see how the CGY/GTA launch goes, so far im hearing very good things, we will not kno till later.

The network infrastructure is very similar to the T-Mobile Network down in the US

Don't know who the heck Kartboard is, but that's exactly what it means and it's true.

Long and short of it is: The only phones that will work on WIND Mobile right now are T-Mobile USA 3G phones. No other phones in the WORLD will work on it. Yet.

In other words, no iPhone.

just buy the n900 and everything is solved

Does that only apply for smartphones? Or does reg basic phones work with them voice network. Cuz I think someone said their voice is piggy back from rogers
Posted via RS Mobile

voice is backed by rogers/fido

so if i buy a wind Blackberry bold, will i be able to use it on fido or overseas in asia/europe? and if we're roaming on rogers/fido network, will there be roaming charges? Next up on the to do list for these carriers is no roaming charges anywhere in canada/northamerica!

the wind 9700 will not run 3g on fido/rogers. im not sure for overseas as i think it has 2100mhz, which is the standard for euro/apac

the plans are quite interesting, dont think i'll switch over anytime soon tho

the plans are way too extreme
either $15 for very little minutes , or $35/45 for practically unlimited
and $35 for unlimited data.

I'm sure a lot of people will switch over for the unlimited plans, but as for now, they don't have anything to cater towards the intermediate users like me who need more than 50 minutes, but dont come anything close to unlimited minutes

They will come out with more plans as the company moves forward.

i think ill go sign up for rogers instead. the wind zones look ghetto right now

any word on when will they launch in vancouver ? I cant wait til they are here...

It's not roaming on Rogers, it's piggybacking on it. Still "on" WIND.

I still can't believe that they didn't use a 2100 MHz network. Right now, even though they have no contracts, you have to buy a phone from them. And it has to be a crappy Blackberry if you want a smartphone. No Android, no WinMo (except the hideously clunky Dash), not even iPhone. Because there is only one other network on the planet that uses the same frequency. And I assume that their phones are probably locked anyway.

If they had used 2100 MHz, people would be able to grab a phone off ebay, import one from HK or Europe or whatever, and start using Wind right away. They could get an HTC HD2 if they wanted, or a Samsung Omnia II. Or even an unlocked iPhone. It would allow them to get tons more subscribers on their 3G network.

Sometimes, companies do things that are so fucking stupid, that you wonder how the people who run them are even able to sustain life.

Or maybe it's because you have no idea how the market place looks like in North America.

The fact that you think people will buy unlocked HTC HD2's, Samsung Omnia's, or hell even Windows Mobile phones in general is proof of that. Rogers has probably sold more BlackBerry Bold's than all their WinMo phones put together. WinMo phones sell like shit. Releasing crap like the Xperia and having an ugly ass, outdated OS that needs to be covered up with a custom UI like TouchFlo doesn't help its case.

I do agree that they NEED to have an iPhone and one or two Android phones though.

You should read what you just said.

The point was that no one gives a shit if it doesn't run on 2100 mhz.

You do realize the spectrum that the Canadian government was auctioning off last year was a AWS 1700 Mhz frequency, not AWS 2100 Mhz frequency, right?

They can't just build networks according to what they please, y'know.

I was just about to add that to my edit.

Don't bother telling him that his opinion is wrong though. He got failed 20 times in a thread and then he removed them and deleted the posts :lol

No, I didn't know that companies were forced to use proprietary frequencies. It still makes no sense, and it still fucks over the consumers. Thanks for pointing that out to me, and not being a fucking idiot like the other moron that replied.

the fact is they might have great plans to some, but to be forced to use their phones is a shit deal, although 450 for a 9700 sounds great, it'll only work with them and who knows what their network quality will be, what their customer service will be, how long they'll last, even though they got a shit load of money, most people can probably get more out of their carrier's retention rather than going to wind as a brand new customer

Maybe he doesn't know because he's not IN North America.

:p

Tee hee.

It's just funny how he took all the valid points I made, ignored the one mistake I made, and focused on Windows Mobile phones. That's definitely palm-worthy :facepalm:

I like Palm.

Also, who think's the Nokia N900 will be going to WIND? The frequencies are right. :eek:

we live in North America....our cellular technologies are "innovative" yet "incompatible" with the rest of the world.

regardless. Wind's pricing is excellent in terms of how much is available for use, but the end user saves a small amount over 3 years (3yrs is the bar set to finalize numbers)

im too lazy to type out all the math i did today while discussing this subject at work today

at the moment, the $50 smartphone plan is very decent for blackberries.

$50 gives you

100+100 bonus min
unlimited E/W from 6pm(early evenings bonus for DEC only)
option for
1. unlimited SMS
2. MY5 Canada
3. Network Calling
4. double day time(total 400min voice)

500mb of data(upgrade to 1gb for 5bux more)

throw in the $20dollar VM/CID and ur at 73bux, 7 cheaper than the proposed idea thru WIND

anyways, the main point is, savings will not be seen until you spend 2yrs on the plan.

BTW iPhone only just recently passed Microsoft in October 2009:

http://assets.fiercemarkets.com/file...es/chart_2.jpg

Everyone should keep that in mind next time they want to talk about Windows Mobile's place in the North American marketplace. ;)