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AJR group buy? Who's in? |
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I've heard that an authentic J's broke after 2 weeks after purchase for an s2k lol... |
^ OK WE GET IT... you think J's racing exhuasts suck, now stfu |
Js racing products are also over priced Posted via RS Mobile |
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haters and fanboys are all alike, everything written on here is an assumption, you can't seriously believe this and that because some guy behind a monitor thinks he knows everything about the scene. You haven't heard from either parties directly, who's to know what's the real truth. I like AJ's owner, and I acknowledge their accomplishments, but posting stupid comments and photoshopping pictures is pretty dumb imo. If this whole thing is true.. I'm super disappointed. |
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10,000 views 230+ posts epic. |
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I've been in the Honda scene for quite a while now and here are my two cents. I have seen many J's Racing products in person and online from various sources and many of the products under the same name or part number look very different from one another, and as 5Zigen pointed out earlier, the timing of everything in this case seems to be too much of a coincidence. As far as I know, one of J's mechanics from Japan stayed and worked at A&J for quite a while and something like this surely would've caught his attention as he was in charge of shipping/receiving as well as parts installation. A&J also shipped at least one car (Fit?) overseas to J's Racing for their USDM product development, and that may be the reason why there are A&J edition parts floating around on the market. Anyway, I'm not affiliated with A&J in any way and I'm just speculating like everyone else here. I'd like to know the real story behind this mess as well but I've been in the import scene long enough to know that we may never find out what really happened. I'd be pretty disappointed if A&J indeed sold counterfeit products as they've been in the tuner business long enough to know better than that. |
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Fucking fakes everywhere....... better check to see if my mom isn't fake. Wait, she's not from China. LOL. |
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My post on fitfreak.net....... .................................................. ................................................. Quote: Originally Posted by JaySmith View Post Realistically from what I can recall, it was a similar incident such as the current one with J's Racing, where A & J Racing was actually caught reproducing Spoon Sports infamous N1 exhaust and then sold them as a genuine product without the authorization from Spoon Sports. That's right. Numerous flame wars went on regarding to different stuff on honda-acura.net, honda-tech, revscene.net(vancouver local forum) etc since late 1990s. I know the guys at A&J & started dealing with them since 1997. And I used to be on honda-acura.net & honda-tech quite a lot back then. Think it started off with whether A&J or Boom Plus Toys was the legit SPOON distributor in N.America wayyyyyyyyy back then. I've seen people bashing A&J on different SPOON/Endless/Buddy Club products that they carried/carry, bashing Honda NA setup that they used to mainly go for, bashing the way of "building the cars for corners". But quite some of these stuff got pretty popular after years.... - spoon equipped/jdm cars all over the internet - track days/time attack - wilder & wilder NA setup now compare with NOS & turbo etc in the late 90s And then T1R exhaust items came out. Flame war went on again. Some of u guys probably read about those T1R Vs TYPE ONE Japan and if they're related kinda argument way back then(still going on & on). And I wonder if anyone here remember a header test on HT quite awhile ago. SPOON/Mugen/Jun/T1R Vs. Hytech/SMSP kinda stuff. Some of these flame wars came on when SPOON switched their distributor if I remember correctly? And then now J's..... I personally don't know whether A&J sold fake J's exhaust. Since I'm not a big fan of J's racing anyway. So I never looked at the J's item that the guys had on display. Good quality titanium are expensive to begin with, like ARC & Amuse etc. J's Ti exhaust are cheaper, but still not THAT cheap? If I wanna copy I'd probably do another Twin-Loop, a true 2.5" version coz after all everyone knows it's Mugen. At least it will cost me less to manufacture coz it's stainless steel but not Ti More average people can afford to buy this nice exhaust. When I shop for parts they're not the only guys I go for. Ben KNOWS that I'm fucking picky & shop all over the place. And he KNOWS I do squeeze him like crazy for discount sometimes. But for the SPOON/Zeal/Endless/Buddy Club/T1R/Advan/Exedy/JDM Honda/Bride/HKB product that I bought from these guys in the last 13years never failed on me. I don't have much complain about this local shop. Well, other than waiting for a Bride rail for 4months GOD DAMN it BEN! If u say the T1R/Exedy clutch is a rip off. Exchange rate changes ALL the time, the best bet is to call/email/PM them for price. I have this set of T1R/Exedy clutch for about 25000km now. Went through 3 HARSH lapping day here in BC & in WA, quite some hard launch in many autocross events & bunch of stop & go Vancouver downtown driving. Clutch still grip very well..... Anyway, sorry about my bad English. Just my 0.02..... |
the tuner world here is filled with counterfeit products, more commonly known as replica. I personally have bought expensive authentic JDM shit and also some cheaper replica stuff as well, it all depends on what your specific needs are. Most people buy replica parts, because of the cheaper price we all know this.... and I don't have a problem with any shop selling replica shit they manufactured themselves in some chinese factory, we all know the market is flooded with this stuff and almost every one of us in the tunerverse has bought a part like this at one time or another.... no problem there but what I, and every one of you should have a problem with is when that shop tries to pass these parts as "authentic" and selling it to you at the same price point. and not only that but going through great lengths to disguise the true nature of the product is fckin disgusting to me. |
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:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: totally agree. |
10,000+ views, real or not this is damaging to AJR's reputation and business. if it were my company, i would be up in arms defending myself against such HUGE accusations. |
i hope this is not ture....is not the fact i know them.. but reading all these post, make me thing the other way. they do sell fake stuff. makes me think all the DC5, when it first came to my head is. J's Racing Brake Kit if anybody recall that back in 2006 ? or 7? is that REAL? or fake? |
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I have nothing to add except: Where is AJ's response? |
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This can be refered to AJ vs J's too. |
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i reread the letter, and found something you guys might've overlooked Quote:
that, plus the fact that this was only recently posted on the guys blog lead me to believe that the "April 2009" part was the error in this letter although i could have missed something entirely |
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