Bell is gettting rid of the fee as the customers are all dumb.
all complaining that the fees are retarded and rather go to Rogers or Telus
little to do they know that Rogers and Telus just raised the prices in stead.
Due to losing the mass amount of miss informed customers, Bell has taken the fees off.
Since November Bell has offered reduced SAF on all post paid price plans. Instead of raising the price plans.
Bell has tried to get rid of the SAF awhile ago.
Some of you may have the plans. The All In One plans were introduced. However, the customers then all were asking why the plans were so expensive compared the competitors.
Thus forcing Bell to go back to the SAF.
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11-19-2009, 04:14 PM
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#27 | | Say! Say! Say!
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Damn, so I'm still paying 50 bucks a month. Sucks.
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11-19-2009, 04:30 PM
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#28 | | MoD
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If you already have a price plan with Bell, your exisiting SAF will stay active. Your price plan will not be inpacted.
Only new activations will have the SAF waived.
The reason behind this is the old price plans are cheaper than the new price plans.
New customers will get the SAF waived, but have increased prices on plans.
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11-19-2009, 08:11 PM
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#29 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Originally Posted by k2_alpha Bell has tried to get rid of the SAF awhile ago.
Some of you may have the plans. The All In One plans were introduced. However, the customers then all were asking why the plans were so expensive compared the competitors.
Thus forcing Bell to go back to the SAF. | Most customers are @#%*!! ignant.  I know someone who tried to get an iPhone with a contract renewal with Rogers a couple of months back and got sold an OLDER (ie 2006 or something?) slider HTC with QWERTY keyboard + 3yr contract instead. And they were all happy because they thought they got the latest iPhone! 
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11-19-2009, 08:15 PM
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#30 | | Banned (BBM)
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11-19-2009, 09:28 PM
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#31 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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it's the same shit as rogers then. they remove SAF but jack up the plan prices and you end up paying the same thing.
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11-19-2009, 10:33 PM
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#32 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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^^ Buddy who works at Bell just confirmed. Yep, SAF is disappearing tomorrow. However, plan rates are getting cranked. I don't know by how much though.
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11-19-2009, 10:53 PM
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#33 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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by enough just to make up for the SAF ~ so in the end you save maybe 1 or 2bux
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11-19-2009, 11:06 PM
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#34 | | Banned (BBM)
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Hmm... can they still charge SAF to new customers after tomorrow? Like, my dad's company is offering a corporate plan with bell and its a really good deal, but it says SAF and 911 is included and the offer expires 12/31/09. So.... think they will take that SAF off?
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11-20-2009, 12:07 AM
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#35 | | No Duplicate Accounts Allowed
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all old rate plans will still have the saf/911. all new rate plans will not have it but you'll notice the new rate plans will be about $5 more.
ex. old plan for $25 + saf/911 = $32.70 + tax
new plan $30 = $30 + tax
the new plans are not going to be that great with the saf/911 excluded depending on what you currently have right now so you better compare your existing plan + features with what it will cost you tomorrow.
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11-20-2009, 08:27 AM
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#36 | | Banned (BBM)
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Hmm.. I guess todays the day eh? I wonder when they will announce the new plans + no saf...
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11-20-2009, 10:58 AM
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#37 | | Banned (BBM)
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Here it is people!
Bell officially drops System Acceess Fees and 911 fees
By Ian Hardy ⋅ November 20, 2009 ⋅ Post a comment
For those who are Bell, or want to be on Bell the good news is that they have dropped the monthly $6.95 System Access Fees and the $0.75 Carrier 911 Fees. There will be no formal announcement but you’ll notice on the Bell site that the fees are removed from the plans.
The dropped fees are only good for new, upgrading or migrating clients. For those who are current customers and want their fees dropped you’ll have to switch over to a new plan in which Bell has also changed to be more competitive (they’ve also now included call forwarding) and from what we can tell have been increased by $5.
We’re finding more about this and will report back shortly.
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11-20-2009, 11:23 AM
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#38 | | Chinese Guy, Swedish Rides
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More: Quote: UPDATE: We finally got more info on the dropped fees:
According to the internal doc (Thanks Informer!) here are the details:
“Effective November 20, 2009, Bell is simplifying billing and saving money for our clients by eliminating SAF and carrier 911 fees from the following price plan groups:
• Consumer Share price plans
• Small Business Share price plan
• Consumer U760 Turbo Stick Flex Plan
• Turbo Stick Card price plans
• Corporate price plans
• Smartphone Combo price plans
• Smartphone Combo Share price plans
• Modem price plans
o Tracking
o Vertical data
• Combo price plans for iPhone – shared and single user
• Uber price plans and Atlantic Uber price plans
• Value $25 price plan
• North America price plan
• Fab 10 Student Plans Exclusive to Dalhousie University
• BlackBerry BIS data only PPs
• PDA data only PPs
• PDA data only shareable PPs
• BlackBerry BIS data only shareable PPs
• BlackBerry BES PPs
• BlackBerry BES Shareable PPs
As a result, clients activating on these plans will now only see one monthly charge on their bill – the cost of their price plan – instead of 3 individual charges.
Changes to plans include:
• SAF and carrier 911 fees being removed (a savings of $7.70).
• Call Forwarding being included on Consumer and Small Business plans (a $3 value)
• The monthly fee increasing by $5 to $10 depending on the price plan
• Provincial government imposed 911 fees will still apply
In addition, there is a $5 price increase on 2 BlackBerry BIS and PDA smartphone SOCs.
Impacts to existing clients:
• SAF and carrier 911 fees are not being waived for existing clients on their current price plan. However, existing clients can migrate to an in-market “no SAF or 911” price plan with no restrictions (i.e. no contract renewal required; no migration fee). Advise migrating clients that they will forfeit the benefits and features of their existing price plan.
• As always, if a client calls in and requests a rate plan review, continue to apply your better value migration tactics.
• Clients migrating to the new plans will be charged the $2 paper bill fee unless they register for ebill and suppress their paper bill.
• Existing clients will continue to be able to renew on their current plan as it exists.
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11-20-2009, 12:05 PM
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#39 | | Banned (BBM)
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So I guess the fees arn't taken off of all the plans :S
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11-20-2009, 12:15 PM
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#40 | | No Duplicate Accounts Allowed
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Originally Posted by TT So I guess the fees arn't taken off of all the plans :S | they're not taken off any plans. your old plans remain the same with the same saf/911.
the new plans dont have it. not sure why people cant comprehend that.
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11-20-2009, 04:19 PM
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#41 | | Banned (BBM)
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^What I meant was that they arn't taken off of all the new plans. Since kardboard's post names the specific ones they are taking off?
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11-20-2009, 09:56 PM
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#42 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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who cares if they are taken off or not? you are still paying for it one way or another ~ no SAF but the phone plan cost a bit more.. what's the difference? I'm not paying SAF!!! but my plan cost more than urs?
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11-20-2009, 11:48 PM
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#43 | | Banned (BBM)
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^I was offered corporate plan 20.00 but it says SAF will be included for 7.70. So do I need to pay 7.70? Or do I just pay my corporate plan 20 and not pay extra?
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11-21-2009, 02:11 AM
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#44 | | No Duplicate Accounts Allowed
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Originally Posted by TT ^I was offered corporate plan 20.00 but it says SAF will be included for 7.70. So do I need to pay 7.70? Or do I just pay my corporate plan 20 and not pay extra? | best bet is to call them back and ask specifically "what is my total cost after taxes and everything." some reps only mention the price of the plan and not the extras so you end up paying $50 when all they said was your plan is $20.
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11-21-2009, 04:18 AM
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#45 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Corporate plans for a company are negotiated between the company and Bell, so you will not see ANY changes, even if you are a new customer. Typically these plans are renegotiated annually.
Because of this, there's no real reason to hold off on a corporate plan (ie waiting for SAF to drop) because if you won't be locking any old rates in, even with a contract. When they renegotiate a new rate (whether higher or lower), everyone under the plan changes together, contract or not.
I confirmed this with Bell today. I'm on corporate and the SAF is still there for me.
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11-21-2009, 05:07 AM
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#46 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Drop SAF, jack up phone plan price, really no difference in the end to me.
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11-21-2009, 11:27 AM
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#47 | | MoD
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in the end you save roughly $2.70
old plans are $5 cheaper but with a $7.70 SAF.
do the math.
This is true for MOST rate plans, not all.
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12-02-2009, 10:27 PM
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Anyone here work for Bell? I am trying to activate a 3 - year voice plan WITH NO DATA and I want to buy the iPhone, but the rep said that you can only buy the iPhone ONLY if you sign up for a contract with DATA plan.... Now on the website it says this:
"Apple iPhone 3GS - $199.95
On a 3 year term when activating a min voice and data plan combination or combo plan requirements of $50 or greater. Bell reserves the right to limit the usage. Out of bundle rates may apply. For new activations. Offer ends November 26th, 2009 "
So now that its December 2nd, would I be able to just purchase the iPhone with just a voice plan? I know that at Fido, Rogers, and Telus, you can purchase the phone regardless what plan you have....But I guess its different at Bell? Someone school me on this!
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12-02-2009, 10:34 PM
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#49 | | No Duplicate Accounts Allowed
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^^ you can buy the iPhone without getting a data plan. ........you just have to pay for the iPhone at FULL REGULAR PRICE and no contract attached.
you've been schooled.
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12-02-2009, 11:39 PM
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#50 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Originally Posted by TT Anyone here work for Bell? I am trying to activate a 3 - year voice plan WITH NO DATA and I want to buy the iPhone, but the rep said that you can only buy the iPhone ONLY if you sign up for a contract with DATA plan.... Now on the website it says this:
"Apple iPhone 3GS - $199.95
On a 3 year term when activating a min voice and data plan combination or combo plan requirements of $50 or greater. Bell reserves the right to limit the usage. Out of bundle rates may apply. For new activations. Offer ends November 26th, 2009 "
So now that its December 2nd, would I be able to just purchase the iPhone with just a voice plan? I know that at Fido, Rogers, and Telus, you can purchase the phone regardless what plan you have....But I guess its different at Bell? Someone school me on this! | Sorry dood, you're SOL. I have a close friend at Bell and even he could not hook me up. That's why I have a LG Xenon right now instead of an iPhone. The only loophole there is is that you can buy data then cancel after one year, but that's $45 x 12 = $540 + tax. Might as well just buy out the phone or pick one up from Craigslist.
If you're really desperate for an iPhone, just buy an old 3G and jailbreak + unlock it. Sure your phone won't be brand new but it's the most cost-effective solution.
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