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03-02-2010, 08:43 PM
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| Refugee claims from Olympics 'ridiculous': minister; 2 claims from Japan.
Maybe the 2 claims from Japan are linked to Toyota? lol. Quote:
CTV.ca News Staff
Seven people who came to Canada to watch the Vancouver Winter Olympics are now seeking refugee status, CTV News has learned, including claimants from Hungary, Russia and Japan.
Immigration Minister Jason Kenney said it was "ridiculous" that anyone from Japan could claim to be a refugee and told CTV's Power Play Tuesday that it was a sign that the system has broken down.
"Look, to get two claims from Japan? This is ridiculous. Japan is a liberal democratic country with full human rights protections," he said. "You have to wonder what kind of a system we have that encourages people from a democracy like that to be saying that they're victims of persecution and coming to Canada."
Kenney could not comment on specific cases, but said four of the claimants are from Hungary, two are from Japan and one is from Russia.
The minister said Hungary is becoming a problem for the immigration and refugee system.
"It's become our No. 1 source country for refugee claims: we're getting several hundred a month," he said.
"What's really weird is that 97 per cent of the Hungarian refugee claimants to Canada are subsequently withdrawing their refugee claims ... I haven't got an answer to why that is happening."
But Kenney suggested that it could be because refugee claimants are allowed to work in Canada, collect welfare and claim other social benefits even after they abandon their refugee claims.
"So I think people may be getting into Canada, making a claim, getting benefits or a work permit, and then for whatever reason they decide I guess that they don't have a legitimate claim and that's why they withdraw it or don't pursue it."
He said he found it difficult to believe that genuine refugees could come from Hungary, even from the country's Roma minority.
"Hungary is a member of the European Union, it's a democratic country in full compliance with human rights laws. While there are challenges for people there, there's no evidence of state persecution."
Richard Kurland, a lawyer specializing in immigration matters, said allowing failed or abandoned refugee claimants to continue collecting welfare or other benefits is "simply bizarre."
"It looks like someone propped the door open with a brick. These numbers clearly show that there's an element of abuse of Canada's generosity," he said. "Something else is going on other than a genuine refugee claim."
He said the vast majority of the Hungarian refugee claimants are from the Roma community and are primarily interested in coming to Canada for free health care, education and other social services.
If they were really facing persecution, Kurland said they could much more easily travel to another European Union country.
Visitors from Hungary do not require a visa to enter Canada and Kenney said the government would prefer to keep it that way. But he said changes to the refugee determination system are on their way.
"Part of the lesson here is that we need to fix our refugee system," he said. "I think it's a pretty obvious signal to people when they can come to Canada, make a claim, get welfare benefits, get a work permit and stay here sometimes for years … It's a backdoor to immigration, which is unfair to all the other legal immigrants waiting to come to Canada."
"This is a very serious problem and we need to address it."
It's not unusual for people attending international sporting events in Canada to make refugee claims.
A man believed to be a Romanian coach claimed refugee status during the 1988 Calgary Games, and Olympian wrestler Daniel Igali claimed asylum here after competing at the 1994 Commonwealth Games in Victoria, B.C.
http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/abc/hom...efugees_100302
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03-02-2010, 08:58 PM
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#2 | | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
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it'd be nice if the russian refugee was ovechkin.
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03-02-2010, 09:04 PM
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03-02-2010, 10:46 PM
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New Law: All refugee claimants or anyone seeking permanant resident status or canadian citizenship must live in YK or NWT for 3 years as a requirement.
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03-02-2010, 10:50 PM
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#5 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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lol its hilarious seeing fobs telling refugees to "gtfo"
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03-02-2010, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed  lol its hilarious seeing fobs telling refugees to "gtfo" | Wrong. If you come here legally you are filling the certain quota our government allows each year in immigration.
The Canadian government won't grant you amnesty if your intentions are to claim welfare and social assistance.
If you're not coming here legally GTFO. This is coming from a white guy too.
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03-02-2010, 11:12 PM
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our government also allows refugees
we give them greater consideration because refugees are usually in desperate need for aid
we as Canada have a long history of aiding refugees
its a part of what makes us Canada
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03-02-2010, 11:39 PM
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^well said.
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03-02-2010, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed our government also allows refugees
we give them greater consideration because refugees are usually in desperate need for aid
we as Canada have a long history of aiding refugees
its a part of what makes us Canada | yeah if they are legit refugees from like africa or something,
not "refugees" from countries with full human rights, and then abuse our welfare + health care with our taxpayer dollars.
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03-03-2010, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by adambomb New Law: All refugee claimants or anyone seeking permanant resident status or canadian citizenship must live in YK or NWT for 3 years as a requirement.
Make 'em feel canadian!! Brrrr... | Or build a new high speed bullet train track from Toronto to Vancouver for $7/hr.
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03-03-2010, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by adambomb New Law: All refugee claimants or anyone seeking permanant resident status or canadian citizenship must live in YK or NWT for 3 years as a requirement.
Make 'em feel canadian!! Brrrr... | Trust me I don't think they would care. For a lot of them it would better than where there from.
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03-03-2010, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Eastwood If you're not coming here legally GTFO. | Your 100% right. we sent the Jews back and we should sent everyone else back to no mater what there excuse is. 
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03-03-2010, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by adambomb New Law: All refugee claimants or anyone seeking permanant resident status or canadian citizenship must live in YK or NWT for 3 years as a requirement.
Make 'em feel canadian!! Brrrr... | Or make them stay at least 160km from the coasts for 4 years. 
I'm becoming an old curmudgeon...I don't want Vancouver getting more crowded than it already is. 
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03-03-2010, 08:52 AM
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#14 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Actually sending them to YK or NWT isn't a bad idea.
I've travelled there on 3 different occasions, the view was just breathtaking.
But due to the limit population, the service industry up there are not very convenient to be called "service". If more people were to be there to develop, I'd visit YK/NWT more often.
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03-03-2010, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed our government also allows refugees
we give them greater consideration because refugees are usually in desperate need for aid
we as Canada have a long history of aiding refugees
its a part of what makes us Canada | true, except there are refugees, and there are "refugees", and the "refugees" are abusing a great system, and taking away resources for the people actually need it.
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03-03-2010, 11:50 AM
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Not only does out refugee system need to tighten up but also immigration. Too many people come here to milk our social services and it pisses me off.
yes, yes... I know.. were all immigrants. But every memeber of MY family is a productive member of society with a well paying legitimate job, a house and pay taxes every year. Can we say the same for everyone else? No.
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03-03-2010, 12:01 PM
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Denying their claims would be a good way to collect gypsy tears.
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03-03-2010, 12:03 PM
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He said the vast majority of the Hungarian refugee claimants are from the Roma community and are primarily interested in coming to Canada for free health care, education and other social services.
| fucking gypsies giving hungary a bad name.
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03-03-2010, 07:40 PM
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#19 | | I don't get it
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor fucking gypsies giving hungary a bad name. | blame the romanians
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03-03-2010, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Your 100% right. we sent the Jews back and we should sent everyone else back to no mater what there excuse is. | If they have a legitimate claim and are granted refugee status that is a legal immigrant.
Comparing this so-called persecution of these 2 Japanese individuals to the Jews of the 1930's is hardly viable. They have nothing in common.
EDIT: This is my 666th post. Awesome.
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03-04-2010, 06:49 AM
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They can stay if they're hot chicks?
Or maybe one of those Japanese people can stay if I can take their citizenship in Japan...cool? Trade-sies?
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03-04-2010, 10:45 AM
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03-04-2010, 07:53 PM
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I can totally understand someone wanting to GTFO of Japan, depending on their lifestyle and situation
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03-04-2010, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RouRK blame the romanians | romanians =/= roma people. roma people = gypsies.
romanians = people from romania.
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