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Old 05-08-2010, 04:21 PM   #51
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so i was at the 9:20 event with niteraven... and though other participates smoked cones, i got yelled at for going fast thru the 5 series course. =/ i did not hit or touch any cones, im just very well versed in autoX'ing and car control.

other than that, it was fun, i found the turbo deisel a little laggy on pedal response.

i loved that 135 with the m package (m steering wheel)

one side note, someone finally smartened up and made a push button sunroof shade retrack and close!
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Loved the low growl of the exhaust in the 135I as I drove into the staging area.
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Even though the 135I did not have a proper manual setup, it's still basically a double clutch system(Ei Audi's DSG). What time did you go?
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just came back from it.. i gotta say, i LOVED the 550i.... 4 wheel steering was incredible going thru the cone track.. feels nice..

my fav was the 135i... the growl as it started...

took some pics.. im uploading them to my photobucket page.. 78mbs.. i deleted some.. hard to take pics while gettin tossed in the cabin..
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I was at the 8am slot today with mananetwork, saw SG waiting with the next group.

The 550 was quite fun in sport mode for such car of its size. The 335D wasn't bad, just not very exciting. The 335i was pretty damn fun, but the 135i took the cake for me. It felt nimble and quick and I had the most fun pushing it.

when we were leaving I was like "I don't even want to drive my car anymore" There were two guys that came in a modded S2000 with our group, I'm guessing they're probably on revscene too heh
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Went to the one at 1:35pm, we started at like 1:55pm which was fail and we spent like 40 minutes looking at the 550GT and X6 then we went over and drove the new 5-series, I didn't get a chance to hop in the 550i though tried 535i like 3 times LOL

The 5-series was actually pretty nice for such a big car, granted that the 550i V8 would've been even better. The 335i coupe was nice, the 135i with M-Sport Package was the highlight of the day though. M-Sport Package + DCT, perfect for tracking or doing spirited driving on. The 335d was decent, granted I'd rather take the 335i over the 335d though since I felt a bit of lag on the 335d.

Overall a REALLY fun event! I enjoyed it especially with the weather we had today..SUPERB! The guys were pretty cool at the event as well, the senior guy and the guy talking about the X6/550GT was pretty funny or at least they tried to be lol and Richard(I think?) on the 5-series portion was really cool and chill, had some talks about cars and upcoming events for BMW. Nice guy!

AND last but not least, the girls working there were HOT Even though they were covering up but still, I'd hit it I wonder if you guys took any pictures of them hahahaa
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the 5 series, regardless of generation have been the best seller for BMW world wide.
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I was at the 8am slot today with mananetwork, saw SG waiting with the next group.

The 550 was quite fun in sport mode for such car of its size. The 335D wasn't bad, just not very exciting. The 335i was pretty damn fun, but the 135i took the cake for me. It felt nimble and quick and I had the most fun pushing it.

when we were leaving I was like "I don't even want to drive my car anymore" There were two guys that came in a modded S2000 with our group, I'm guessing they're probably on revscene too heh
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just to reiterate,

the 5 series cars were all 535's

the 3 and 1 series cars were 335's, 135s, and the 335d.

the 550 was inside on display next to the x5 active hybrid. the 550 was the red one with the funky rear.
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^ one of the cars used in the 5 series run WAS a 550i. At least at the 4:30 session it was there. There were no 550i GT for testing but there was a regular 550i sedan.

#4 car IIRC. Hauled so much ass compared to the 535i.

They told me not to push that car that hard I was going a lil bit sideways in the 550 lol. I told them I thought it's the 4WS doing it. Loved the 335i loved the 135i but the electrical power steering was so numb at the slalom....I guess you get more information through the seats only and better concentration that way. The brakes are great but I don't know why do they even want us to do 2 complete ABS'd brake tests they attest to nothing to the car's performance (or I should say, one test would have been enough). The brake and avoid test at the 5 series test was more surprising as the car will nimbly do a double lane change while under full braking and ABS engaging. Very well mannered business saloon I must say.

2 6'2" white folks rode in the 535i and complained that if they sat one fore and one aft there is no legroom for the back, while in the front the guy has plenty of right leg room and then left knee right up the dash.... Which is a downfall with modern sculpted dash design?
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The new 5 series definitely felt smaller than my uncle's 1998 (2 generations old) version.

IIRC, Car #5 is the 550i. Car #4 is the 535i that does NOT have the rear wheels that turn. The rear wheels on the other 5ers turn 3deg in either direction. According to the sign, below 60km/h they turn in opposite directions (to tighten your turning radius). Above 80km/h they turn in the same direction to assist in smoother lane changes. I must say it makes turning tight corners (like the sharp L turns on the course) noticeably easier.

The 335d was surprisingly quiet for a diesel. That was impressive.

Something I noticed about ALL of the cars (ie BMWs in general) though. They all don't seem too pull too hard? I can swear my stock C230 pulls harder off the line (though obviously this shouldn't be true). I'm wondering if BMW torque converters simply slip more or something.
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i was dissappointed that they didn't have the E89 Z4 35iS w/N55 twin scroll there, or the newest 335iS twin scroll there as well.

the lack of 6MT cars there were meh too haha.. I actually put that down as a thumbs down in their ending survey.

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the 5 series cars were all 535's
there was ONE 550... my buddy and I where standing beside the 550 when we arrived at the 5 series station... that was the only 5 series i drove...
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oh, ok, that explains it, they had one of the 5 series pulled off the side.
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Their was definitely a 550i there, too bad I missed out on it It would've been beastly I'm sure and it's too bad they don't really let you push the car hard and experience just how good it is, not talking about turning DSC/DTC off and racing but you know hahaha since they were starring at me after every run like "Once you lose control, I'm going to beat the shit outta you" glare

I agree! They should've brought over the new Z4 35iS and the new 335iS, they would've been hella fun, hell they should've brought a E92 M3 as well just for kicks
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Yup, there was a 550i. I like the new cabin layout of the 5 series. It looks great. The 5 series interior feels more compact(which I like) for a car of its size. I love the new look too (F10). Styling cues from the E90-E92s which makes it look much more sporty. Thumbs up from me. As for the 135i w/M package, I felt that the interior was really cheap but the performance and compact size of the car made up for it. The Montego blue colour of the 135i looked great too! Overall the event did a decent job in "educating" us the consumers about the cars.
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The F10's will outsell the F01/02 simply because it looks like a 7 series, has almost all of the available technology for a smaller price tag. Integral steering is a new option which includes active steering from earlier models. I will always hate the new style BMW electronic shifters. Lol. Nay, hate em.
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The 335i were the newer twin scroll ones, thats what the instructor told us.
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the DSG like tranny was damn awesome. Don't need MT no more.

the 4WS feels just like my Galant ROFL.
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The 335i were the newer twin scroll ones, thats what the instructor told us.
I stand corrected. now that I remember it the newer ones with twin scroll also have LED for the angel halos.
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Fun event!

I'm gonna have to go against the grain though and say that the 135i really disappointed in the handling department. Plenty good for daily driving (and I suppose this is strictly what I'd own one for anyway), but to take it through autocross seems like it would be a nightmare. For lack of a better word, the handling felt incredibly sloppy and the thick M steering wheel that felt so amazing to grasp while stationary or driving in a straight line, felt like wrestling with a fat chick when navigating the slalom.

I was pretty happy to get back in my car afterwards.

....until I hit the highway onramp and stepped on the gas to realize nothing was happening. I think I would really enjoy a 135i for a daily driver. I liked the DCT enough that I could probably live with it if someone held a gun to my head, and the power and torque is - for me - out of this world.
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