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Old 12-18-2009, 01:32 PM   #1
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Unhappy O Noes Saabs DEAD?!?!

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/18/b...-th/#continued

i was expecting koeniegseggseggseggsegg or Spyker to get them, the new 9-5 looked promising too
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:35 PM   #2
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sad, but with Saab's asking price, most people would just get the Big German 3
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RIP. 9-3 Viggen was so hot.

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If they get them, then what? Saab has been reskinning Opel for the last decades.. all they have is the brand and designers (last can be hired away, if not already).. the first one can be bought cheaper with no union problems with they wind it down.

As for Viggen it is a nice looking car, but with really horrible torque steer.

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i was expecting koeniegseggseggseggsegg or Spyker to get them, the new 9-5 looked promising too
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oh, that sucks. i was really hoping koenigsegg would buy them.
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Man, that sucks saab always have a unique style to them. Sad to see them go
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:02 PM   #9
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Damn, another one bites the dust.

Let's face it though, I'm sure a lot of the finished designs and cars are just going to be sold anyways, but as Opel or Chevrolet instead. It's just eliminating redundancy. Gotta do what you gotta do to survive.
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agreed. a company i will miss. and yeah, being owned by GM, their prices were very high
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shoulda changed their cars more than once every 10 fucking years. stay current or risk dying out. guess they chose the latter
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on another point, was just on CL. there's 2 Saab 9-2x (wrx) for 11-12k... for an 05. That's a pretty good deal
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Damn...I always liked Saabs
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i think saab is one of those brands that everyone kinda liked but didnt pay enough attention too...now everyones gonna miss it when its gone...

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shitty, i liked them too
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Old 12-19-2009, 06:58 PM   #17
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the thing is even though we liked these cars its unlikely that any of would consider buying them down the road

edit* however, the 9-3 is pretty damn hot
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who gives a shit. ive never owned one or driven one. only white people drive saabs
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Honestly people don't want to buy FWD based premium cars. Acura please take note.

Saab has been borrowing other people's platform for way too long.. no one will miss them.

They might look good, but their driving dynamics sucks.
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Might not want to tell that to Beijing automotive who bought the tooling for 9-5

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another saab saab story? =P

its tough when the economy takes a downturn.
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SPYKER CARS RENEWS OFFER FOR SAAB THAT REMOVES LAST HURDLES

ZEEWOLDE, The Netherlands (20 December, 2009) – Following the announcement on Friday that the intended sales terms of Saab Automobile AB between Spyker and General Motors (GM) could not be finalized, the Spyker leadership has submitted a renewed offer in the hopes of securing a future for Saab, its employees and the brand – despite the announcement that the winding down of Saab would begin.

Spyker CEO Victor R. Muller said today that an 11-point proposal had been submitted to GM, addressing each of the issues that arose during the due diligence process and that the renewed offer would remove each of the obstacles that were standing in the way of a swift transaction.

"We have made every effort to resolve the issues that were preventing the conclusion of this matter and we have asked GM and all other involved parties to seriously consider this offer," said Muller.
"We are very confident that our renewed offer will remove the impasse that was standing in the way of an agreement on Friday, and this would still allow us to conclude the deal prior to the expiry of the deadline originally set by GM of December 31st", said Muller.

"Despite our collective eleventh hour set-back, we are returning to the table with a renewed offer, that addresses every known issue brought to light during the initial negotiations and that has the full backing of the Saab Management. The new offer eliminates the need for an EIB loan approval prior to year end, for example, which will allow the deal to be concluded within GM's deadline. Our efforts are based on our passion for saving an iconic brand that we would be honoured to shepherd, and the jobs and livelihoods of thousands of loyal Saab employees, suppliers and dealers around the world. Some 1,500,000 Saabs are on the road today and their proud owners would no doubt welcome the survival of this phenomenal brand", he added.

In Spyker's view, the ownership of Saab by Spyker Cars would add a lot of value to both parties. For Spyker, Saab would bring a strong, global distribution network consisting of no less than 1100 dealers, state-of-the-art production facilities, a truly dedicated work force and solid engineering, sourcing and research & development capabilities. Likewise, Saab would receive the financial backing required to compete as a competitive global brand, along with an entrepreneurial leadership team sensitive to the uniqueness, heritage and individuality of the Saab brand. Throughout these negotiations, both Spyker and Saab leadership have proven that they share a mutual vision for just such a partnership.

"Our company motto is nulla tenaci invia est via - for the tenacious no road is impassable," said Muller, "And we intend to remain true to that throughout these negotiations as we bid to secure Saab's future and revive the company."

The renewed Spyker offer is valid until 5pm (Eastern Standard Time) on Monday December 21, 2009.
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