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Originally Posted by BEEB (Post 6773792)

it's like Footlocker claim that Nike made a special batch of T shirts without the Nike badge. And Footlocker kept selling them until someone complaints about it and Nike found out that Footlocker is copying the T Shirts. Then, Footlockers gonna say, Nike supplied us some T shirts without The Nike Logo, without Nike Tags, No Nike packing.

I agree, except
AJR put it in a J's Racing box with J's taping

^ fking china can copy anything... all u have to do is pay a guy who has a nice scanner $5 and get the scan over to a tape company... done deal. i bet u the excess rolls of tape are being used to package fake "spoon" parts in china haha and the excuse will be "the join company, i dont noe anything, it came like this from japan!"

what i got so far from this thread is this:
-J's accuses AJ of manufacturing and distributing unauthorized copies of their products.
-AJ of course denies this.

points:

-How would a large company like J's NOT know what they are building, and for who? there must be serial #'s, Tracking #'s etc.

-Why hasn't AJ chimed into defend themselves? possibly pending the outcome of the lawsuit from J's? If they did request a special batch of products for themselves, there must be a memo or order form filled out somewhere, some kind of paper trail.

I'm afraid the future looks grim For AJ.

Sad. I bought my first Lightspeed header, tower bar, and springs from them way back in the early 90's.

Just to clarify, I think someone from AJ has replied on the FitFreak thread (post is dated 1/13/2010)

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/799051-post25.html

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Hey Everyone,

This is not something new. During 2009 summer there were posts going on in regards AJR and J's Racing already.

We have responded to previous posts and we have already told our side of the story. Anyways, for those who found this thread new and interesting, I will post our side of the story again and I will keep this simple.

Firstly, the parts we sold were supplied by J's Racing. Ever since day one when we imported the products, over 50% of the products we received did not have logos, originally packaging, catalogs or even stickers. I can speak for myself as well as AJR since I was the one who had packaged some of these products. We have been challenged by customers who had purchased these parts from us in the past saying these products were kind of sketch. There was nothing we could do if the products came to us in that condition.

Secondly, J's stated they had never made any "special edition" products like USDM versions, this was not true. There were numberous products made such as, USDM Grills, lip spoiler (GD3,FG2), GT wings (FG2)....etc. that's false info. Maybe if you got nothing to do you can run a search and you will find them.

Thirdly, there are many waranty issues, quality issues, fitment issues and missing components with the parts...............etc. JUST SEARCH on any Honda forums, you will find them. Broken or defected products never been replaced nor warranteed by the manufacturer. Those waranteed products were covered by AJR itself by paying out of it's own pocket.

Fourthly, J's Racing claimed that AJR has been selling knock off J's Racing products. Well, if the supplier supplied their products with no packaging, stickers or badgings, and denying the authenticy, what should we do??? Now this situation ended up like this.

I have been working at AJR since 2008 and I have not seen a single knock off branded product while I was doing all AJR's inventory and shipping work back at that time. I am not trying to defend the company that I work for since I can just simply pack and go without giving a damn, BUT if AJR has to be bad mouthed for no reason, I think I have to stand up for it.

Once last thing regarding to Mr. J's letter, if everything is true, AJR should have closed down and wait to get sued instead of kept up and running.

Regards,

Jason @ AJR

Kev

My thoughts:

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Firstly, the parts we sold were supplied by J's Racing. Ever since day one when we imported the products, over 50% of the products we received did not have logos, originally packaging, catalogs or even stickers. I can speak for myself as well as AJR since I was the one who had packaged some of these products. We have been challenged by customers who had purchased these parts from us in the past saying these products were kind of sketch. There was nothing we could do if the products came to us in that condition.

If one customer questions the authenticity of a product, as a retailer, wouldn't you make it a point to ensure from thereon that the products you are receiving ARE authentic? I certainly would, especially since it threatens to damage the reputation of my company.

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Thirdly, there are many waranty issues, quality issues, fitment issues and missing components with the parts...............etc. JUST SEARCH on any Honda forums, you will find them. Broken or defected products never been replaced nor warranteed by the manufacturer. Those waranteed products were covered by AJR itself by paying out of it's own pocket.

Why carry the line still? If you're paying out of pocket to warranty these products I don't see the point of carrying them. This doesn't make sense.

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Fourthly, J's Racing claimed that AJR has been selling knock off J's Racing products. Well, if the supplier supplied their products with no packaging, stickers or badgings, and denying the authenticy, what should we do???

Protect your customer? Instead of playing dumb you could have:

- Checked the packages to ensure authenticity.
- Contacted the manufacturer regarding said discrepancies
- Inform your customers of the irregularities
- STOP SELLING IT.

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I have been working at AJR since 2008 and I have not seen a single knock off branded product while I was doing all AJR's inventory and shipping work back at that time.

But you claim you don't check every package. So what value is that statement?

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Once last thing regarding to Mr. J's letter, if everything is true, AJR should have closed down and wait to get sued instead of kept up and running.

Your future is in fortune telling.

Kev

"There was nothing we could do if the products came to us in that condition."

that statement alone is full of problems. As a manager at McDonalds, if you receive a batch of buns that are ripped to shreds, there are a number of things you can do to rectify the situation and get normal buns back

same for any company, if the manufacturer sends you fucked up product, you can get it replaced.

in saying that there was nothing they could've done is halfway to admitting their guilt

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Originally Posted by Turbo E (Post 6773989)

they are done dude, especially with that new shitty location of theirs

We need Crazy Asian Guy at Best Buy to pay AJR a visit.

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Originally Posted by TOS'd (Post 6774365)

We need Crazy Asian Guy at Best Buy to pay AJR a visit.

Or...

"YOU KNOW???!!!" guy.

You know guy?
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At the hospital, if the blood comes without a box package seal, it doesn't matter if the blood looks okay, could be okay, or is okay, we throw it all out! Car parts won't be as strict, but at least they could authenticate with j's before selling! Something does seem funny with their response...
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Originally Posted by hotong (Post 6774474)

You know guy?
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http://www3.telus.net/public/dhua84/youknow.gif

^ oh lol
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^well..that was random as hell hahaha

Has AJR came out to say anything about this yet?
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Originally Posted by elkayem (Post 6774793)

Has AJR came out to say anything about this yet?
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nope

^ they have, in other forums.

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I have been working at AJR since 2008 and I have not seen a single knock off branded product while I was doing all AJR's inventory and shipping work back at that time.

because all of them are branded = T1R :thumbsup:

^
What are you even talking about? T1R itself is a fucking rip off brand already.

http://www.aj-racing.com/shop/image.php?type=D&id=354

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Originally Posted by Meister1982 (Post 6775093)

^
What are you even talking about? T1R itself is a fucking rip off brand already.

:facepalm:

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Originally Posted by joh (Post 6775151)

:facepalm:

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/j-rac...ning-seat.html

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Originally Posted by BEEB (Post 6775073)

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Originally Posted by Meister1982 (Post 6775093)

^
What are you even talking about? T1R itself is a fucking rip off brand already.

WTF are you even talking about Meister. Do you even understand BEEB's post?

LOL i think meister needs to re-read...

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Originally Posted by umpadupa (Post 6775243)

LOL i think meister needs to re-read...