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Old 01-04-2010, 04:53 PM   #51
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I'm fine with having my body scanned at the airport, or that of my wife's.

It's not like we're planning on smuggling contraband or explosives in the near future or ever so I'm not one of those who would be bothered or inconvenienced by this that much.
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:03 PM   #52
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Fail. Jailbait is gonna be the huge problem with this... I'd be choked if there was some creepy/unknown dude looking at my daughter naked..
What if they have rules such as only females can check the females and etc.?With certain rules and assurances, I'm sure people will be fine with it.
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we might as well all be handcuffed on the plane, there's always more and more security measures
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Not to sound rasist or anything but its time to start to
Target certain nationalitys. Ya this day and age your not supposed
To be saying things like that but truthfully its the people
From the middle east and muslims that are causeing this scare
Put them through extra searches for now until they find
A better way to deal with are safety.
And about the scan I honetly don't care, sure scan me I have
Nothing to hide, if it prevents someone on the plane from
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I remember stopping by LAX from Fiji to back home and the TSA pulled me and my family aside for 'enhanced security screening'. I challenged the TSA how come we got pulled aside? He replied 'random search'. For 6 people with the same surname; a 'random search'? He replied yes. Then he told me to file a complaint with the airlines so I went to the ticket-guy to inquire and he gave me some 1800 number to phone up. I never inquired about it but to answer your question yes they do.
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:15 PM   #55
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we might as well all be handcuffed on the plane, there's always more and more security measures
thats what i was saying it will come to evenually, hands bound to the seat

or like those space movies where you go to sleep for the duration of the flight lol
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:11 PM   #56
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yeah i know, travelling is becoming a pain in the ass
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i agree with the safety > privacy statement and the best possible solution in this thread is to have males scan males and females scan females. i would be totally fine with that.
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:08 PM   #58
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i agree with the safety > privacy statement and the best possible solution in this thread is to have males scan males and females scan females. i would be totally fine with that.
so you're saying you would rather have a guy look at your dick ?
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^ it's just like how bouncers aren't allowed to pat down girls
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some will always slip through and that will happen with anyone. But we are better off to racially profile the group which will/has caused the terrorist attacks. Everyone does it face the facts. I'm not a rasist at all but in certian aspects like this you have to be its in human nature.
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:46 PM   #61
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some will always slip through and that will happen with anyone. But we are better off to racially profile the group which will/has caused the terrorist attacks. Everyone does it face the facts. I'm not a rasist at all but in certian aspects like this you have to be its in human nature.
You mean "racist" not "rasist" and the problem with racial profiling is exactly that, the couple that might slip by might be the ones that cause the most damage. That been said, racial profiling has been going on since 9/11 and some might argue that it's prevented terrorist attacks but others will argue it hasn't.

My personal view is that we're dealing with a enemy that can't be defeated because you can't defeat a religion.
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You mean "racist" not "rasist" and the problem with racial profiling is exactly that, the couple that might slip by might be the ones that cause the most damage. That been said, racial profiling has been going on since 9/11 and some might argue that it's prevented terrorist attacks but others will argue it hasn't.

My personal view is that we're dealing with a enemy that can't be defeated because you can't defeat a religion.
exactly, but you still have to try to prevent it. It's horrible the society we live in these days you can't trust anyone it seems. All of these new regulations at the airport and where ever else will be hard to get used to at first but we will grow a custom to them over time like everything else in the past.

If it saves lives its worth it and thats all that really matters, and all of us will feel safer on a plane like it or not.
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I don't have a problem with it. The TSA wants to step up their game and this is a non-invasive way to do it.

Agreed

People who will/do have a problem with this have something to hide imo...
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:32 PM   #64
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I flew last summer and I don't recall being patted down. I was swiped by the metal detector wand, but that's it. Or maybe I'm mistaken.

Pat down's the best way.
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racial profile? doesn't make sense

what they should do is profile ppl who've been to those suspect countries. they already have the means in place... (the persons passport, and history in their computer)


im fine with the security tech seein me nekkid, but privacy should be a concern for women (so female security should handle that)

what i have a problem with is... (especially for frequent fliers) are all the x-rays
but i avoid stopping over in the USA and rarely visit the states so as long as its a USA issue


and you guys are confusing the terrorists with their religion... its not the religion that the USA is dealing with, The religion isn't the reason there are terrorists targeting the USA. Terrorists are targeting the USA because of 1. their family members/countrymen are getting killed by the USA 2. they're being occupied by the USA 3. the USA is supporting the killing/occupying of ppl terrorists feel akin to 4. etc

Religion is just a buffering tool for terrorists to do what they do, its not the cause of it in the vast majority of cases

people who fall into those 3 categories above, are angry/mad/filled with hate (understandably) and they've placed the blame on the USA, perhaps not understandably and ignorantly, for the cause of their emotions(everyone wants someone to blame) and they want revenge, justice, etc (whatever you want to call it) they're going to do something about it or they're on the verge of doing something about it. religion is used/warped(whatever) to justify what they want to do (to assure themselves that they aren't doing wrong)

so if you're going to target the religion you're not going to get anywhere, its targeting the wrong end of the fuse (all i can see that doing is to reaffirm their actions and gaining support for them from ppl who didn't feel attacked b4 and didn't give a shit)

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If you don't like it then don't travel by plane. I think it's pretty simple.

I don't like it, but I wouldn't have a huge issue with it because it would mean my safety is more secure.

You will always have people complaining. That is how society is. When all the gang shootings were taking place everyone was freaking out about it, and going overboard about how the streets weren't safe etc

Then those same people start getting upset about Barwatch scanning your ID.
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i would like to know too, I rarely expose my tattoos
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:19 PM   #69
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What about health concerns with being repeatedly exposed to these x-rays?
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why not bomb buses instead? much easier and its in city centers so you get to wreak more havoc
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We need racial profiling hey?

Just round them up and stick them all in internment camps like we did to the Japanese Canadians in WW2!

Everyone agrees that was a GREAT thing to do! Our finest hour by far!

Sorry, all racial profiling does is breed hate and resentment from those groups you are trying to target.
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Safety > Privacy, in this case, but not always.
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this along with the idea that no one will be able to leave their seat for the last hour of the flight makes me think this is what air travel is becoming:
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Stereotying is in our genes. We see a tiger, we run, we dun question its intentions. I dun get why ppl make it sound so bad.
Cuz we're not monkeys.

The reason profiling is so taboo is cuz the ppl who implemented it in the past were a sloppy bunch of monkeys who followed their instincts instead of looking for facts. Practical idea, poor execution.
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